I think anyone who's in love with AD, has to love Blake Griffin too. I think Blake Griffin is better than AD, but a lot of people overall will not admit Griffin's talents.
[Game] Game 11: Sacramento Kings vs. New Orleans Pelicans. 11/18/14 7 PM PST, 10 PM EST
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ShastaKingsFan
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In Malone's interview, he said that that Collison wasn't playing that well in the 3rd. I think he jumped to a conclusion way too soon and it may have cost us. Collison is one of our players who we should just stick with, even if he seems to be a bit off. He helps the team more with his court generalship, then even his individual game would sometime indicate
HereWeBoogie
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Griffin is pure scum
Tetsujin
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Hell, Collison and Ben had the only +s for the Kings and the two bench guards had the biggest minuses.
Umm, yeah
HereWeBoogie
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Yea you don't bench a guy down the stretch because the team played a bad quarter after he just had a 8 assist first half.
JT got iced by the coach as well
Chubbs
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That's not quite true. Things are changing. From the article brick posted. It feels lot like praise.
"Quite simply, Cousins is one of the league’s most unique and ascendant forces. He’s a top-five guy in points, rebounds, and free throw attempts per 36 minutes. And yet, he still hasn’t earned a true superstar reputation. Perhaps it’s because he plays for a team that’s been absent from the playoffs since 2006. But there’s hope for Sacramento: If anyone in the league is going to suddenly turn a miss into a make, it’s Boogie."
I don't recall as a kid feeling like if I liked Magic Johnson I had to therefore hate Larry Bird. Times have changed I guess.
KingsFanSince85
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And Tyreke misses that shot 8 or 9 times out of 10. But since he was playing us, his horrible 1st half had to turn into an excellent 2nd half due to karma.
If Tyreke was a consistent clutch performer or even a consistent player in general, he'd still be wearing a Kings uni. Solid player on the right team, but in no way worth the $$ he got.
On a side note, it seems Ryan Anderson will forever torture his hometown team. Why we continue to leave that cat wide open every time we face him is beyond me. As much as the Kings need a player like him, seeing him do what he did tonight is like salt in an open wound.
HereWeBoogie
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Yea you don't bench a guy down the stretch because the team played a bad quarter after he just had a 8 assist first half.
Not sur
Yet Ben sat out until like 5+ mins left and DC sat out till 3+ mins left. Perfect execution
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KingMilz
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Yeah rotations 2night were awful, he kept Cuz out of the game way to long as well in the 4th and he should have at least tried using Sessions.
The argument is that he can't carry your offense. (Like Dwight can't.) He's not Lebron/Durant level and it's too early to start saying that just because of advanced stats stuff. He's like somebody bred Gerald Wallace with Dhalism from Street Fighter. It's amazing, but his defensive awareness/IQ needs to improve and he needs a go to shot on offense.
rainmaker
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I take it you've never heard of Bill Simmons?
I don't think the media fully respects Cousins yet. They've acknowledge him a few times, but it was because they saw a "mature change" in Cousins. Not a single write up about his game. ESPN will post AD's block on their front page, but wouldn't even mention Cousin's big block in today's game.
ShastaKingsFan
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Cousins' interviews are getting better and better, especially after tough losses. Really giving insight to his much improved mental game and maturity. Really like what we're seeing and hearing from him. This organization and team has had a tremendous impact on him
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KingMilz
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Nor should they we lost, who cares anyway who get's more hype and who does what, it's about getting a W and we didn't do that 2night and until we do that on a regular basis no one is going to pay attention to the team.
People are impressed by different things, if someone is impressed by a guy scoring 20 points on spoon feeds more power to them.
Bill Simmons does love Cousins. I forgot about him
Replacing Rudy with Ray in the 1st was also very odd. I wonder what Malone was trying to achieve?
HereWeBoogie
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How do we let Tyreke drop an 18 5 and 5 2nd half on us
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/podcast/archive?id=9545077
http://grantland.com/
Cousins seems to be getting plenty of love to me: maybe you're just paying attention to the wrong media?
Malone said he went with Ray over Collison because he didn't think Collison was playing well and he wanted someone to run the team. Not sure what game he was watching.
But the Q was why can't Kings fans acknowledge AD's greatness. To directly answer that, why should they? The media doesn't acknowledge Cousin's greatness like they do AD.. So why should I?
Ray's job tonight was to give the ball to Omri or Gay.... wtf? Collison could've done that. The last person who he should've been playing based on performance was Nik. That's a bad response from coach.
Monty Williams actually did a pretty good job keeping Thompson out of the game in the second half: neither he nor Cousins can defend Ryan Anderson, so he put a lineup out there that forced us to go small.
Glenn
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If it comes to a choice between Boogie and AD, I take Boogie because he can create for himself. As to AD, he's 21 years old and who knows what he will be like in 5 years? I don't think I have said or written anything that would indicate that I am over rating him. Certainly he's a very good basketball player and when he learns more moves as a center, could be quite a bit better. A few years ago he was a guard and then grew 8 inches. Maybe he is still learning how to be a center. If saying that all he does is finish what guards have set up for him is something that requires minimal skill, I wonder why there aren't more players who score as much as he does.
kingsnation
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That's crap. My next question for coach would've been, "what did Nik and Ray do then in the 4th that merited giving them the minutes as opposed to Darren?"
They certainly weren't playing "well."
Bill thought Cousins would bomb the FIBA tournament and the USA team was hopeless without Davis. He said repeatedly that if Davis gets in foul trouble or hurt and all they had was Cousins or Drummond then USA was screwed.
He then yells BOOOGIE and smiles.
ShastaKingsFan
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He said he was matching up to their 3 guards on the floor who are good 1 on 1 players. He wanted Ray's defense on the extra guard
kingjatt
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the interviewers were very hesistant to point it out and even asked him in a round about sort of way, he got off easy during the interview i would say.
If this were New York or LA he would have been grilled over and over.
Oh well everyones inclined to mistakes and hes earned an experiment or two but lets see if he learned from them on thursday.
I'd buy that if we didn't decide Landry was the defensive solution to that lineup
So Nik is a better defender than Collison
ShastaKingsFan
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That's crap. My next question for coach would've been, "what did Nik and Ray do then in the 4th that merited giving them the minutes as opposed to Darren?"
They certainly weren't playing "well."
One of the areas of improvement early in this season, is that we need to play our best players more. It appears that we're a bit "gun shy" of possibly wearing them out with a lot of playing time. I think Collison especially, can handle a lot of playing time with no problem whatsoever
I look at it like this: I would take DeMarcus Cousins over Anthony Davis, but I would also take Anthony Davis over any big in the NBA not named DeMarcus Cousins. For that matter, I would take Anthony Davis over any player, at any position under 26 years old in the NBA not named DeMarcus Cousins.
kingsnation
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The Media doesn't acknowledge Cousins so I won't acknowledge Davis.
That's really your argument?
Might as well buy it, anyway: what Williams does with his lineup has no bearing on what Malone does to counter it. He knew that Thompson couldn't guard him, and he knew that he couldn't take Cousins off the floor. He thought that Landry might stand a chance. He was wrong, of course.
I probably would have given Hollins a chance. Hell, at least Evans would have given him a prostate exam, for his trouble.
My argument has been that Anthony Davis cannot create his own offense. That has been ignored, and someone asked why can't Kings fans acknowledge AD's greatness, like Cousins? Why not ask the media why they don't talk about Cousins as much as they do AD?
I second this
HighFlyingMonkey
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????
The media has been all over Boogie this year. To AD's level? No, but part of AD's appeal is that he's two years and some change younger than Boogie
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