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It would be interesting to know what you think of the Kings immediate future. This is pretty much based on who we draft so the more prospects you can answer the better.

If we draft _______ we should sign/trade ________ and the goal for next season is to ______________________________.
 
If you'll bring this up after our draft position has been determined I'll play, but I can't remotely comment until we know if we're picking 1st or 8th.
 
Sorry, I can't play your game. I guess my head doesn't work that way. But since I've done some Kings future thinking this AM, unfortunately for you, I will share it.

For next year, if we would get in the playoffs we need a minimum of three things: (1) need a veteran starting center to add to Landry, Thompson and Hawes; (2) need a starting small forward ridding ourselves of either Greene or Casspi; (3) need a competent two guard to back up Evans, Udrih and Garcia. If we had the three we would definitely be firmly in the playoffs. The numbers 1 thru 3 are my priority. It would seem a very long shot to be able to get the three. If we got any two of the three we would be marginal playoff propects.

We would be extremely lucky to get one of the three from the draft directly. We could trade a good draftee for one of them. All we would have to trade to get another would be Nocioni and either Casspi or Greene. The rest - Udoka, McGuire, May, Brockman, Dorsey - are not enough to get us a player.

We need three new players with the draft an unlikely direct source for any of them. We dearly lack experience. So who we draft and who we get in a trade I don't care. We need the three above and there are lots of them in the league but they each would be hard to come by.
 
pshn80 said:
Sorry, I can't play your game. I guess my head doesn't work that way. But since I've done some Kings future thinking this AM, unfortunately for you, I will share it.

For next year, if we would get in the playoffs we need a minimum of three things: (1) need a veteran starting center to add to Landry, Thompson and Hawes; (2) need a starting small forward ridding ourselves of either Greene or Casspi; (3) need a competent two guard to back up Evans, Udrih and Garcia. If we had the three we would definitely be firmly in the playoffs. The numbers 1 thru 3 are my priority. It would seem a very long shot to be able to get the three. If we got any two of the three we would be marginal playoff propects.

We would be extremely lucky to get one of the three from the draft directly. We could trade a good draftee for one of them. All we would have to trade to get another would be Nocioni and either Casspi or Greene. The rest - Udoka, McGuire, May, Brockman, Dorsey - are not enough to get us a player.

We need three new players with the draft an unlikely direct source for any of them. We dearly lack experience. So who we draft and who we get in a trade I don't care. We need the three above and there are lots of them in the league but they each would be hard to come by.
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First of all I agree that without knowing where were picking in the draft its hard to say who I would draft and have it be realistic. I mean I could say that I would draft Turner and then we end up picking 8th with no chance at him. Ditto Cousins.

But if we were to luck out and move up in the draft and draft either Turner or cousins, then one of the positions you listed would be taken care of. If Turner you would have a three man rotation of Evans, Beno, and Turner. Start whoever you want. If Cousins, then the center position is solved. Turner is the only guard that I personally would take in the top ten. He's the only one that can play the SG and PG equally well. Like Evans, he can also guard some SF's in the league.

If we draft Turner, then I look for a center in freeagency or through trade. If Cousins, or Aldrich, then I look for a back up PG or even a combo guard in freeagency. Thats about as good as I can do right now...
 
bajaden said:
If Cousins, or Aldrich, then I look for a back up PG or even a combo guard in freeagency. Thats about as good as I can do right now...
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You don't think a veteran PF would be a bigger need. Someone that could help develop JT and maybe even help develop Hawes and the new Center?
 
bajaden said:
First of all I agree that without knowing where were picking in the draft its hard to say who I would draft and have it be realistic. I mean I could say that I would draft Turner and then we end up picking 8th with no chance at him. Ditto Cousins.

But if we were to luck out and move up in the draft and draft either Turner or cousins, then one of the positions you listed would be taken care of. If Turner you would have a three man rotation of Evans, Beno, and Turner. Start whoever you want. If Cousins, then the center position is solved. Turner is the only guard that I personally would take in the top ten. He's the only one that can play the SG and PG equally well. Like Evans, he can also guard some SF's in the league.

If we draft Turner, then I look for a center in freeagency or through trade. If Cousins, or Aldrich, then I look for a back up PG or even a combo guard in freeagency. Thats about as good as I can do right now...
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I am salivating at the chance to get Cousins. He is exactly what this team needs. I have a question for you, since you seem to really like Cousins to. If we are lucky enough to get him, what would you do with Spencer?

If we got Cousins, I think he has to start. No way he wouldn't be our center of the future. He would be our best center from day one. Would you try to move Spencer? I think Spencer has a bright future in this league, and don't like him as a backup center. But Cousins obviously would be a better fit, and if we drafted him, we would commit to him as our starting center for the future. Unless you think Cousins possible could start at pf, next to Spencer, with Landry bavking him up?
 
rainmaker said:
I am salivating at the chance to get Cousins. He is exactly what this team needs. I have a question for you, since you seem to really like Cousins to. If we are lucky enough to get him, what would you do with Spencer?

If we got Cousins, I think he has to start. No way he wouldn't be our center of the future. He would be our best center from day one. Would you try to move Spencer? I think Spencer has a bright future in this league, and don't like him as a backup center. But Cousins obviously would be a better fit, and if we drafted him, we would commit to him as our starting center for the future. Unless you think Cousins possible could start at pf, next to Spencer, with Landry bavking him up?
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Would love to have Cousins or Favors, but realistically I would be quite satisfied with Aldrich or even Udoh.
Not Whiteside, Monroe or Davis.
 
rainmaker said:
I am salivating at the chance to get Cousins. He is exactly what this team needs. I have a question for you, since you seem to really like Cousins to. If we are lucky enough to get him, what would you do with Spencer?

If we got Cousins, I think he has to start. No way he wouldn't be our center of the future. He would be our best center from day one. Would you try to move Spencer? I think Spencer has a bright future in this league, and don't like him as a backup center. But Cousins obviously would be a better fit, and if we drafted him, we would commit to him as our starting center for the future. Unless you think Cousins possible could start at pf, next to Spencer, with Landry bavking him up?
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I certainly don't want Spencer to assume a mentoring role! :eek: I also don't think he would be happy as a career backup. He probably would love to be played at the 4, but he's really not that good there. Trade him.
 
rainmaker said:
I am salivating at the chance to get Cousins. He is exactly what this team needs. I have a question for you, since you seem to really like Cousins to. If we are lucky enough to get him, what would you do with Spencer?

If we got Cousins, I think he has to start. No way he wouldn't be our center of the future. He would be our best center from day one. Would you try to move Spencer? I think Spencer has a bright future in this league, and don't like him as a backup center. But Cousins obviously would be a better fit, and if we drafted him, we would commit to him as our starting center for the future. Unless you think Cousins possible could start at pf, next to Spencer, with Landry bavking him up?
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Well Cousins is not a PF. For starters I'd have a good competition in training camp and the player that plays the best wins the starting job. That might be Spence in the short term since he knows the system and Cousins doesn't. The important thing is for Cousins to get significant minutes. I think this would accomplish two things. first it would take pressure off of Cousins. And second it might light a fire under Hawes.

But at some point, Cousins will become the starter. I'd at least try Hawes as the backup once Cousins takes over the starting job. Lets face it. If you can get 35 or so minutes out of Cousins every night, then all you need from Hawes is 13 or 14 minutes off the bench. He would be a relatively cheap backup for a year or two. Of course another option would be to draft someone like Parakhouski or Jerome Jordan in the second round, so by the time your ready to trade Hawes or just let his contract expire, that player would be ready to step into the backup role.

Of course all of this is predicated on our getting lucky and being able to draft Cousins. If we can hang in the fifth or sixth position there's always a chance. I tell you, I would be a happy man if we could somehow snag Cousins. I won't turn down Favors either.
 
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bajaden said:
As in a round without a bullet? We will draft someone. I don't recall any players with the last name of Blanks...:rolleyes:
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I think there was Lance Blanks drated by...Detroit I think it was back in the 90s. SG? Largely sucked as I recall. And had a terrible name for an alleged shooter.
 
K F Jay said:
It would be interesting to know what you think of the Kings immediate future. This is pretty much based on who we draft so the more prospects you can answer the better.

If we draft _______ we should sign/trade ________ and the goal for next season is to ______________________________.
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If we draft Udoh we should sign Pryzbilla and the goal for next season is to lead the league in field goal percentage defense.

See, not that hard to play.
 
If we draft Cole Aldrich we should sign/trade Chris Bosh and the goal for next season is to use the playoffs for practice cause it'll come in handy for the Championship series we'll win in the next few years.

3rd move: Trade beasting Beno, Noci, and Hawes for Tyson Chandler and Agustin; replace Thompson with Hawes if needed.

4th: Hire parade planner.
 
cstorm said:
You don't think a veteran PF would be a bigger need. Someone that could help develop JT and maybe even help develop Hawes and the new Center?
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Carl Landry ring a bell? How do you plan playing all of Hawes, Thompson, Landry, the rookie center and the free agent power forward?
 
Packt said:
If we draft Cole Aldrich we should sign/trade Chris Bosh and the goal for next season is to use the playoffs for practice cause it'll come in handy for the Championship series we'll win in our new arena in the next few years.

3rd move: Trade beasting Beno, Noci, and Hawes for Tyson Chandler and Agustin; replace Thompson with Hawes if needed.

4th: Hire parade planner.
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fixed. ;)
 
Draft: If it’s in the top 2, I draft the best player regardless of position. Otherwise, I’d be leaning big… but I wouldn’t screw up the pick just for size or a center.

Free Agency: Unless, I could sign a true super star. I would save my cap for next summer. http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36290 Under almost all circumstances, the Kings should not sign anybody to a deal that averages more than 7 million a year. It’s truly buying Sacto real estate at peak prices – just months before the bubble pops … except you know it’s going to pop. Which is both short sighed and dumb.
There will be some bargain vets late. If the Kings want to kick the tires and can get a deal - Great. If not, more cap space for after the lockout … even better.

Trades: Unless, (1) somebody is giving a star/very good player away for money reasons with a one or two years left on a deal … kick the tires; or (2) you can make an otherwise good trade … I doubt anything we’ll see much action here. Nobody needs to go. Other than Beno, nobody is probably in the “We should trade him before his stock nosedives” camp. And I’m not sure Beno is there either. I doubt anybody is salivating to get Hawes or Garcia, so why dump them for 60 cents? Thus, I doubt we’ll be trade players. However, at the end of the summer, I could see the Kings making some trades to rent any cap space they don’t use. Ie – Sergio Rodriguez / Hilton Armstrong.
So I think it will be a pretty boring off-season, and that the right move.

IMO - Right now, you’ve got:
1. Reke. A legit ace.
2. A gaping hole for a second banana.
3. Landry is either the 3rd or 4th guy on a good team.
4. A need for a center with enough size and shot blocking to help cover for Landry.
5. I’d like a vet role player that’s good at setting up his teammates, but he doesn’t need to play the whole game – Doug ish 2-3

If the Kings get a top 2 pick. You’ve gone a long way to fixing 2 and 3.
To me Cousins, fixes 3 and 4 … but not 2.

Drafting another PF at 5-7 might be the right move … but probably doesn’t help my shopping list a ton.

I think they can dig somebody like item 5 out of the free agency bargain bin.


Even if you disagree with my assessment of the needs / draft candidates, logic says the right move is to draft the best player available and be prudent with the cap space.
 
Best I can do with the question:

If we draft (1) Wall, Turner, or the best player available, we should not misuse the cap space we waited 4 year to get or trade just to make a trade. The goal for next season is to add another good player via the draft, maybe grab a cheap vet late in free agency, and move another step forward in the long, hard, slow process of a proper rebuild.
 
If we draft _DeMarcus Cousins__ we should sign/trade __Joe Johnson_ and the goal for next season is to _Get to the 2nd round of the playoffs__.
 
Larry David said:
IMO - Right now, you’ve got:
1. Reke. A legit ace.
2. A gaping hole for a second banana.
3. Landry is either the 3rd or 4th guy on a good team.
4. A need for a center with enough size and shot blocking and rebounding to help cover for Landry.
5. I’d like a vet role player that’s good at setting up his teammates, but he doesn’t need to play the whole game – Doug ish 2-3
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Just wanted to add to #4
 
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