Woj lost his inside contact with the Kings when PDA left.
George Hill to the Cavaliers?
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Woj lost his inside contact with the Kings when PDA left.
Kingsfan23
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I respect Jones less for the Skal part. That seems like mouthing other illegitimate sources
KingsFanSince85
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I think the only reason he gets ANY play at all is because people glance at his name and think they're seeing Sam AMICK.
Touché. That’s pretty much what I did.
I’d easily trade Skal, Richardson, and Hill I’d it meant getting back Barnes or Hood that’s an easy trade for me. Both SFs have nice size and provide good defense, shooting, and scoring. And there are so many big men in the draft we stay in the top 5 Bagley or Aytonwe fall below 5 we get Jackson who will be an all nba defender and an elite shooter
This has to stop that’s outdated thinking. All the good teams have multiple 6’7-6’8 guys that’s why Boston took Tatum and Brown back to back picks. Barnes can and would play PF there’s like 3-4 PFs that would post him up
ParniValjak
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It makes NO sense for Dallas.
Why would they do that when Barnes is part of their younger core?
jcassio
Starter
Man, that gave me a headache.
But thanks.
YoungBlood
G-League
I just woke up from a nap and saw an notification from espn with both Buddy Hield and Bogdanovic’s names on it. I just about lost it until I realized it was that they are both playing in the rising stars challenge. But seriously I’m on edge with all this trade talk.
ParniValjak
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I swear I saw a tweet from one of the LA journalists (obviously quoted by someone else) where it was quoting coach Joerger as saying how Randle is a terrific player especially in the current day and age and how the game is played.
Randle and Zborh both don’t pass so there’s that attraction
ParniValjak
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Maybe he sees him as a younger version of ZBo! He is not a bad player though. He would probably be the best player we have had at PF since possibly Webber which is scary in itself.
KingsFanSince85
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Well, I am feeling a tad better that there have been no new developments today. Perhaps the short yardage defense that kept the Kings from relocating is coming up big again. 
I read several reports yesterday that said the Cavs were on the 1 yd line with this deal.
I read several reports yesterday that said the Cavs were on the 1 yd line with this deal.
LPKingsFan
All-Star
Jason Jones reported it too (and hinted that the Kings might be interested)
http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/kings-blog/article193884079.html
For what it's worth (probably not much) I was at a Lakers/Pistons game at Staples Center early in the season and Randle was the best player on the court that night on both ends. I was very impressed with his relentless energy level, the speed he attacks the basket with, his ability to handle the ball the full length of the floor and make plays, and his surprising effectiveness on defense. It felt like he was playing with an extra burst of energy that everyone else was lacking. And that just reinforces what I've seen from him in other Lakers/Kings games over the years. I'm not thrilled about the idea of giving up someone like Skal to get him because I think Skal has the higher ceiling and he's still so young. Also that outside jumper is an obvious hole in Randle's game right now and Skal is a stretch big at the best possible time for stretch bigs. But I can understand (and share) the appreciation for Julius Randle's game. He's the one guy on the Lakers I wouldn't mind poaching. Well okay, Kyle Kuzma has been damned impressive too so there's two guys now.
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KingsFanSince85
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I've never been overly impressed by Randle's game, even going back to UK. I dunno why.
I much prefer the UK big the Kings drafted a year later.
I much prefer the UK big the Kings drafted a year later.
Blob
Starter
A Randle-Skal trade makes sense for both teams.
The Lakers want to create TWO max slots for two of three of Paul George, LeBron or Boogie however much of a pipe dream it may be and that will NOT happen with Randle expected to command 80-100M as a RFA.
The Kings need nasty. Randle has nasty in him. He's a wrecking ball offensively.
He's kind of a better fit too next to Willie as a guy who's not going to get the rebound but clear space in the interior so Willie can fly in to get it.
Randle would also be a great pick and roll player with Boggy and Fox and running the break with Fox.
Randle also increased his FG% from 43% to 49% to 55% FGs this year. Good efficiency.
He doesn't have the range or shot blocking of Skal but he is the type of player this team lacks and needs. Nasty and physical.
This three team trade works but I will tell you why it should NOT happen (yet):
If the Kings add Randle they will be immediately more competitive. If the Lakers replace Randle with Skal they are likely to be less competitive.
This hurts both teams with Lakers contingent pick and the Kings needing a Top 3 or Top 5 player in the worst way.
The Lakers have to give their pick to the Celtics if it is between 2-5. Right now they are sitting pretty with a pick around 6-10.
This is a potential trade that perhaps can be revisited (minus CLE) when the season ends depending how Skal performs over the next 40 games.
I am still VERY high on Skal but Randle is probably a better complement for what we have and need.
It was also slightly disconcerting this first 30 games of this season were a total waste for the kid.
I am happy with the way he is performing lately but it is a bit perplexing how totally ineffective he was for a large chunk of the season.
LAL-SAC-CLE
P.S. In this hypothetical below we'd have to waive VC since it is a 2 for 3 to make the salaries work,
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Skal for Randle... **** outta here
Blob
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The Nets pick is NOT looking like it will be Top 5. Not owning their pick they have NO incentive to lose while all handful of teams (ORL, ATL, SAC) do.
The Nets play hard with their best talent DeAngelo Russell recently returning to the lineup.
It is also ludicrous to think about trading Boggy. He can easily be our starting SG for the next 7-8 years.
He can average 18 PPG 5 RPG and 5 APG be league leader in three point shooting and play great defense on guards AND most forwards.
(In January over 11 games, Boggy is averaging 15 PPG 3.5 RPG and 4.0 APG on 50% FGs and 46% on threes so the numbers I am projecting are not that far off.)
As Boggy continues to prove himself a high efficiency player it is only natural his usage rate will go up and correlate to production.
I see Boggy playing out his 3 year contract, then signing a 5 year 100M deal to stay with the Kings.
He has adapted extremely well to the NBA game (after a bit of slow start) and cannot make that kind of dough anywhere else.
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ockingsfan
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A trade for Randle makes little sense if all the chatter about Harry Giles being the "next big thing" is true.
We would have to re-sign Randall for big money, yet we have a potential star ready to burst on to the scene in Giles.
Also, if the Kings were so inclined, why not just try and sign him in the off season, when you don't have to give up anything in return, because the Lakers are not going to re-sign him.
We would have to re-sign Randall for big money, yet we have a potential star ready to burst on to the scene in Giles.
Also, if the Kings were so inclined, why not just try and sign him in the off season, when you don't have to give up anything in return, because the Lakers are not going to re-sign him.
The Hammer
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Sounds silly but trading Skal at this point would almost make me pull a Bricklayer.
Hey look, luv muh Kings... but I'm honestly getting tired of this. Futzing around with meaningless moves. It reminds me of a day trader that trades on emotion rather than a long term investor. Be the latter.
None of these moves mean anything, and they can mostly only serve to let us miss out on a developing young player. We should not be trading away any of our young players. HOW IN THE HECK ARE WE BEING ASKED OR EVEN CONSIDERING TRADING A YOUNG PROSPECT FOR THE RIGHT TO UNLOAD A 20M FREE AGENT WE JUST SIGNED FOR BASICALLY A COUPLE OF TRANSIENT ROLE PLAYERS?!?!?!??!?!?!?
Hey look, luv muh Kings... but I'm honestly getting tired of this. Futzing around with meaningless moves. It reminds me of a day trader that trades on emotion rather than a long term investor. Be the latter.
None of these moves mean anything, and they can mostly only serve to let us miss out on a developing young player. We should not be trading away any of our young players. HOW IN THE HECK ARE WE BEING ASKED OR EVEN CONSIDERING TRADING A YOUNG PROSPECT FOR THE RIGHT TO UNLOAD A 20M FREE AGENT WE JUST SIGNED FOR BASICALLY A COUPLE OF TRANSIENT ROLE PLAYERS?!?!?!??!?!?!?
Back away from the ledge.
None of these RUMORS mean anything at this point. If you get too worked up about them, you'll drive yourself nuts.
BTW? I'm moving this thread over to the Personnel Moves forum since it has, like so many before, become more speculative in nature and not breaking news.
upinsmoke
All-Star
Take it easy my friend. Cle probably asked about Skal and just like that his name is in a tweet.
Not a big fan of Randle. I don't think ZBO's style of basketball has a real fit in modern basketball anymore. Randle reminds me a lot of ZBo.
I'd rather have a stretch 4 with a defensive 5.
John Galt
Starter
Weird how this rumor abruptly took a day off Wednesday (on my twitter timeline anyway). It was like it suddenly never happened.
Wonder if it will heat back up today (Thursday). I do give Vlade & co credit for not being very leaky... with PDA/Karl there were constant leaks and counter-leaks. Doesn't feel that way with the Kings now.
Wonder if it will heat back up today (Thursday). I do give Vlade & co credit for not being very leaky... with PDA/Karl there were constant leaks and counter-leaks. Doesn't feel that way with the Kings now.
I think there is room for any player that can score in the paint like Zbo, just have to pair him up with the right big. Instead of a stretch 4, maybe it's a stretch 5 as long as one of them can play defense. It worked in Memphis for a long time between Zbo and Gasol. Like anything, seems like most styles can work but you just have to have the right players to fit. Small ball works but not a Rondo, Collison, Bellinelli small ball lineup. It's got to be the right pieces.......I think Sac is in the early process of finding those pieces.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
I think he has a lot of fans. As Reynolds has pointed out, his weakness is his TOs. He would certainly add physicallity to the Kings lineup.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
I'd even be happy with that pick, as long as it is unprotected. You have to think about Cleveland post-LBJ, and it isn't going to be pretty.
upinsmoke
All-Star
But so can a number of players from this year's draft class. Don't get me wrong I think he's a good player but I'm not an essential piece for us going forward.
