Fanhouse and Sam Amick on trade possibilities:

Agents seem to have a positive impact on their players' performance. Perhaps we should hire some agents to coach this team...
 
I didn't know The Kings could have had Beasley for basically nothing and didn't act on it. That really disgusts me. Shame on you, Maloofs! Big mistake. I also don't like hearing that they're open to trading Casspi if they can move Garcia. This frugal **** has to stop. Enough already.
 
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From a business perspective this makes perfect sense. You dont have a good product, your business is definitely gonna take a big hit with the lockout, you have an opportunity to minimize the damage economically while still maintaining your relatively cheap but potentially organization changers, and come back strong when the lockout is over with some key acquisitons from organizations who did not forward think to mitigate the economic blow and need to make a move, perhaps a move they dont want to make but are now compelled to do so due to damage control.
 
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From a business perspective this makes perfect sense. You dont have a good product, your business is definitely gonna take a big hit with the lockout, you have an opportunity to minimize the damage economically while still maintaining your relatively cheap but potentially organization changers, and come back strong when the lockout is over with some key acquisitons from organizations who did not forward think to mitigate the economic blow and need to make a move, perhaps a move they dont want to make but are now compelled to do so due to damage control.
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From a strictly business standpoint, I agree with this.

I am, however, somewhat torn on the Beasley issue addressed in this article. If the Kings had a chance to get a good talent for effectively a 2nd round pick (we can argue the 1st round one in a bit) then I think they should have taken it. Sure, Beasley may be a pain in the a** (according to some sources), but he is still a pretty good, young talent.

Combining him with a "volatile" Cousins may be a bad idea though.
 
JJ22L said:
From a strictly business standpoint, I agree with this.
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It's not even a good business move because it makes the business less attractive to the customers. It's a cheap move, nothing more. The worst case scenario was Beasley doesn't work out and you let him walk in two years when his rookie contract is up. It's not like they would have been taking on a Rashard Lewis type contract that would have handcuffed the team for years. Acquiring Beasley would have been a low risk/high potential reward scenario. Kahn recognized this. Perhaps Kahn isn't as dumb as many people seem to think.
 
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It's not even a good business move. It's a cheap move, nothing more. QUOTE]

And 10 years ago....heck 5 years ago, i agree with this...but not now, not in this uncertain economy....
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The economy is a poor excuse for billionaires to pass up taking on a two year rookie contract of a player that potentially could have made The Kings a significantly better team. If they're that timid about taking on even lower end salaries, then they should just sell the team to a Mark Cuban or Jerry Buss type that isn't afraid to spend money.
 
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The economy is a poor excuse for billionaires to pass up taking on a two year rookie contract of a player that potentially could have made The Kings a significantly better team. If they're that timid about taking on even lower end salaries, then they should just sell the team to a Mark Cuban or Jerry Buss type that isn't afraid to spend money.
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I'm with you. I've posted my opinion on this for almost 3 years. I think the owners are hurting financially and every move made is about cutting cost. I think they can disguise it as rebuilding but I wonder if and when they are actually going to invest in the team. Two years ago, it was for last summer. Then this one. I'm guessing the next line will be to wait until after the new cba. Now all of these delays can make good business sense, but only if you actually do invest at some point. If everyone else around you improves their teams and you wait, then its just cost cutting and putting out an inferior product.
 
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I'm with you. I've posted my opinion on this for almost 3 years. I think the owners are hurting financially and every move made is about cutting cost. I think they can disguise it as rebuilding but I wonder if and when they are actually going to invest in the team. Two years ago, it was for last summer. Then this one. I'm guessing the next line will be to wait until after the new cba. Now all of these delays can make good business sense, but only if you actually do invest at some point. If everyone else around you improves their teams and you wait, then its just cost cutting and putting out an inferior product.
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I can understand not taking on any large or long term contracts until they see what the CBA will be. But a two year rookie contract is another story. If you can acquire a 21 year old #2 pick with only two years on his contract for two 2nd round draft picks, you have to jump on that opportunity. Especially when you're a rebuilding team with tons of cap space. The fact that they didn't really makes me wonder if like you alluded to, they're just using the "rebuild" as a smokescreen.
 
the Kings had a chance to basically steal Michael Beasley from Miami in July, absorbing his rookie-scale contract ($4.9 million this season, $6.2 million next season and restricted free agency in the summer of 2012) in their salary cap room in the process while raising their talent pool by adding the No. 2 pick in the 2008 draft. Instead, they watched that train go by and saw him go to minnesota for a 2011 second-round pick and the rights to swap a first-round pick in the future.
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It's not just a 2nd round pick for Beaseley. The right to swap pick with the Heat is a hugey. Who is on board with swapping our 2011 first rounder with the Heat? The devil is in the details, depending on how protected the pick is.
 
Going after Beasley was discussed on this forum when Miami was looking for anyone to take him off their hands, and was systematically shot down by about 90% of the fans here.

It's always easy to criticize after the fact, but just about everyone here at the time felt adding his personality to this young team was too risky a risk to take.
 
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It's not just a 2nd round pick for Beaseley. The right to swap pick with the Heat is a hugey. Who is on board with swapping our 2011 first rounder with the Heat? The devil is in the details, depending on how protected the pick is.
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lol give em our top 5 pick for beastley. it smells like the trade the grizzlies did a while back where the pistons ended up w/ their second pick in the lebron draft.
 
rainmaker said:
Going after Beasley was discussed on this forum when Miami was looking for anyone to take him off their hands, and was systematically shot down by about 90% of the fans here.

It's always easy to criticize after the fact, but just about everyone here at the time felt adding his personality to this young team was too risky a risk to take.
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Yep. I was one of them. Still am. The guy had some serious mental issues. Cousins plus Beasley doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy at all.
 
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And yet most of the same folks were for drafting Cousins. Now that's funny!
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a) the problem is that once you have Cousins you CAN'T go add Beasely too -- the potential is jsut too toxic

b) and Beasely's problems are of a differnt nature. Drug use and an almost Artest like strangeness are nto something you add to a young team lightly, in particular a young team wiht a lot of young material stacked up at the positions the guy plays
 
Bricklayer said:
a) the problem is that once you have Cousins you CAN'T go add Beasely too -- the potential is jsut too toxic

b) and Beasely's problems are of a differnt nature. Drug use and an almost Artest like strangeness are nto something you add to a young team lightly, in particular a young team wiht a lot of young material stacked up at the positions the guy plays
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I think its a risk that could go either way and I understand the hesitancy to pull the trigger, but at that cost? Even if he's destructive, just send him away. Its two years at a relatively low deal.

The problem I have is that the team justifies every move they make (almost always cost cutting) or don't make as not wanting to handicap our salary posittion. This apparently applies to adding young talent and additional draft picks, as well as competent coaching. It has also led to selling off a decent number of talented, productive guys with nothing to show for it but salary cap room. Which can be huge. I am just less confident than most here that they actually plan to spend that money.
 
Bricklayer said:
a) the problem is that once you have Cousins you CAN'T go add Beasely too -- the potential is jsut too toxic

b) and Beasely's problems are of a differnt nature. Drug use and an almost Artest like strangeness are nto something you add to a young team lightly, in particular a young team wiht a lot of young material stacked up at the positions the guy plays
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So I take it you didn't like the idea of a roster consisting of DeMarcus, Tony Allen, Beasley, Ron Artest, and Gilbert Arenas?
 
RookieOfTheDay said:
The economy is a poor excuse for billionaires to pass up taking on a two year rookie contract of a player that potentially could have made The Kings a significantly better team. If they're that timid about taking on even lower end salaries, then they should just sell the team to a Mark Cuban or Jerry Buss type that isn't afraid to spend money.
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Well if the Maloofs were billionaires I would agree with you. But if you read the articles on the NBA fourm about a possible hostile take over of the Palms because of the Maloofs not repaying the loan on time, I'd say that they have serious financial concerns. As far as Casspi goes, Petrie has said he wants to keep him and said that it would have to be a very good deal and the other team would have to take back some salary. So it sounded to me that the only way they would move Casspi is if its for someone that they really want. Its all speculation of course.

Beasley is another matter. I wasn't that high on Beasley when he came out of college because I thought at the time he was a player without a true position. I said as much. I also said however, that if he ever figures out who he is as a player he could turn out to be very good. Frankly I always thought his best position was at SF, and now thats where he's playing. So he was a bit of a risk when he was traded, but in my opinion, a risk worth taking when you could have had him that cheap. Perhaps the Kings just didn't want to have two players they had to babysit.
 
I'm going to be extremely pissed if Landry isn't traded and then he walks at the end of the year. That will mean they gave Martin away for absolutely nothing.
 
Another article hear that says if they make a trade cutting costs will be the motive. http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/06/if-kings-make-trade-saving-money-will-be-motive/ Are the Maloofs really in such dire straits financially that they'd trade Casspi just to move Garcia and take back expiring contracts? If so, that's pathetic and they have no business owning an NBA team any longer. Garcia's contract ends in two years anyways. it's not like they owe him 50 million over 5 years or something.
 
Hmmm.

And where would we get the minutes to play Beasley to farther develop him?

LOL....fans are sometimes funny.

If it happened we added this crazy Beasley without getting rid of one of our BIGS or SF, I think Westphal could have been in a lot hotter spot. Play him at PF and the pro-thompson and Landry's fans will be complaining about their idols' diminished playing time for their development. Same goes with playing him at SF where the fans of Casspi and Greene will complain.
 
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