Fox talks about his shot
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Not that I disagree with Fox, but DeAndre Jordan could also say he's going to play all year and shoot better than 90% at the FT line.
I hope Fox is right and by all accounts he is a gym rat and hard worker. So maybe this year he already shows improvement. I am obviously 100% behind him doing so. But just because someone says it will improve doesn't mean the problem is fixed.
KingsFanSince85
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Difference is, Jordan is a "big" and not a skill player.
I just firmly believe that skill players that are highly motivated to improve usually do. Also, from what I understand, Fox was a good enough shooter in HS that just struggled a bit his freshman year. He showed improvement the 2nd half of the season and doesn't have poor form. Because of all that and his desire to be great, I'm not concerned about it.
I never said I was pulling my hair out stressing about it, but it also isn't "fixed" because he says it will be. And he also hasn't played NBA competition before. Obviously I'd love to see Heild-type 3 pt % numbers from last year, but we will see if he is able to improve that outside shooting his first year in the NBA. Obviously I hope he is correct and is able to do so!
King Baller
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Fox does shoot the FT well, has a great mid-range game and a sweet floater. I expect his 3 point shot will come around.
Fox scored around 40 points in the tournament when it counted under the bright lights as a freshman. He does not lack confidence. I believe this kid is really something and that no one should under estimate him. He gets open with quickness and makes good decisions. Lots of NBA players have extended their range after they arrived in the pros. You cannot teach speed and great passing ability.
jcwkings
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The first thing he has to do is make that midrange pull up and floater(Like Conley). He is so quick he will be able to drive around the first guy but he needs to be a threat in that in between game to truly break open defenses. If the bigs have to come up and honor the in between game it will be easy lobs and dump offs to WCS, Skal, Papa, Giles. His three point shooting will mainly come from spot ups when we are working through Skal or maybe Papa in the post and the ball swings to Fox. I just think we got the right guy, Fox has that "it" factor, not afraid of the spotlight and he looks like he will become the leader of the squad before long. He seems to have those intangibles to rally the troops and inspire the team that I always said Cousins didnt have. Now lets see how much his game matches the intangibles.
Ozymandias
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He was cold to start the college seasons so he stopped taking as many, because for him to pull up instead of attack is letting the defense off easy, not because he can't make them...
He shot like 45% from 3 in his last 10 games. He's no Elfrid Payton or Emmanuel Mudiay, Fox has considerably better shot selection than those 2 also..
He's gotta work on going / finishing right(Something Conley,another lefty, is excellent at). His shot will be fine.
He shot like 45% from 3 in his last 10 games. He's no Elfrid Payton or Emmanuel Mudiay, Fox has considerably better shot selection than those 2 also..
He's gotta work on going / finishing right(Something Conley,another lefty, is excellent at). His shot will be fine.
Kingster
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I'm setting a fairly low bar for Fox and his outside shooting for the first two or three years. I just want him to be able to hit open 20 footers at a high percentage and on a consistent basis. In so doing, he would be a legit threat and teams would be penalized if they slough off of him to double-team others. Sure, it would be great if he could hit 3 pointers rather than 2 pointers if he's open, but I think that's asking too much for the first couple of years. Let's not have a situation where a rookie takes it upon himself to get 3 point shooting lessons during NBA games when he's not currently equipped to make them. We've seen that kind of behavior with others, e.g. Thomas Robinson. Joerger is perfect for tutoring the young man because of his experience with Mike Conley, who was very judicious with the shots he took in his early years in the NBA and who steadily improved his range to the 3 point line.
By the way, the above is what I fully expect in the coaching of Fox. Look at Skal and how Joerger had him focus on his inside game last year. He wasn't bombing away from the 3 point line, and he in fact has more touch from that distance than Fox at this point. The message was obviously sent to Skal: Focus first on your inside game and get good at that; then with time incorporate more 3 point shooting. Do the tough stuff first; the easy stuff later. Joerger is coaching the right way, not the easy way, and it's going to pay off in the future.
By the way, the above is what I fully expect in the coaching of Fox. Look at Skal and how Joerger had him focus on his inside game last year. He wasn't bombing away from the 3 point line, and he in fact has more touch from that distance than Fox at this point. The message was obviously sent to Skal: Focus first on your inside game and get good at that; then with time incorporate more 3 point shooting. Do the tough stuff first; the easy stuff later. Joerger is coaching the right way, not the easy way, and it's going to pay off in the future.
nebs
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He's going to be on a legit professional food and workout plan now and he strikes me as the type of dude that will get after it proper like. Big Papa started looking like Svelte Papa last year lol.
KingsFanSince85
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If he wasn't 19 yo, I might be concerned too. But he is 19, so I'm not. He will fill out.
Exactly. And he'll fill out with age, as his metabolism continues to change.
bajaden
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Actually, after Fox came back from his injury that kept him out of a few games, he started shooting the ball much better. He said he went and looked af film from his highschool days, and made some corrections to his shot. As a result, he shot much better. He went so far as to say, that the average person wouldn't be able to tell the changes he made. They were minor, but they made a difference. He's a very smart kid.
EIM86
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I went to school with Kawhi Leonad and his shot was so ugly back at SDSU. He worked his butt off to get a better shot. I see Fox with a similar work ethic.
bajaden
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Don't think Fox was implying that his shot needed further fixing, but that he needed reps. Big difference. We all know that Buddy can shoot the ball, but at New Orleans, he sturggled. Players do go through slumps, and when that happens, they need to shoot their way out of it. If you don't get the chance to do that, which he didn't at New Orleans, then the struggle can continue longer than need be. When he arrived here, Joerger gave him the green light, and wa la, he started hitting his shots.
Fox shot the ball well in highschool, but struggled at Kentucky. However in his last ten games, he shot the ball well. He's said that he tweaked his shot. So now, all he needs to put up several thousand a day in the gym. He's the kind of player that will do that.
bajaden
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Considering that Fox is actually right handed, but shoots the ball left handed (no explanation) he should have no trouble going to his right eventually. Personally, I think most NBA defenders have trouble guarding left handed players. I mean everyone in the world knows that Isaiah Thomas is going to go left, and yet, they allow him to do it over and over again.
bajaden
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Speaking of big Papa, James Ham said he saw him recently and that he's reshaped his body again and doesn't look like the same player that ended the season. I'm anxious to see him up close and personal at summer league.
jcwkings
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I heard that too, said he lost 20 lbs from where he was at end of season. Hopefully Papa starts to silence the critics in Summer league, where he was a running joke last year, and even currently people fail to recognize the improvement he showed from beginning of season to end of season.
"Running" might not be the best choice of words there...
But I'm all ready for Papa to go "Ox" on us:
The Hammer
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Papa is my fave of all the Kings bigs.
twslam07
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I saw him at Chicago Fire like 2-3 weeks ago. He looked thinner to me, but I wasn't sure if it was just TV vs. real life at the time so this makes me think that he is thinner than at the end of the season.
KingsFanSince85
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This is very true. It's sorta akin to left handed tennis players (Rafa Nadal) and left handed pitching in baseball. Players just don't see all that many of them and when they face a really good one, they aren't as prepared for it as they think they might be. Conversely, the lefty always goes against right-handed players thus have an advantage.
It used to drive me crazy how defenders would allow Manu Ginobili to constantly drive to his left. Even when he was forced right, he invariably came back to his left most the time. On the surface, it should be easy to defend, but of course it wasn't. IMO, Derek Fisher's career was greatly aided by the fact that he was a lefty.
macadocious
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Hope he was there for the chicken spinach salad
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