[Grades] Grades v. Bucks 3/5/2014

What should be done with Isaiah after his terrible incident?

  • Trade him!

    Votes: 4 11.8%
  • Waive him!

    Votes: 4 11.8%
  • Jail him!

    Votes: 7 20.6%
  • Make him do public service

    Votes: 8 23.5%
  • Public shaming

    Votes: 7 20.6%
  • Ground him

    Votes: 8 23.5%
  • Feed him to the fishes

    Votes: 6 17.6%
  • Take him out in a field and shoot him

    Votes: 7 20.6%
  • Trade him again!

    Votes: 7 20.6%
  • All of the Above

    Votes: 17 50.0%

  • Total voters
    34
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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Pretty sure that's how it works anyway. :p

Ok, well, before IT flashed his grillz and humiliated himself, his team, his franchise, and likely offended the all mighty(s), this was a decent little game that we controlled throughout. Late in a long losing season, against the drabbest opponent in the NBA, people tune out I guess, but there were things to see. The largest thing was just a certain emerging professionalism amongst the team. And that's got nothing to do with of course wildly out of control thugs like I.T., its just that we came to play, guys did what they had to do to win. There were a couple of selfish stretches for a couple of players (Rudy and IT principally). But it never spread. And those guys had good stretches too. We just sort of professionally came out and did what had to be done.

On the court points of interest were us sort of embracing ITs true nature and running long stretches of offense with Gay and Cuz as initiators and IT as the finisher/SG. Ray Mac put on a shooting display for mom and dad in the stands. Reggie Evans continues to be used as a postup goto guy off the bench, making Carl Landry's role even more dubious when he returns. And for some unknown reason Coach Malone refuses to take his starters off the floor even in blowouts, which is dubious, especially when the game is getting chippy, Joey Crawford is on the floor, and your franchise center gets suspended automatically for every tech he picks up from now on. But on that front Cuz was good for a third straight game, which is really beginning to tell you something. Control was within his reach it appears. Especially when your agent probably gives you a call after the recent blowup and says "you want to be on Team USA? You want to be on the All NBA teams?".

Altogether it equaled Kings win in a blowout, and aside from being deeply personally offended and disappointed in Isaiah, maybe the only real disappointment is that Jerry Reynolds did not even attempt to say Antetokounmpo. Not even once! Pfft! Coward. I've been waiting all season to hear that too.

Your Consoritum Graders tonight:
Bricklayer
Bajaden
Capt. Factorial
Henkel


Boxscore

Stats: 35min 22pts (8-116, 0-5, 6-6) 8reb 6ast 2stl 0blk 5TO
Gay ( A- ) -- actually struggled to establish his own offense in this one, but I thought his early response was a key to getting us off to a good start. Made a number of excellent early passes setting up JT, Ben, adding an alley oop to Cousins. And it just set a tone despite him sitting down for the first time with only 2pts. retunred int eh second looking more for his own offense. Fortunately he was hot tonight, because I actually rather preferred his early work. When he came back he forced some tough shots, sort of willing his way into a groove but often ignoring teammates while he did, and capped things with a turnover dribbling into traffic to close the half. In the third you got a little of both world's as he began to pour it on with across the board contributions. Began the third with another assist to Isaiah...that somehow the scorers did not count as an assist. But he wasn't back into first quarter mode, was still offensively aggressive, and a few minutes later dribbled right into a double team while ignoring Cuz and basically forced a turnover just by stubbornness. Most of his turnovers this game were that way. So very next possession he makes amends on the break with a nice pass to Cuz for a dunk. He and JT were all over the glass at this point as well, and he closed the 3rd with a flourish, first running the 1-4 flat at the end of the third and hitting it, and then racing downcourt fullcourt to beat the buzzer with another swooping shot. there were fluxuations in this, the forcing and resulting turnovers were not perfect. But he hit a lot of those forces, got us off to a great start with the early passing, and filled up all corners of the statsheet while dominating his matchup. Not a perfect game, but a very good one. --Brick

Stats: 24min 8pts (4-9, 0-0, 0-0) 13reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 0TO
Thompson ( B+ ) -- nice little roleplayer game as once again our new Cuz/JT/Evans trio took care of all the dirty work inside. Spent the early game just hanging around the hoop taking passes and getting lots of cleanups as the Bucks worried about everybody but him, and he punished them for it with 8 first quarter points. That would be it for the scoring though as he blew an assist for Cuz early in the third when he blew two layups after Cuz pushed the ball fullcourt and slipped it to him right under the rim. Continued to contribute in other areas though, playing some good defense to block Pachulia inside a few minutes later, and while few of them were particularly impressive, rapidly piled up boards in the third. That lack of impressiveness is what holds me back here from going even higher on this grade. It didn't feel like he was doing anything special. But on the other hand he was just flat getting it done as a support player, and those solid nearly across the board contributions by half a dozen guys are how this turned into a blowout.--Brick

Stats: 31min 21pts (7-14, 0-0, 7-9) 10reb 5ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Cousins ( B- ) -- Cousins started the game in a severe funk. He looked disinterested to me, going through the motions. And while the official scorers were terrible (it took them until the fourth quarter to get Cousins' point total correct!) we can't blame them for Cuz starting the game 1-6. In the first half he was practically invisible in terms of his own offense, scoring 5 total points (3 from the line), but on the bright side he was distributing the ball really well. He racked up five assists, three on kick-outs to the perimeter and two on great finds in the lane to McCallum - one from the post hitting Ray on a solid cut and the other a beautiful knifing pass through the defense from the FT line to find Ray at the rim. Unfortunately, Cuz's passing dried up in the second half. After a good dish to JT that was not converted at the rim, Cousins started looking for his own in the third quarter, and he found it. He went 6-7 in the second half (5-5 in the third, including a great drive with basically a Eurostep through the lane and and big flush on the break) to be a big part of putting the Bucks out of their misery and making sure that if the official scorers shorted us on a basket or two it didn't matter. On the boards, he just basically abused Zaza Pachulia, outrebounding him 10-1. So that's the good. The bad tonight was the defense. The effort just wasn't there throughout the game, and the results show it. He allowed 17 points on 9 shots, many of them poorly contested jumpers, and the only shot that DIDN'T fall on the night was on a play where he let Zaza just drive around him and he simply missed at the rim. There was a notable play in the second quarter when he was under the rim and somehow didn't manage to move in to close out a Brandon Knight drive that was right directly in front of him. He complained to the official that he was being held, but I rewound the DVR and it was a complete face-saving maneuver - there was no hold. Then, in the fourth he went for an ill-advised steal on Jeff Adrien, allowing him to get to the rim for the and-1 (and forcing Reggie Evans to pick up his fifth foul). The numbers look good, but the offense was really only half there at any given point in the game (passing in the first half, scoring in the second) and the defense was miserable. So I can't give out too good of a grade despite the 21/10/5 line. --Capt.

Stats: 26min 4pts (2-5, 0-0, 0-0) 2reb 1ast 0stl 1blk 0TO
McLemore ( D+ ) -- I really want to write something nice about McLemore, but facts are facts, and there just isn't much to say. The one thing he did do well at times, he didn't do consistently all night long. The four points in 26 minutes I can live with. Truth is, he didn't get his number called much. He took five shots making two. He didn't get to the line, but you do need the ball to do that. It was mostly the Cousins, Gay, and IT show, and whatever shots were left over, seemed to go to McCallum, and amazingly, Reggie Evans. Both of whom were quite successful. Reggie, a renown poor freethrow shooter, was even making those. Most of my problems with Ben came in the first half. He started by weakly getting caught in a screen and allowing Wolters to waltz to the basket and score. At the other end, Ben cut to the basket and scored on a nice pass from Gay, who by the way, looked more like a PG than anyone else on the team. After scoring, I'm not quite sure what happened to Ben's brain, but he stood there watching the action standing near the right baseline. Wolters noticed, and tippy toed behind him to the basket and scored with no defender in sight, including Ben, who was supposed to be guarding him. That brought a time out from Malone. After missing a 10 foot jumper, Ben did have a nice moment when he chased down the ball and blocked a shot. But then, at the other end, he lazily went under a screen and allowed O.J. Mayo to hit an uncontested three. Except for about 58 seconds at the end of the half, that was it for McLemore in the half. He must have gotten an ear full at halftime, because he was glued to his man for the majority of his time on the floor. He did allow another three by Mayo coming off a screen, but he at least tried to fight through it. His only other basket came with about 52 seconds left in the game, at which point the game was already over. --Baja

Stats: 33min 26pts (10-17, 4-7, 4-4) 3reb 6ast 4stl 0blk 2TO
Thomas ( A- ) -- Registered the first points of the game on consecutive illegal defense violations by the Bucks. Had the deep shot going tonight as he knocked down his first attempt off of a nice find by Cousins. On the other end he was having a tough time matching up with Knight. As a large guard for the one spot he was able to exploit his obvious physical advantages through out this one. picked up two quick fouls in a effort to keep Knight out of the lane. Responded on the offensive side almost immediately with back to back baskets. Even with the limited action due to foul trouble had a easy nine points, which is what happens when Isaiah has his shot dialed in. Got back in mid way through the second and outside of a pull up three didn't do much with these minutes. Knight was going off a bit as well. To be fair during this stretch he got a couple of easy baskets off of good ball movement rather than any failing on Isaiah part and his final score of the half came against McLemore with Thomas on the bench for the final minute of the quarter in order to avoid a third foul. Still at the half this was a rather even battle. Managed the first points of the second half as well by knocking down the three off of a nice pass by Gay. Then got to work with Cousins finding him repeated off of penetrate and a couple of high screens. Definitely a factor in getting Cousins rolling after the half . Missed a couple of outside shots and had a poor lob to Gay but finished out a very good offensive quarter with that pretty floater of his and another impressive move to the basket for the easy score. Knight was still getting his as the defensive effort on Isaiah part seemed to wain with the inevitability of this one becoming apparent. For some reason didn't get a break as he played on through for most of the fourth. The game was out of reach and the Bucks had the look of a team that's all to familiar with nights like this. Played well during this stretch as both a play maker and scorer. Ended his night on what I believe is his first ejection as he kept talking at the official after picking up his first instigating a little scrum with Middleton. A easy 25 points and a great job running the team in the second half. Still his opposition had a equally big night. Not all of that can be put onto Thomas and his overall impact was a major factor in a easy win.--Henkel
 
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Bench

Stats: 31min 15pts (7-10, 1-2, 0-0) 4reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
McCallum ( A ) -- Looking more and more comfortable out there, especially shooting the ball. In the early going knocked down a couple of long jumpers with the shot clock running down. Committed his only note worthy mistake of the night by forcing the action and putting up a ugly runner. From that point on was initiating the offense, something he could do at all a month ago, and then working off the ball. Cousins found him a couple times as he cut right to the basket with the big guy drawing a lot of attention. Did most of his damage in the first half getting into double figures. Not as explosive in the second half but still looked solid on both ends. Capped it off with a step back jumper that looked pretty darn natural now that he's got some confidence in his shot. He's got some work to do on his body that will have to wait until the offseason, but he's making progress and starting to prove himself worthy of the opportunity that's been given to him. --Henkel

Stats: 13min 6pts (2-5, 0-1, 2-2) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Acy ( F ) -- You know those illusions where you take two circles that are the same size, but you surround one with small circles and you surround the other one with large circles and then the two center circles don't look the same size anymore? Well, ever since Reggie Evans showed up, Quincy Acy's hustle just doesn't look so good to me anymore. And frankly, tonight he was pretty terrible. He played some pretty nice D from about the 0:15 mark to the 0:03 mark of the fourth quarter, but the game was kind of over at that point. Outside of that, he did nothing positive worth mentioning. No rebounds, jacked an ill-advised three in the fourth, defense certainly was not very good, especially when he let Jeff Adrien take him to the hole...you know what? We won, it's late, I don't need to spend any more time on grading a lousy outing. --Capt.

Stats: 13min 2pts (1-2, 0-0, 0-1) 1reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Williams ( D ) -- and the amazing disappearing DWill act continues. Just 4 games ago, with Cuz out DWill had a refreshing breakout game. Ever since Cuz has come back he's completely ghosted as our roleplayers have taken over as the reserves of consequence, and DWill just has accomplished nothing. He at least looked more aggressive early, but was effectively smothered by the Bucks' length and did not accomplish anything at all in the game until he finally got a +1 (missed the FT) in the early 4th. And that was it. Of course the larger issue is he still isn't doing much else in the other aspects of the game either. This is kind of a gentleman's D. He did nothing for us, but did not do much to really damage us. He just has gone poof and blinked out of existence or relevance here these last three games. --Brick

Stats: 27min 13pts (3-7, 0-0, 7-10) 5reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Evans ( B+ ) -- and so the hyperproductive beat goes on with Reggie, and now its moving in unexpected ways that are going to make Carl Landry taking his minutes highly highly dubious. I am not sure how much of this was the plan, but only a couple of days after Malone said that they ran no plays for him (same thing every coach he has ever had has said) Ray McCallum seemed to be confusing him wih DeMarcus Cousins in his first stint, and feeding him down low in the post like a goto guy. And here's the thing: he was responding. Bumbled into a post move early in the 2nd after McCallum surprised him with a dumpoff pass. And then to the line as again McCallum fed him treating him like Cousins on the pick and roll. I'm surprised Reggie even still remembered how to run a P&R from his college days. It was shades of that confusion IT always had about Hayes, except in this case, Reggie continues to look competent in there against these teams with skinny frontlines that can't keep him from muscling in there. In the game thread I announced my confusion as by halftime he had 8pts, but only 1 reb, asnd he was even hitting his FTs. Likely a first time in his career he's ever had a scoring to rebounding ration like that. And the middling rebounding work is why this grade is held back a bit. But after half he set about making up for it after he returned to the game with Cousins in foul trouble in the third. Quickly got an offensive board and follow finish and was more physical after half, in fact physical enough that he got under the skin of Ilyasova by the end of this one and there was finally a reaction as Ersan pushed him to the floor. Finally the physical impish provocateur reared his pointed headed noggin, after we had him pretending to be Carl Landry out there in the first half. Per36 Reggie is averaging a cool 12.7pts 14.5reb 1.8stl on .600 shooting since arriving.--Brick

Stats: 7min 0pts (0-1, 0-0, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 0TO
Johnson ( INC ) -- Johnson only played 7 minutes, and for the most part, you wouldn't have known he was in the game. He did take on shot and missed. Not enough time to grade. --Baja
 
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He got his money's worth, all right: Thomas is only making 884K this season. Two technicals are, essentially, a whole game check for him; he basically played pro bono tonight. :eek:
 
A question that has been rearing its head probably has to be asked at this point. Is Ray doing to Ben what Isaiah did to Jimmer (i.e. outplay his more recognisable rookie team mate)?

In a handful of games where has received meaningful minutes, Ray McCallum has shown more than Ben McLemore has for the entire season.
 
A question that has been rearing its head probably has to be asked at this point. Is Ray doing to Ben what Isaiah did to Jimmer (i.e. outplay his more recognisable rookie team mate)?

In a handful of games where has received meaningful minutes, Ray McCallum has shown more than Ben McLemore has for the entire season.

Maybe. 4 years of college basketball for Ray vs. 1 year at KU for Ben - says a lot.
 
A question that has been rearing its head probably has to be asked at this point. Is Ray doing to Ben what Isaiah did to Jimmer (i.e. outplay his more recognisable rookie team mate)?

In a handful of games where has received meaningful minutes, Ray McCallum has shown more than Ben McLemore has for the entire season.

yeah, I've been pondering that myself. Not predicting McCallum becomes anything at the level of IT of course, but the dynamic is feeling similar. Get your highly touted lottery pick and keep banging your head throwing him out there because he is your highly touted lottery pick, but as the year wears on finally just gets passed up by his own 2nd round rnd pick who just takes to the league better.
 
We def settle into a groove when McCallum is manning the SG position. It's not that he's playing super outstanding or anything (although, he was great tonight), but he's bringing a more steady presence than we've had all year. 1st half comes immediately to mind when he scored cutting to the rim from Cuz and scored on a kick-out 3 from Cuz. With how many dynamic offensive players we have in the line-up, the simple threat of a SG being able to make those sort of plays is huge. It just opens up the lane and means less double-teams in the post for Cuz. Not to mention his D is leaps and bounds above where Ben is at currently.


He and Reggie Evans have been 2 bright-spots to watch the last week.
 
One reason I like Ray among many reasons is that, unlike IT and Tyreke, the team does not have to adjust to him. He is easy to play with and guys can focus on their own game.

Exactly. This is what the Pizza Fanboys don't seem to get.

From what I've seen so far. Ray could be an excellent guard in this league. Very curious to see where he's at at the end of next year.
 
A question that has been rearing its head probably has to be asked at this point. Is Ray doing to Ben what Isaiah did to Jimmer (i.e. outplay his more recognisable rookie team mate)?

In a handful of games where has received meaningful minutes, Ray McCallum has shown more than Ben McLemore has for the entire season.

Well one glaring difference is that Jimmer would never get to play 30 minutes shooting 1-9 or something along those lines. No wait, Jimmer would never get 30 minutes period.
 
What happened with IT tonight that was so blasphemous? Missed the game.

He got thrown out of the game.

It was awful. I had to cover granny's eyes. Send the kids up to bed. Wash the dog's ears out with soap. Terrifying scene.

Time for some culture change! :p
 
#Big Mac is a stud showed he can play with and without the ball and the guy really defends what a steal to get him in the 2nd round
#IT great game on offence
#Rudy Gay just dominated hardcore
#Acy/Reggie "ain't nothing but a gangstar party"
#Cuz played better in the 2nd half and just dominated with pure talent
#Ben.........yawn
#JT with maybe his best two way game of the season for sure one of his better all around games
#Felt really good to completely stomp a team out
#Marcus Thornton's Sacramento ghost has taken complete possession of Derrick Williams body
 
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"That is not cool at all," Thomas said. "I am going to talk to the NBA about that. I don't have a reputation for getting technicals. I don't say anything disrespectful to anybody and for them to hit me with two straight technicals is just not cool at all. I am going to talk to the NBA about it and try to get that back because I've got two kids.

:D:D:D
 
It's awfully early to be thinking this but Ray's play in these few games may be the salvation for Ben for one more year. He shows signs of being able to usefully back up both IT and Ben. So next year Ben could continue to start. If he is his usual bad, he gets less minutes - as he is doing now. If we don't have this options then I see Ben some place else, like on the bench or on another team.
 
Impressed that the Kings finally came out and blew out a crappy team instead of playing to their level and making it close or even losing

Ray McCallum, we might have something here, smart kid, great basketball instincts, great athleticism, and he has a decent shooting touch and his defense is outstanding for a rookie
 
Why do I like Ray? He's on a ZERO turnover streak now. 60 min and counting. Gay always gets his 4-5 turns, and I think that is one thing he can work on this Summer.

Isn't it amazing what an improved Ray and Evans can do? It's like a completely different team out there.
 
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"That is not cool at all," Thomas said. "I am going to talk to the NBA about that. I don't have a reputation for getting technicals. I don't say anything disrespectful to anybody and for them to hit me with two straight technicals is just not cool at all. I am going to talk to the NBA about it and try to get that back because I've got two kids.

:D:D:D

Good god Isaiah. Someone please tell him how he sounds! Playing the poor me card? Seriously? This guy doesn't really have tact. Maybe THAT'S why he got the technicals.
 
I know a lot of people on here are against small ball but I really think the double PG can work. It's worked great in Phoenix before Bledsoe went down and the Cavs have had there best run of the season playing Jack at PG as a starter and Irving at SG and also last few years in Denver with Lawson and Miller. Ben is not capable at all atm being a SG on either end and Ray is mentally and physically ready to play both positions.

I'm all for doing the double PG thing we got good size at every other position until we have a capable SG.
 
It will be interesting to see what the league does. I don't remember; was a foul called or was it considered a flop?
Called a foul but that has to be a suspension if Cousins got one, Ersan threw like two/three short punches
 
Called a foul but that has to be a suspension if Cousins got one, Ersan threw like two/three short punches

Evans was pinching his skin really hard with his right and also possibly his left hand. A guy's not gonna react with that instant vitriol for no reason. Like or not, we have a dirty player. I'm guessing most will like.
 
lol, Reggie Evans is the kind of player that you hate when he's on the other team but love him when he's on your team. I remember I couldn't stand the guy back when he was on Seattle. In fact I hated that whole team, haha.

Come to think of it, we have a lot of unlikeable players on our roster, IT probably pisses people off because he's so little, Cousins, Acy, Evans
 
Evans was pinching his skin really hard with his right and also possibly his left hand. A guy's not gonna react with that instant vitriol for no reason. Like or not, we have a dirty player. I'm guessing most will like.

That's very similar to Cousins striking Beverley. No one would react with such vitriol for no reason.
 
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