Grades v. 76ers 02/26

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Bricklayer

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Williamson ( A- ) -- Tonight our new guys carried our old guys, and first among them was Corliss who got the start at SF and pummeled Kyle Korver in the post all night long. Really our best player in the starting lineup tongiht -- its a homecoming game for him, and players often have big games in their first game back. Earns his minus for making a dumb dumb foul to foul out of the game with 8 seconds to go, fouling Andre Igoudala on a three point attempt to give the rook 3 FTs to try to tie it (he choked one of them as we repeatedly dodged Philly bullets in the last minute).
Songaila ( C ) -- Just one game after seeming to really make a case for himself as our starting PF, Darius came out and had a quiet night and ended up watching most of it from the bench as Kenny Thomas made an impressive debut. Of course the motivations were different -- Thomas had to be super-amped in his debut in front of his old team, while Darius and the rest of the main guns still looked depressed over Webber being in an opposing uniform. But still a bit disappointing to go from 23 & 12 to 4 & 5 in the space of one game.
Miller ( C+ ) -- started out active but only sporadically effective. Settled in thereafter, but it was interesting to watch this one because we were far more effective on the glass and on defense when Brad was out of the game and the new guys were in. Whether it was playing against Webber and a big shotblocker in Dalembert, or just our offensive still being disjointed, Brad just looked uncomfortable on that end of the floor and returned to his hesitant-to-shoot ways. Did however make a real difference with his passing late in the game, and gave Mike some welcome help there. With so many new bodies, and none of them passers, its up to those two guys to try to keep the offense rolling forward now.
Mobley ( C ) -- wow, got off to an absolutely horrendous start to this one. I mean, everything that you could do wrong, he was doing. Missing shot after shot, turning the ball over, losing both Iverson and Igoudala on defense, and looked miserable while doing it. But after three quarters of struggling, he finally woke up and you have to give him credit -- made all the clutch plays for us down the stretch. Hit big shots and big FTs. We could easily have lost this one, actually probably should have if Philly hadn't repeatedly blown opportunities. But Mobley was the main guy bailing us out at the end.
Bibby ( C ) -- got off to a really ragged start, and you can see the strain right now on Mike having to try to create everybody's offense and not knowing where everybody is going to be. Looks almost like Iverson out there at times running around, loking, looking, forcing, throwing up off balance stuff. Hard for Mike to play his normal efficient game. A few times seemed to be coming to life, but just never able to sustain. When he was guarding Iverson, got toasted -- one of those nights where A.I. threw up all sorts of junk, but wasn't really our fault as he got into the lane nearly every possession. Quiet down the stretch again as in Dallas -- I really do think that there might be too much strain on Mike right now, and he's getting tired before we reach the end of the game. We're going to have to address that somehow since we need his clutch shooting.
Thomas ( A- ) -- extremely active tonight and really brought his "A" game with active rebounding and athletic drives -- looked like a SF more than a PF. Lot of inspiration -- not only his return to Philly, but also trying to stake out his territory for the PF spot. Counterpunch to Darius's big game in Dallas -- be interesting to see how the competition for the starting PF spot plays out. Did start to miss his shots late, and looked even more undersized out there than I remember him, but an excellent debut.
Evans ( B ) -- decent effort for Mo back in the backup role for which he's probably better suited. Gave us his energy and a big dunk, and provided a nice athletic counter to the groundbound power game of Corliss.
House ( A ) -- it was the night for the new Kings, and while House at this point is almost a greybeard, he joined right in anyway and had perhaps his finest game as a King. Hit three huge three pointers in the 4th for us, and was in there as a combo guard backing up both Mobley and Bibby tonight. Also did probably a better job on A.I. than any other Kings defender.
Skinner ( B ) -- statistically this does not look like much, but came in in the first half and immediately gave us a nice burst of shot blocking, which I suspect we'll have to fine him for since we don't allow any of that chicanery on the Kings. Also bodied up Webb pretty well (sounds odd to say). There were a couple of utterly terrifying moments there where we gave the ball to him and ran our offense through him, but he survived without mishap. No boards, but he was in there after them, just grabbed by other Kings (good job gang rebounding at times tonight).

Adelman ( A- ) -- Man, look at the boxscore and the names there -- only 1 player played tonight remaining from the team two years ago that had our last best chance at a title. Remarkable turnover. Brad and Darius have been here less than 2 years and they are now considered grizzled Kings vets even though neither can remember the great rivalry years with the Lakers. The count on champinship era Kings now is down to three (Bibby, Bobby, Peja) -- brave new world. But Rick took all these guys, threw them out there in all sorts of combinations, and came out with a victory over an equally disjointed Philly team. Was good at recognizing who was hot and who was not tonight, and going to the former. With fewer great players, and almost no established vets familiar with the system, the lack of a comfort zone seemed to make him a little more flexible. Also liked what Rick did at the end of the game -- after we AGAIN allowed an offensive board off a missed FT, he started subbing in Darius alongside Thomas and Miller to try to ensure we got those damn boards off missed FTs. Of course ironically it did not work, and Webber grabbed a big O-board with 2 seconds left and a chance at a hook to tie it, but it was still a good idea. This was not an A game for us, or even really a B game in a lot of ways. We probably should have lost it there at the end where poor rebounding was killing us, and the Sixers had open perimeter looks and numerous free throws to win it. But they didn't convert, and we hung around long enough to steal it on the ironic final play (as an aside am I the only one VERY glad that Iverson did not see Webber standing out there at the three point line on the pay where Igoudala got fouled. You just know he would have loved to have taken that shot, and he was wide open.). Much needed victory, and maybe we can get our tails out from between our legs now. New guys aren't always going to play this well -- homecoming burst for them tonihgt. But then again, hopefully the old guys aren't always going to pay this bad. So onward we go.
 
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Great grades for everbody. Agree with all of them.

I like Adelman's grade the most and he deserved it. Great game to the newcomers as well.

Hey brick, isn't today 2/26, not 11/26? You are 9 monthes ahead of us!! ;)
 
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Bricklayer said:
Williamson ( A- ) -- Tonight our new guys carried our old guys, and first among them was Corliss who got the start at SF and pummeled Kyle Korver in the post all night long. Really our best player in the starting lineup tongiht -- its a homecoming game for him, and players often have big games in their first game back. Earns his minus for making a dumb dumb foul to foul out of the game with 8 seconds to go, fouling Andre Igoudala on a three point attempt to give the rook 3 FTs to try to tie it (he choked one of them as we repeatedly dodged Philly bullets in the last minute).
yeah, those fouls on 3 point shooters bugged me, but then again, its nice to see someone in a Kings uniform put a hand in the face of a shooter for once.
 

Bricklayer

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Bballkingsrock said:
Great grades for everbody. Agree with all of them.

I like Adelman's grade the most and he deserved it. Great game to the newcomers as well.

Hey brick, isn't today 2/26, not 11/26? You are 9 monthes ahead of us!! ;)
oops. :eek:
 
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I definately agree with Mike's. I could really see him struggling to find plays, and the offense overall looked really sloppy at times, even for a win. They need to sort things out now that Webb's gone.

And I hated seeing Webb and Iverson running plays that Webb and Mike used.:(
 
#7
fair grades as always...

great game

i really liked the effort that the new guys put out...and i really thought Eddie made GREAT use of minutes on the floor

but Brick i thought that was Aaron McKie out behind the 3pt line that was open, not Webb...???

GO KINGS!!!
 

VF21

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#8
Team grade: A

It wasn't pretty; it wasn't picture perfect. It WAS, however, the game they NEEDED to win to start the healing.
 
#10
Nice Job Brick ....

House deserves an A+ .... he was not gonna let our FRONT-COURT have a bad night as a whole. I was so proud of him ...

(for lack of a better term) I always root for THE UNDERDOG
 
#13
playing Washington tomorrow should be a pretty darn good entertaining game...

i mentioned before i thought that the Wizards were like a Eastern Conference Sacramento Kings..

should be fun...hopefully we end the game with more points
 
#14
Good grades, great game!

Couldn't understand what was keeping Bibby at bay tonight, didn't think about the fact that he was discombobulated out there with so many new players, trying to run plays. Seemed to relax a LOT in the third though.

So many new things going on, it was hard to take it all in. Seeing Web in white was very weird, and learning the new guys roles/play was consuming also. I just LOVE this game!

Adelman was intense tonight, guess everyone was. But all will calm down and the newbies will fit in nicely, I think. Loved all three out there. They all bring their own offensive skills and ability to play defense, nice to see work in the paint on boards.
 
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I thought Corliss did an excellent job, and in truth, with the offense not really in synch yet b/c of no practice time, probably should have had his number called a bit more often since he had Korver attempting to guard him in the post. Korver was making him pay on the other end in the first half, but after he hit his three threes, didn't make a shot after that.
 
#19
Good grades. I have to say, I was pretty impressed by the effort of the new fellas, especially that of Kenny Thomas. I just thought he brought a variety of abilities to the table tonight that look to be very useful in the future; most notably his quickness and energy. I have yet to declare this trade any type of success, but if some form of positive consistency can be drawn from this performance over the long run, then I begin to feel less betrayed by the swap. A little less, anyway. I don't know if it's been brought up already, but let's play a little game of "What's Wrong With This Picture?":

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050227/capt.pxc10202270123.kings_76ers_pxc102.jpg
 
#20
I would agree for the most part... A tick higher for Nasty, and a tick lower for CAT.

All in all about what I was thinking. I expected a lot less from the trade players so I was pleasently surprised tonight. I don't expect them to play like that everynight but if they do, hell we may have us a great team here.
 
#22
If the new guys continue to play like they did tonite this trade may work out for us. I almost feel bad Philly didn't win this. I felt sorry for Chris seeing him walk off the court with his head hung down at the end of the game. The Kings sort of gathered around him but he just looked dejected. Also did everybody catch that commercial with Dirk ordering the pizzas and clowns for Webber, and Chris answers the door in a kings Jersey. How ironic.
 

HndsmCelt

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Since93 said:
Honestly I am quit worry about Mike's overall performance after the trade. Without Webb, who does he play those pick-and-roll with?
Brad... sets harder picks and shoot a better jumper... but yes I know you were speaking rhetoricaly
 
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Since93 said:
Honestly I am quit worry about Mike's overall performance after the trade. Without Webb, who does he play those pick-and-roll with?
just a tough shooting night... he played agianst the Mavs without Webber getting.. 26 points, 8 assists, 5 rebounds and 3 steals ... tonight he had open looks and missed them, had nothing to do with the pick and role with Webber.. so i think hes gonna be just fine..
 

VF21

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albeitrue said:
Couldn't understand what was keeping Bibby at bay tonight, didn't think about the fact that he was discombobulated out there with so many new players, trying to run plays. Seemed to relax a LOT in the third though.
I honestly don't think it was the new players that had him on edge. It was the old player out there in the new uniform. I think Bibby wasn't playing his usual instinct game; he was focusing too hard on NOT passing to Webber. Those two had a special kind of bond, almost like two-way radio. The urge to pass to Webber coming down the court must have, at times, been tremendous. I really believe that was part of Mike's worry - that he might actually do it.

It's behind him now, and I think it's gonna be fine when Webber comes to Arco for the first time.

I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!
 
#26
I agree VF... I am not to worried about Bibb's performance tonight. I think it was just one of those games. Cat had it also. Will take a few games for everyone to get in sync and then Peja is gonna need to get acclimated (SP?) also.
 

Bricklayer

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Andriod_KiNg said:
just a tough shooting night... he played agianst the Mavs without Webber getting.. 26 points, 8 assists, 5 rebounds and 3 steals ... tonight he had open looks and missed them, had nothing to do with the pick and role with Webber.. so i think hes gonna be just fine..

The problem with that game is agian looked like he ran out of gas late. Right now he's just having to work too hard and carry too much of the load.
 
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Bricklayer said:
The problem with that game is agian looked like he ran out of gas late. Right now he's just having to work too hard and carry too much of the load.
How much of that do you think is the fact Peja is not out there. I wonder if he thinks he has to carry all the weight for outside shots.
 
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VF21 said:
I honestly don't think it was the new players that had him on edge. It was the old player out there in the new uniform. I think Bibby wasn't playing his usual instinct game; he was focusing too hard on NOT passing to Webber.
That is probably the most cogent thought that has been expressed in the thread. If Bibby was not focused on NOT passing the ball to Webber, he should have been. I think you are right, however, and Bibby should be commended for not making that obvious mistake. That shows concentration.

I think the Kings got better with the trade. We shall know by the end of the year.

I'll bet Corliss is thrilled to be out of Philly.
 

Bricklayer

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BigWaxer said:
How much of that do you think is the fact Peja is not out there. I wonder if he thinks he has to carry all the weight for outside shots.
Some of it...but I think the bigger problme right now is the offense is kind of broken and the guy who handled the ball for 50% of the time is abruptly gone. So now Mike is having to sort of run around and improvise and create offesne all over the floor rather than playing on our conventional sets. kind of surprised really -- I had assumed we'd try to have Brad just take over Webb's role and try to keep the same sets. But so far we've looked like a real mess -- maybe just to many new faces and new lineups.
 
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