Fixing the flaw

#1
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/nba/specials/playoffs/2006/05/15/bc.bkn.stern.playoffsee.ap/index.html

Fixing the flaw

Stern unveils his new plan for postseason seeding

Posted: Monday May 15, 2006 11:07PM; Updated: Monday May 15, 2006 11:07PM


DALLAS (AP) -- Maybe this will make Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban feel better about his $200,000 fine from the NBA last week: Cuban's club has forced a likely change in the playoff format.


NBA commissioner David Stern discussed a new seeding system Monday aimed at fixing the flaw the Mavericks exposed this season. The Mavs won 60 games, but were seeded fourth behind the three division winners despite a better record.

That's why Dallas and San Antonio, both in the Southwest Division, are meeting in the second round despite having the two best records in the Western Conference.
Under the new proposal, the top four seeds would be slotted by record among the three division winners and the team with the next-best record. Had that been in place this season, the Spurs still would have been No. 1, but the Mavericks would have been No. 2. And they couldn't have met until the conference finals.
The team with the better record -- regardless of seed -- would also have home-court advantage in a series under the new system.
Stern said it was important to keep rewarding division winners in the new system, which still must be approved by the league's competition committee.
"I think if you're going to have a division structure, then give some credibility to that fact," Stern said.
Before Monday's game, Stern visited with Cuban while the outspoken owner worked out on a stair-stepper machine in the Mavericks' locker room. Cuban was wearing a T-shirt that read "Payback time" and told Stern the workout was his pregame ritual.
Last week, Cuban was fined for going on the court to complain about the officiating and for critical comments he made in a blog entry under the title, "How to improve NBA Playoff Officiating."
In the blog, Cuban called the current way officials are chosen for the playoffs a "huge problem." He went on to suggest the league rank referees based on their regular-season performance and use the minimum number of officials necessary in the postseason.
Stern said Sunday he didn't think there was merit to the idea.
"It's the kind of conversation I understand and it is an issue, but that's a conversation I would have privately with my owners," Stern said.
"Whatever the individual merits of a particular incident, I can't have 30 owners out there saying whatever they feel like saying. And I can't have 30 owners running on the court to berate the officials."
Stern also said the league would likely ban players next season from wearing tights underneath the shorts. Some players, including Miami Heat star Dwyane Wade, have worn leggings that extend all the way down to the ankles.
Stern squeezed in a parting shot at the tights before he likely outlaws the growing fashion trend.
"I think it's good that they look goofy," Stern said.
Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
 
#2
atxrocker said:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/nba/specials/playoffs/2006/05/15/bc.bkn.stern.playoffsee.ap/index.html

Fixing the flaw

Stern unveils his new plan for postseason seeding

Posted: Monday May 15, 2006 11:07PM; Updated: Monday May 15, 2006 11:07PM


DALLAS (AP) -- Maybe this will make Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban feel better about his $200,000 fine from the NBA last week: Cuban's club has forced a likely change in the playoff format.


NBA commissioner David Stern discussed a new seeding system Monday aimed at fixing the flaw the Mavericks exposed this season. The Mavs won 60 games, but were seeded fourth behind the three division winners despite a better record.

That's why Dallas and San Antonio, both in the Southwest Division, are meeting in the second round despite having the two best records in the Western Conference.
Under the new proposal, the top four seeds would be slotted by record among the three division winners and the team with the next-best record. Had that been in place this season, the Spurs still would have been No. 1, but the Mavericks would have been No. 2. And they couldn't have met until the conference finals.
The team with the better record -- regardless of seed -- would also have home-court advantage in a series under the new system.
Stern said it was important to keep rewarding division winners in the new system, which still must be approved by the league's competition committee.
"I think if you're going to have a division structure, then give some credibility to that fact," Stern said.
Before Monday's game, Stern visited with Cuban while the outspoken owner worked out on a stair-stepper machine in the Mavericks' locker room. Cuban was wearing a T-shirt that read "Payback time" and told Stern the workout was his pregame ritual.
Last week, Cuban was fined for going on the court to complain about the officiating and for critical comments he made in a blog entry under the title, "How to improve NBA Playoff Officiating."
In the blog, Cuban called the current way officials are chosen for the playoffs a "huge problem." He went on to suggest the league rank referees based on their regular-season performance and use the minimum number of officials necessary in the postseason.
Stern said Sunday he didn't think there was merit to the idea.
"It's the kind of conversation I understand and it is an issue, but that's a conversation I would have privately with my owners," Stern said.
"Whatever the individual merits of a particular incident, I can't have 30 owners out there saying whatever they feel like saying. And I can't have 30 owners running on the court to berate the officials."
Stern also said the league would likely ban players next season from wearing tights underneath the shorts. Some players, including Miami Heat star Dwyane Wade, have worn leggings that extend all the way down to the ankles.
Stern squeezed in a parting shot at the tights before he likely outlaws the growing fashion trend.
"I think it's good that they look goofy," Stern said.
Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Band-Aid on an open wound. They need to get rid of the divisions all together. This isn't like football and baseball with wild cards.
 
#3
JonBoy418 said:
Band-Aid on an open wound. They need to get rid of the divisions all together. This isn't like football and baseball with wild cards.

Couldn't agree more! just do away with divisions all together.
 

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
#4
Well it's not like one has to look very far back to see a workable system. Divisions per say are not the problem, it's useing them to create births, crhist it's CLEARLY possible tat in the East a team with could snag the sencond or third birth with a WORSE record than a team not even making the Play offs. Simple fix-seed by record. You wnat to give 1st round HCA to divisno leaders fine that's almost a no harm situation but this mess DID screw over teams that succeeded while rewarding chum teams that actually tried to lose their way into a CLEARLY weak bracket.
 
#5
HndsmCelt said:
Well it's not like one has to look very far back to see a workable system. Divisions per say are not the problem, it's useing them to create births, crhist it's CLEARLY possible tat in the East a team with could snag the sencond or third birth with a WORSE record than a team not even making the Play offs. Simple fix-seed by record. You wnat to give 1st round HCA to divisno leaders fine that's almost a no harm situation but this mess DID screw over teams that succeeded while rewarding chum teams that actually tried to lose their way into a CLEARLY weak bracket.
Divisions may not be the problem, but what really is the point of them? If it's based on fix-seed by record, then divisions are not needed.

According to the NBA, divisions were set to make divisional and regional rivaleries. Okay, that's fine but I don't think it succeeded. Look at the most intense rivaleries within the past 20-30 years and you'll notice that rivaleries are based on head to head match ups and not divisional similarities.

New York vs. Indiana in the early to mid-90's
LA Lakers vs. Boston in the 80's
Chicago vs. Detriot in the early-90's
Kings vs. Lakers just recently

None of them mattered what division they were in. Take out the divisions and you'd still have the same rivaleries.

Most teams play each conference opponent four times. It doesn't differ between divisions, so there is the same amount of importance in conference games as there are in divisional games.
 

pdxKingsFan

So Ordinary That It's Truly Quite Extraordinary
Staff member
#6
While its preferable to just seed strictly off record with no guarantees beyond division winners getting in, this does actually remove any incentive teams have to tank for a lower seed so I can live with it.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#7
Just what has to be done. No real biggee. Especially now with three divisions, actually means the division winners won't be moved around by more than one seeding position (i.e. since its only the top four teams we're talking about).

The intentional tanking and jockeying down the stretch though had to be ended, and sooner rather than later.