In the mid-1990's, Joe joined Gavin's hunt for a team. They did not care where it was or even what sport. (They nearly purchased the N.H.L.'s debt-ridden Tampa Bay Lightning.) ''I like anything, as long as there's a team,'' Joe said. They seemed willing to pay any price for an N.B.A. team. ''I wanted them back in the league, but they would sometimes get involved in situations that were not right for them,'' Stern said. ''Once I had to yell at them.''
Joe remembers it vividly. While he and Gavin were talking to the representatives of the Toronto Raptors, Joe stepped out of the room to take the commissioner's call. ''Then I went back in, white as a ghost, and whispered to Gavin, 'We got to get the hell out of here; David's really mad at us,''' Joe said. ''So we just split, left the guys right there.''