George Karl on why Seth plays

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its true, he does cover the ball well. Its what earned IT playing time initially here too. He needs to continue to battle and work on his man to man Defense though, coverage is only a part of it.
 
Soooooo..... more minutes for WCS when he's healthy?! :p

On topic:

Seth's defense has been surprising for sure. Way more solid than expected.

He's still a bit inconsistent, but who isn't inconsistent on this team? Pretty rad that he's proving worthy of big league minutes.
 
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Wow he is really pissed with our perimeter defense. I understand part of it is because we don't really have good perimeter defenders who can play big minutes. And it is killing us on a nightly basis. But the way his system allows middle penetration on half the pick and rolls does not really help either.
 
Seth didn't play well at all tonight. But Ben hasn't played well and has been largely invisible for much of the year -- although he did play aggressively tonight -- so I believe one or two poor performances by Seth isn't anything to get worked up about.
 
I feel like this was a really bad game for Seth. He was having troubles with screens, committing poor fouls, and was 0 for us on offense when we actually needed points.

On defense, a lot of it was Collison too. Explains why coach pulled him.

Tetsujin said:
Karl: "I don’t need anymore points, I don’t need anything more than than somebody to cover the damn basketball."

*plays Marco Bellinelli thirty minutes anyways*
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I think he wanted to take out Belinelli, but we needed a lot of offense at the end after our bench put us in a huge hole. Our only real 3pt shooting threat was Marco in the Rondo-Bellinelli-Gay-Acy-Cuz.
 
SLAB said:
That's all well and fine.

I want to know WTF James Anderson plays. Ever. Like for even a second.
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same reason.

people underestimate what complete...cats Ben, Marco and Darren are.

We've got exactly two perimeter players willing to hitch up their shorts and wrestle with somebody, and they are both scrubs.

And Rondo can sometimes be a sneaky pest with his hands, and wades in for boardwork, but doesn't do the hitch up his shorts thing anymore either.
 
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biltalent said:
Yeah its kind of amazing. I guess he thinks that no one on our roster can play perimeter defense so he just plays the guy who can at least get his own shot.
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No that's exactly it.

Seth played scrubby.

Anderson is a scrub.

Ben started great, but when the going gets tough, Ben gets scared.

DC was awful and pissing away the game.

So there you have it, Belinelli and Rondo as the backcourt of desperation. Besides of course the only two experienced winners we have back there. You roll with that if nobody else is going to step up.
 
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Seth didn't play well last night but his effort on defense has been good the last week. You can see his confidence has really risen on the defense end and slumped on the offensive end. Hopefully he gets most of that back because the kid can really shoot.
 
Bricklayer said:
Ben started great, but when the going gets tough, Ben gets scared.
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Wait, hold on... Your grievance with McLemore is what it is, but this is not accurate. McLemore had already been nailed to the bench for, like, five minutes by the time the going got rough last night. It's not even so much that he's scared, as it is that he's kind of the Rain Type 17 of shooting guards.

Or, if you'd rather, I'll appropriate Tony Kornheiser's nickname for Stephen Strassburg: McLemore is kind of our Orchid.
 
Bricklayer said:
No that's exactly it.

Seth played scrubby.

Anderson is a scrub.

Ben started great, but when the going gets tough, Ben gets scared.

DC was awful and pissing away the game.

So there you have it, Belinelli and Rondo as the backcourt of desperation. Besides of course the only two experienced winners we have back there. You roll with that if nobody else is going to step up.
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I don't think that's fair considering Karl gave him zero minutes during our meltdown.
 
I'd ask all of you to check out the gameflow: http://popcornmachine.net/gf?date=20160107&game=LALSAC

Lakers went on immediate 9-0 run when Cousins sits in the third (I believe he was in foul trouble?). Things stabilize for a bit, then Laker run begins early in fourth, shortly after Curry is in (he's a -10 for this stretch). McLemore's return midway through the fourth doesn't stem the tide, but of course Cousins and Rondo were already in and they couldn't seem to stop it either.
 
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LPKingsFan said:
I'd ask all of you to check out the gameflow: http://popcornmachine.net/gf?date=20160107&game=LALSAC

Lakers went on immediate 9-0 run when Cousins sits in the third (I believe he was in foul trouble?). Things stabilize for a bit, then Laker run begins early in fourth, shortly after Curry is in (he's a -10 for this stretch). McLemore's return midway through the fourth doesn't stem the tide, but of course Cousins and Rondo were already in and they couldn't seem to stop it either.
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Like I said, Rain Type 17: people say that he's not good defensively, but then you take him out, and the defense actually gets a lot worse. It just fails to get better when you put him back in again.
 
Seth Curry plays better defense than Ben. WesMathews posted Ben up or did whatever he wanted to do....enter Seth Curry who was able to defend Mthews in the post, which shouldn't happen because of the size difference.

Right now, based on play as of late, both guys are missing open 3s. I think you flip a coin as to who gets minutes. You stick with Bellinelli for his allotted minutes because as the Dallas game indicates, he's capable of performing under pressure such as those 3 balls in the waning seconds. Ben takes it to the rim and slips for no apparent reason, have no clue what Curry can do in clutch situations because he's not been there very often
 
dude12 said:
Seth Curry plays better defense than Ben. WesMathews posted Ben up or did whatever he wanted to do....enter Seth Curry who was able to defend Mthews in the post, which shouldn't happen because of the size difference.

Right now, based on play as of late, both guys are missing open 3s. I think you flip a coin as to who gets minutes. You stick with Bellinelli for his allotted minutes because as the Dallas game indicates, he's capable of performing under pressure such as those 3 balls in the waning seconds. Ben takes it to the rim and slips for no apparent reason, have no clue what Curry can do in clutch situations because he's not been there very often
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I'd agree that Wes seems to have Ben's number for whatever reason. But Curry was getting eaten alive last night.
 
Tetsujin said:
Karl: "I don’t need anymore points, I don’t need anything more than than somebody to cover the damn basketball."

*plays Marco Bellinelli thirty minutes anyways*
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Well, he plays Marco that much because he helps set the "pace" of the NBA's 2nd highest scoring team. Duh.
 
Our perimeter defense is a JOKE and they made Derron Williams and D'Angelo Russell look like CP3 and Kyrie Irving. Seth plays with fire and he TRIES on defense. More than I can say for Collison and even Rondo. I still think we need to send off Collison. Seth would be happy with 12-15 minutes a game and we could get a viable SG.
 
What I would give to have Batum, Middleton, W. Matthews, Bazemore, D. Green, or C. Lee as our starting SG.

Three of those players just so happen to be UFA this summer, but factoring in how much cap we'll have after Rondo's payday & how much cap room every other team will have, it's unlikely that we'll bring one of them in this offseason. We'd most likely have to focus on a trade to upgrade SG.
 
Bosnian Diehard said:
I don't think that's fair considering Karl gave him zero minutes during our meltdown.
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No its exactly fair. Curry was there because Ben has been scared the whole season - that was Karl coaching last game when he went with Curry 36minutes because Ben was ghosting. Curry failed. And Ben returned. Then Ben failed because, same reasons as always. And we went to a full sized lineup (relatively given Acy is SF sized) down the stretch out of desperation since our small ones were going to lose the game.
 
twslam07 said:
What I would give to have Batum, Middleton, W. Matthews, Bazemore, D. Green, or C. Lee as our starting SG.

Three of those players just so happen to be UFA this summer, but factoring in how much cap we'll have after Rondo's payday & how much cap room every other team will have, it's unlikely that we'll bring one of them in this offseason. We'd most likely have to focus on a trade to upgrade SG.
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The only one in our price-range is Lee.
 
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