fansinceday1
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Doesn't it seem that this was their desired outcome? I can't see any other reason why they have crushed this teams spirit.
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Thibs has rose. Jvg had tmac and Yao. It's easy to play that game.
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He was for a little while.
If you want to get a better draft pick, you don't go out and trade for Gay and sign Collisin. This FO is actually trying to win. They are just incompetent.
ForlornKing
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wrong.
Did he lead his team to make a play off push that short amount of time? No.
Did he put up insane numbers? No. 18 PPG 8 APG in his starts are good numbers, not Superstar though.
You're off by a large margin.
Hadlowe
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And D'antoni had Kobe, Nash, Howard, Pau Gasol, and the Artest formerly known as Metta-World Peace. He utterly failed to develop a system that was tailored to the most stacked starting five of all time with something approaching coherence and tried to force Wes Johnson (Wes Johnson!) and Shawne Williams (Shawne Williams!) to play the starting 4 because Pau Gasol isn't a very good three point shooter. He couldn't figure out how to use a twin towers frontcourt to bully other teams into submission. He couldn't manage volatile personalities (Kobe, Dwight.) The D'antoni system is the polar opposite of what Cousins and Gay are great at.
D'antoni is a system coach who failed with numerous superstar teams and succeeded with one, in part because he had a prime Shawn Marion filling in holes on defense and defending 1-5 depending on the matchups (seriously, prime Shawn Marion > Prime Lebron on the defensive end of the floor.) The Kings have Derrick Williams who can defend multiple positions by letting them get to the rim at equal rates. D'antoni could, possibly, be good with the right team again IF an owner would trust him as coach/GM so he could go get the players his system demands. He would be a complete disaster with Cousins on the team and might make me wish for the halcyon days of Keith F. Smart.
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You remember how ridiculous linsanity was right?
Hadlowe
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FWIW, the Knicks were out of the playoff picture at that point in the season and on a bad losing streak. Lin helped them win a bunch in a row in pretty spectacular fashion which did end up in a playoff appearance, even after he had cooled off a bit/got injured. They lost to Miami in the first round, of course. Lin looked for a while like he was worth his big contract from the Rockets, but D'antoni's system definitely helped inflate his numbers.
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You mean broken Kobe, Nash, Howard, and a washed up gasol and artest?
randymoss1881
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Better question is why a people responding to him.
Also only a fool would hire D'Antonie look what happend to Gosal when he left.
rainmaker
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You seriously just don't get it.
Thibs' success is hardly based on Rose, nor is JVG's based on Tmac/Yao. And even if it were, you should be asking yourself why Thibs tailored a system to Rose and JVG tailored a system to TMac/Yao, then ask yourself why you'd want a D'Antoni system tailored to Nash to be based around the top center in the league. You're campaigning for an up-tempo system based around elite PG's, not the top post-threat in the league.
Hadlowe
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Hogwash. Kobe's injury came 95% of the way through the season. Nash was hobbled, yes, but still decent when he saw playtime. Howard was in game shape from the start of the season, and Gasol was still Pau Gasol. Artest, I will give you as he had a pretty bad shooting slump to start the season, but he rounded into form over time and was still a multi-positional defensive role-player.
rhythmless
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The issue you have with this question is you are assuming a level of rationality/logic/basketball acumen that the front office has not demonstrated up to this point. If you allow yourself to see them for the idiots they are, a whole plethora of reasons will flood at your gates.
Maloofs were schemy, but you could always see the rationale. They needed money. They stayed under the cap, took the shared tax money, and sold their roster spots for the 3M. They gutted the team and were still able to sell it for the same price as if they had kept a competitive product. The Maloofs made sense.
Vivek is pushing a new low at managing a basketball operation. And he thinks he's great at it. You can't rationalize with the insane. Actually, I'd rather have the Maloofs at this point. At least they don't make me question reality.
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jdbraver
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I also get the feeling they have no idea what they want. One day it's pace the next day it's defense. Maybe their problem is too many plans which seems like none at all.
John Galt
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One of the mods has had his back every time somebody has tried to call him out on that stuff. Don't know why the mod scolds long-timers to back up this guy (I dare not call him the T word lest I get my knuckles rapped again), but I guess we want him here.
King Baller
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Not.
That mod believes that long-timers should know better than to call someone a troll and a sockpuppet simply because they have a different opinion. That's why.
I believe Shaq knows when not to step in the big pile of poopoo.
Have you EVER bothered to use the REPORT function to point out his behavior? Nope, and neither has anyone else.
This guy is a pain in the patoot but he has not yet crossed the line. When he does, and I"m sure he will, he will be dealt with BY THE MODS. It is not up to you guys to keep calling him a troll, and as has been stated above, you bring this on yourselves WHEN YOU CONTINUE TO RESPOND TO HIM.
I'm sorry if you think I'm showing favoritism here but banning someone because you don't like their content or their attitude is a very slippery slope. I'd hazard a guess that almost every member of the forum has someone they'd like to see banned.
Man, I've even presented a list to mods of people to ban!
Apparently they think I'm joking. I mean, there's the math guy, the smarmy lawyer guy who doesn't post the right girls during losses, the army guy (or navy, whatever), the cheery woman...
John Galt
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Oh wait. You're the mod in question? I thought I was the mod in question.
You guys are so funny. Slim is the mod in question and I bet you both know it.
Mods gonna mod. Its all good - I wouldn't want to do it and I'm grateful for your service.
Yeah..."Washed up Pau Gasol" who's an all star this year lol... Both Mike Brown and D'Antoni were terrible for that team.
It was Slim? Well, nertz.
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Kobe was broken throughout the season before his leg injury. Nash barely played. Howard used that season to rehab his back, and he wasn't really in to it. Hence why he immediately left. He was recovered in Houston an is an elite center but is firmly behind Cuz as the best and a farcry of the force he was in Orlando.
I will admit that although Gasol is a little overrated, MDA really had no idea how to use him. That was his greatest failure in LA.
Glenn
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NAVY!!!!!
Bricklayer
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I'll ban 'em!
One of the ways you survive this long in this job is the realization that he who bans first lives to ban another day.
Yeah, only one problem. We cannot ban each other. Jeremy is wise beyond his years.
And I know...because I tried it within about three seconds of the new software being installed.
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Mods have not not backed me up.....
Oh good lord. Seriously? We have collectively given you enough rope to reach from here to the moon and back...repeatedly. Do not continue to press your luck, dude.
In 1906, Evelyn Beatrice Hall wrote "The Friends of Voltaire." In it, she made a comment about Voltaire's attitude towards speech at a certain point in his life, which she summarized by "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,"
The quote, while often erroneously attributed to Voltaire, is still important. It is, by the way, the ONLY reason you are still on this board. But our patience will not last forever.
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