Free Agent Buzz 2.0 (mentions Hedo)

[JasonThompsonFan]

Free Agent Buzz 2.0 (UPDATE)

Posted on: June 30, 2009 7:57 pm
Edited on: June 30, 2009 8:01 pm


With the start of the free-agent negotiating period only hours away, here's the latest information culled from executives, agents, and other people in the know:

* Don't discount Sacramento when it comes to Turkoglu, one rival exec urged. There's familiarity from Turkoglu's previous stint with the Kings, and Sacramento is desperate to generate buzz with a big-ticket player. Think Tyreke Evans and Turkoglu running the side pick-and-roll until the cowbells come home.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/15822306

 

[jdbraver]

I just can't see it, I like hedo but why would he want to come here and why would we want a 30 y/o seeking big $$$? Maybe a 1 year deal, but I'm sure he is looking to cash in long term.

 

[sauce-26]

There would have to be other moves involved for us to get good. Who knows. Adding turk, Evans, Martin getting better along with hawes, thompson and garcia. We might have something in a couple of years.

 

[sactownfan]

Hmmm this this would be interesting...

It would have to be a sign and trade. How bout KT and Beno for Hedo... Dont they need a back up PG now that Skip to my lou is gone???

that trade would be totally cool with me

 

[sauce-26]

Diddo man. But if you are the magic, would you really make that trade? Realistically? Would be really sweet if it happens, but if I am the magic, I would hold out for better if I was going to sign and trade.

 

[sactownfan]

Diddo man. But if you are the magic, would you really make that trade? Realistically? Would be really sweet if it happens, but if I am the magic, I would hold out for better if I was going to sign and trade.

yeah i wasn't thinking clearly... theres about 0% chance that deal goes down... If hedo was signed for 5 years maybe... but my bad that was a really dumb trade... (not thinkin)

 

[ParniValjak]

Magic will not be interested in any sign and trades. The point is that they want to pay as less luxury tax as they can. If they get contracts back for Hedo, they might as well sign him up and put a ridicilously good line up on the floor.

Either Hedo agrees to stay with Magic for less that he planned for, or his signs with one of the teams with enough salary cap space to sign him outright eg Detroit.

 

[Section 101]

Magic will not be interested in any sign and trades. The point is that they want to pay as less luxury tax as they can. If they get contracts back for Hedo, they might as well sign him up and put a ridicilously good line up on the floor.

Either Hedo agrees to stay with Magic for less that he planned for, or his signs with one of the teams with enough salary cap space to sign him outright eg Detroit.

The catch is the Kings can have about 7.5 mil extra they can absorb. So we could say KT +cap space for hedo. That would save them money. Better yet, Beno + cap space !!!! They get a back up PG.

 

[ParniValjak]

The catch is the Kings can have about 7.5 mil extra they can absorb. So we could say KT +cap space for hedo. That would save them money. Better yet, Beno + cap space !!!! They get a back up PG.

They are already at the tax limit and this is without re-signing Hedo. Now why would they pay some $16 million to have KT on the bench for a while or pay $12 million to have Beno as your back up PG?!

C'mon it makes absolutly no sense. Magic have said that if they can't sign Hedo they aren't really interested in sign and trades.

Remember they would need to pay dollar for dollar luxury tax if they go over the cap that just is not worth it from their perspective.

 

[Prince_XY]

Acquire Hedo?

And what will Hedo do for the future of the Kings - give the Kings some 20 more wins and eat-up cap space and in the process worsens the logjam and mess-up the development of our younger players at the small forward position?

If Hedo is younger and at least an above average defender, and if we don't have Nocioni, Greene, Casspi, and Garcia in the line-up, then certainly there shouldn't be any problem with adding Hedo to the team.

I think we should consider acquiring a bigger and/or younger defensive player who can play Center position to back-up Hawse and Thompson.

 

[Kingster]

I just can't see it, I like hedo but why would he want to come here and why would we want a 30 y/o seeking big $$$? Maybe a 1 year deal, but I'm sure he is looking to cash in long term.

Agreed. There is absolutely no purpose in him coming here. He's too old for a young team, and we can't compete with the big bucks for him, and why in the world would he come here when he can find another playoff team to vie for his services?

 

[Kingsin07]

Noc goes to Orlando in an S&T for Hedo. We have the cap space and they need toughness, not scoring. Noc would be a perfect fit, closer to Argentina (like that matters to Kings fans) and would be a cheaper option (7.5 mil) in light of the Vinsanity acquisition. They may also then find a way to resign Gortat.

We bring in Hedo for 4 years, 40 mil and have a player who will bring credibility, fans and excitement.

Hedo, JT, Spencer, Martin, Evans.....not a playoff team, but a team that can be interesting and keep building.

A big is still needed, but a Varajao isnt coming to Sac and we cant afford to slow down the growth of JT and Spencer, so a stiff makes no sense. Gortat isn't coming either, so Petrie will find someone who can play 12 mins a game and we will win 25 games next year.

 

[Heuge]

This would kill our rebiuld in my opinion.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

And what will Hedo do for the future of the Kings - give the Kings some 20 more wins and eat-up cap space and in the process worsens the logjam and mess-up the development of our younger players at the small forward position?

If any player is going to bring you 20 more wins in and of himself and you can acquire him, you acquire him. But Hedo on our current roster is probably worth 5 wins at best -- maybe LeBron would be worth 20 by himself.

I'm not sure how we would end up the top suitors for Hedo, though. Orlando apparently is not looking at sign-and-trades, and we don't have immense cap space to offer him the best deal. Memphis, Detroit and Atlanta have huge cap space, and Oklahoma City and Portland have more than we do. We're probably looking at about $7M, which isn't likely to get an enticing deal done for Turkoglu, especially considering we're not a contender.

 

[rainmaker]

I think Hedo will end up in Portland. Honestly, why would he come here.

 

[PFFFT!!]

No Hedo. Thanks. This team needs to tank next year to get a good lottery pick and go for the class of 2010 free agents. NO NO NO.

 

[TheFifthMookie]

No Hedo. Thanks. This team needs to tank next year to get a good lottery pick and go for the class of 2010 free agents. NO NO NO.

aww man, more tanking? I can't take another year like last year. There's something to be said about avoiding the development of a "Culture of losing" like the Clippers have.

 

[hammystyle]

If any player is going to bring you 20 more wins in and of himself and you can acquire him, you acquire him. But Hedo on our current roster is probably worth 5 wins at best -- maybe LeBron would be worth 20 by himself.

I'm not sure how we would end up the top suitors for Hedo, though. Orlando apparently is not looking at sign-and-trades, and we don't have immense cap space to offer him the best deal. Memphis, Detroit and Atlanta have huge cap space, and Oklahoma City and Portland have more than we do. We're probably looking at about $7M, which isn't likely to get an enticing deal done for Turkoglu, especially considering we're not a contender.

Not necessarily on topic, but with Lebron the Kings would be contenders. He's that good.

 

[chasen4r1]

No Hedo. Thanks. This team needs to tank next year to get a good lottery pick and go for the class of 2010 free agents. NO NO NO.

Please, no more tanking. I'm not sure how much more of that any of us can take.

 

[SacKings7]

Please, no more tanking. I'm not sure how much more of that any of us can take.

Much more? This team has never tanked. We just suck

 

[Warhawk]

Much more? This team has never tanked. We just suck

Yep. Big difference.

 

[PFFFT!!]

Sometimes you need to sacrifice in order to get something better. I would just use this year to clear up more space, retain KT (unless we get a YOUNGER above average player, NOT HEDO, in a trade), get rid of Beno for any cap relief player like KT or a pick even, and hit the 2010 class full on to get a star-like player our picks can evolve around. We all know there isn't much this year. Why rush it? Whatever we get this year will be stuck on us like a fly on flypaper for years. Hell no, Ill take the tanking for a year.

 

[HighTopKicks]

Hedo was successful handling the ball as the Point Forward. We just got our starting PG, and he needs the ball to be successfull. Plus, what happened to all the Princeton lovers. If we're going to have Spencer run some offense from the High Post, we just don't have enough possessions to give Hedo the ball. And, even if we could trade Noc, we're still left with Donte, Casspr, and Garcia, and there just isn't enough minutes for all of them.

What we need is a backup Center. If we spend cap money that's where we need to spend it. Spencer, JT, Martin & Evans are going to use up 150mpg. If Donte & Casspri each get 20mpg at the 3 & 4, that only leaves 50mpg for the backup PG, Cisco, and backup front line. Maybe bring in a vet star wins us a few extra games, but at the expense of PT for our young guys. The one thing that a rebuilding team needs is to get their youth on the floor to gain experience and so the FO can evaluate their talent.

Play the youth then spend the money when you know where your needs are. Why spend $10M on Hedo when in 2 yrs Casspri could be better than Hedo?

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Why spend $10M on Hedo when in 2 yrs Casspri could be better than Hedo?

While anything can happen, I think that if anybody thought Casspi would surpass Hedo in two years he'd have been drafted higher than #23.

 

[Showtime]

While anything can happen, I think that if anybody thought Casspi would surpass Hedo in two years he'd have been drafted higher than #23.

And if the kings or spurs knew Hedo could play like that, he wouldn't have been with Orlando.

 

[NoBonus]

We know the Kings have needs at the 4-5... I wonder how attainable a guy like Paul Millsap would be.

 

[DoDiGaG0]

We know the Kings have needs at the 4-5... I wonder how attainable a guy like Paul Millsap would be.

~7mill

and at that price I wouldn't want someone like that as a backup

 

[Kings Faithful]

Leon Powe anyone? Boston let him become a unrestricted free agent, so here is our shot to get him.

 

[TTown Kings]

Please, no more tanking. I'm not sure how much more of that any of us can take.

unfortunately we're all gonna have to take at least one more year. better get ready for it. i'd rather know its coming than have unrealistic expectations and be utterly dissapointed. Some of you guys are setting yourselves up for a difficult year next season. it is what it is, we're not going to magically transform into a playoff contender with 3 new rookies added to last years roster. it is what it is. just hope they improve and the rooks play well and give us hope for the future

 

[Bballkingsrock]

Here are the big men I think the Kings should get realistically:

- Gortat
- Anderson verajo
- Milsap