Grades v. Celtics 01/19

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Bricklayer

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Man, blew it in the end. ;)

Artest ( A- ) -- first the hair...oh my. Either a stroke of unifying brilliance ala all those dumb college teams shaving their heads or whatnot, or the final nail in the coffin of any attempts to get value for him in a trade. Either way, shaking things up. Early defensive intensity and poking balls away, not so much offense. Began to give us a lift on the boards in the second quarter, and after half was getting it done on offense as well. Combined with Kevin to pull thi sout, but while Kevin scored a lot of points tonight on various breakdowns in the Boston defense, but it was a pretty one dimensional effort. Ron on the other hand looked smooth and comfrotable all night in the new do, and did most whatever he wanted to against the Celtics' kiddie corps.
Reef ( D- ) -- bad game for Reef. Started off really struggling against the young Boston bigs, who repeatedly challengted and blocked his shots. Continued to struggle after half, and was removed early in the third. Had a moment here or there, but generally looked old and worn down on both sides of the ball today and watched the bulk of this one from the bench.
Miller ( B ) -- Solid game in the way of the old Brad Miller "solid" games. In other words helped by hitting jumpers, and running the offense -- in particular hitting Kevin for 3-4 easy hoops. On the other hand like his old "solid" games, did not reboudn and got worked over on defense. Nonetheless, posed a problem for the Xeltics, when they weren't scoring over him at will, and was the third of our three Kings to give us a game tonight. And three is more than enough when you are playign a crew as bad as the Celtics.
Martin ( A- ) -- Scored a lot of points, which is what he's supposed to do, and along with Ron carried the Kings tonight. He even had a couple he had to work for, as the Cs left him open on cuts, leakouts, on give and gos, you name it. But mixed in with all the freebies were a few nice takes, once along the baseline for a big slam, once recovering and converting a bad alley oop from Brad, and a couple of his little running one handers with people (if Gerald Green counts as a "people") in his face. Was missing his jumpers early, and never really did get much from outside. But did not need to. Disappeared in the 3rd, but showed back up in the early 4th and was the biggest component of our mighty 34 pt 4th quarter drubbing of the Beanie Babies (just made that up -- god I'm good. :) ).
Bibby ( D+ ) -- got off to an ok start, looked good on some of his shots, shaky on others. But was being generally outplayed by Delonte West. And then just disappeared. I mean as in almost completely. Just not involved when he was out there. Was not always out there. And wrapped up with a forgettable 11pt 4reb 4ast evening.
Salmons ( B- ) -- in the first half had most of his good moments and was able to post up 6'1" Rajon Rondo at will with the 6" height advantage. Made a real nifty internal post pass to Justin Williams that was not rewarded when Williams dunk attempt got blocked. Returned in the third on a questionable substitution for Ron Artest (who was largely carrying us) and got a lot of minutes in various longer/defensive minded lineups from there on out. Did not do much in them besides be long, and had a few ballhandling misadventures.
Corliss ( C ) -- in the first half picked up fouls against a scrub named Leon Powe, had one nice block in transition, otherwise struggled. Got back in in the mid third wiht Reef having his own issues and immediately helped with a couple of hoops (the first of the lucky miss so bad it goes off the backboard and in variety).
Douby ( C- ) -- applied a little ball pressure in his first half minutes, did little else. These flat nothing efforts are so hard to grade, especially from guys who may or may not have real NBA game. Did nothing...but did nothing wrong. Lost hsi second half minutes to Cisco.
Williams ( B ) -- active in his first half stint giving you what you would hope/.expect. challenge shots, rebounded, had a finih at the rim. Also blew a FT, committed an offensive foul on the over the back call, got a dunk blocked. And got into foul trouble on rookie mistakes. Still a nice energetic effort off the bench. Not spectacular, but the sort of effort you need froma bench big. Energy. Not terribly effective after half.
Garcia ( B- ) -- gott Mussed into the game for his first minutes to start the 4th quarter with us down 5. And then in Muss fashion he ends up playing the entire quarter. But its not Cisco's fault Muss and Doc were having a tankoff to see who could make the more bizarre 4th quarter suibtitutions. So Cisco stayed, and contributed to our general length/defensive focus in the 4th as we slowed the mighty Celtics offensive machine just enough to eke ouot a victory int eh last 2 minutes. Also hit a layup off off the ball movement in the late 4th -- the Celtics are so ridiculously clueless and disorganized that they gave those up all night.

Muss ( B ) -- Well, that was fundamentally unimpressive. Ron hairdo gambit aside. And of coruse his hairdo inspired nobdy as far as could be told. So much for the rally around the stupid **** with the funny hair theory. Oh well, maybe if our guys are deluded enough to think beating Boston means something, they will draw a connection between Ron's hair and victory, adn we will be off and running. So against the 12-25 Boston Celtics, with the owrst home record in the league, missing their 2 best players, starting and playing an entire game with maybe not a single 25+ yr odl NBA vet, we trailed after the first quarter, trailed at halftime, trailed after three. We got them in the end thought. Woot and all that. Some interesting little side notes\. KT is decisevely completely gone from the rotation now. Unfortuantely with him goen so is our rebounding -- we are sad. N o, scratch that. Not sad, pathetic. We got ourtrebounded tongiht by 6 and I was thinking "not bad". And that wiht ron giving us his best reboudning game in months. We tried a variety of defesnive type grouping tongiht, and its funny how cutting KT out of the rotationa dn limiting Reef's minutes made that seem more possible. So We had ron, and Salmons, and Willaims and Cisco out there in various combinations going for a longer, peskier look. Of course were were peskying the remnants of the Boston Celtics, and still getting lit up by their PF and PG, but it was interesting to see us for the first time in a long time actualy have a "flavor" to some of our lineups other than "leftover stew". There were a few questionable rotation decisions tongiht, as per Muss's usual: Taking out Ron and inserting Salmons in the late third. Sending Martin to the bench even for a few minutes in the mid 4th. Dragging Cisco out of nowhere and throwing him on the court to start the 4th quarter of a close game after not having played a second to that point -- a Muss random special there that worked ok). And in the end we barely pulled this out against a truly awful opponent. But pull it out we did with that oh so veteran presence of ours vs. their kids. And our big three of Ron, Kevin, Bard trumped theirs of West, Jefferson and Gomes. Yay.

Doc Rivers -- hard to tell whetehr his late substitutionswere just incompetent or actual thrwoing of the game. Either way...thx? Or not thx? Oh well -- just felt the Celtics might have beaten us with a couple of seemingly obvious changes in coahcing strategy. Of course, that's why they are the Celtics, and we are the mighty, immortal, vanquishers fot eh 4-14 at home team. Grrr.
 
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Unlike a lot of you, I'm relieved we got a win. I will NEVER cheer for a loss. I'd rather be competitive on the court instead of the lottery.

Weak sauce, guys. I know you mean well, but giving up on the season with more than half of it to go is questionable fan support, and that's putting it mildly.

A's all around. Nice bomb by Miller to Martin for the game clinching 3 point play.
 
Unlike a lot of you, I'm relieved we got a win. I will NEVER cheer for a loss. I'd rather be competitive on the court instead of the lottery.

Weak sauce, guys. I know you mean well, but giving up on the season with more than half of it to go is questionable fan support, and that's putting it mildly.

A's all around. Nice bomb by Miller to Martin for the game clinching 3 point play.

I wont cheer a loss either, i would take a win over a loss anyday, and i hope the kings do win 7 in a row, so jerry gets a mohawk :p
 
I don't root for or cheer a loss. I am rooting for a high lottery pick. A few wins against teams as crappy as we are, does not get huge cheers from me. yay!
 
Unlike a lot of you, I'm relieved we got a win. I will NEVER cheer for a loss. I'd rather be competitive on the court instead of the lottery.

Weak sauce, guys. I know you mean well, but giving up on the season with more than half of it to go is questionable fan support, and that's putting it mildly.

A's all around. Nice bomb by Miller to Martin for the game clinching 3 point play.

I have always been a realist and when i see something that stinks i will point it out. And we stink. With half of the seaons left i don't know how could we win a 1/4 of those games left with out a big trade. And if we do make a trade to win now it would only be a bandaid to something that needs to be rebuilt.

But anyway the more we lose, the more i think it will force the GM to make a move to rebuild, to redo this so call team.
 
I have always been a realist and when i see something that stinks i will point it out. And we stink. With half of the seaons left i don't know how could we win a 1/4 of those games left with out a big trade. And if we do make a trade to win now it would only be a bandaid to something that needs to be rebuilt.

But anyway the more we lose, the more i think it will force the GM to make a move to rebuild, to redo this so call team.

If our record so far has not proved to them that we need major changes then we are in deeper trouble than we realize.

I think that we ALL agree that we need a good draft pick, trades, a free agent signings to get better. It is fairly obvious to most that it is time to start over. I agree with that. What I do not agree with is being happy with a loss and upset with a win. We are bad enough and will lose enough games without wanting us to lose games that we should win.
 
Unlike a lot of you, I'm relieved we got a win. I will NEVER cheer for a loss. I'd rather be competitive on the court instead of the lottery.

Weak sauce, guys. I know you mean well, but giving up on the season with more than half of it to go is questionable fan support, and that's putting it mildly.

A's all around. Nice bomb by Miller to Martin for the game clinching 3 point play.

No weak sauce is lacking either:

a) courage; or
b) vision; or
c) acumen

or all of the above. If we clone the Kings, one version stumbles on home to a 37-40 win season and the draft pick you get for that; the other free falls to 25 wins and the pick you get for that, given the talent at the top of this draft the 2nd Kings version can salve its "weaksauce" wounded little ego by yelling out "who's weaksauce now" while kicking the feeble mediocre shell of the first squad in the head again and again in front of the half filled old Arco barn until they flee for greener pastures down in Anaheim.

Version 2 is a superstar powered Kings squad that wins 500 regular season games over the next 10 years and makes the playoffs annually after they mature. Vesion 1 is...a mystery. Which is weaksauce?

I am just watching now. Too confusing to actually cheer the other team, but for the sake of my own I really should be.
 
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I think the grades really reflect how bad the Celts are right now.

We are bad in the west but not the worst in the entire NBA... I put us about #5 worst team right now.
 
F, everyone gets an F. we needed to lose to this team coz they're ahead of us in the draft race. I want to win this season too, but I only want our wins to come vs the lakers.
 
If our record so far has not proved to them that we need major changes then we are in deeper trouble than we realize.

I think that we ALL agree that we need a good draft pick, trades, a free agent signings to get better. It is fairly obvious to most that it is time to start over. I agree with that. What I do not agree with is being happy with a loss and upset with a win. We are bad enough and will lose enough games without wanting us to lose games that we should win.

I want to win too, really. But we need to lose to certain teams. beat the spurs, mavs, LAKERS, pistons. lose to the 76ers, grizz, celts, trailblazers, etc...
 
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If I'm not mistaken, Williams only played 3 minutes in the second half, which isn't much time to impress. It's going to take him a (long) while to cut down on the mistakes, but I'll take 5 rebounds in 8 minutes every night.
 
The great thing about this is we all want the Kings to succeed. How they do it creates all of the friendly discussions.

I just remember how bad it was from 1985 to 1998... the 25 win seasons, Ralph Sampson with that pathetic look on his face at the end of the bench collecting a paycheck, squads with guys like Randy Allen, Jim Les and Mike Peplowski on it, the Dick Motta era, and the list goes on.

I'm in no hurry to see this team go back into a mid 1980's funk, even if it would be for just one season. I'm a competitor. I want to win all the time. With that said, do I want Greg Oden in purple and white? Of course! But putting one of these :D icons in my posts after losses and keeping track of the loss column in hopes of getting more ping pong balls in the hopper THEN having to keep my fingers crossed in HOPES of getting the top pick isn't gonna happen.

If it happens, so be it. My passion for purple will never change. But I'm not going to throw a party after every loss.
 
This would've been a real bad loss. The Celtics have a mess of injuries, a moron coach and they're the 3rd worst team in the NBA record-wise. Losing to these guys, with the talent we have on the roster, would've been a real blow to the already strained teamwide mindstate. At least now they know they can beat someone. Tomorrow they either rise to the challenge, or come back down to earth.
 
Wow, a teamwide 2.55 GPA for a close, come-from-behind win over an injury-riddled team which had lost 10 of its last 12 games, and 9 of its last 10 home games.

Either Brick is going soft on us, or the Kings have broken his grading curve.
 
A decidedly unimpressive game, no matter which side declared victory. Two bad teams going at it, albeit with a couple of nice performances on the floor. Someone had to win - the Kings managed to do it. We'll see if this leads to some other W's in the near future, but I rather expect another string of L's.
 
I like the fact Justin Williams is getting some playing time. I honestly think the kid just might have potential - although I cannot say I was impressed with his free throw shooting. Then again, he seems to fit right in with that, too.

:p
 
Well, like many (most?) guys who block over 2 shots a game, his FT% has never been great, around 60%. That he has hit 0% in the NBA (0-2) may have been nerves, or just back luck, but I expect it to be back up to the Okafor/Howard/Biedrins/Milicic level within a few more games.
 
I was kidding, fnordius... You know, a gentle jest about how poorly our team has been doing recently from the stripe?

;)
 
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