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Shopping season begins in the NBA
By Chris Sheridan

When the clock strikes midnight Wednesday, just about every NBA player becomes trade-eligible, and the general consensus is that deals will proceed faster than they did a year ago, when Dec. 15 was a dud in terms of trades.

"There seems to be a lot of movement right now. There are some teams trying to push things and make some deals," Suns general manager Bryan Colangelo said Tuesday night.

Under collective-bargaining rules, players who signed contracts over the summer are ineligible to be dealt for 90 days after they signed or until Dec. 15 -- whichever is later. That means a handful of signings that seemed to make sense at the time -- Earl Watson signing with Denver, Arvydas Macijauskas joining the Hornets, Jerome James bringing his enlarged frame to New York -- can now be put in the past. All it will take is the right match between two willing partners.

"As a businessperson who knows my job, a person who is educated on what I do, the 15th is an important date for me, so I'm very much aware of it," said Watson, who it seemed was being showcased Tuesday night, making three 3-pointers and a dunk in the fourth quarter of Denver's 99-87 victory at Charlotte.

Watson signed a five-year contract for the Nuggets' full mid-level exception last summer, but Denver coach George Karl has had little use for him, playing him only 14 minutes per game and holding him out of nine of the Nuggets' 21 games. New York has offered forward Malik Rose, but Denver general manager Kiki Vandeweghe is likely to find a more appealing offer from a team who feels Watson can become a latter-day Eric Snow -- a heady, defense-minded point guard who feels he's ready to become an everyday contributor rather than being stuck as a career backup.

With many teams searching for size, there has been a keen focus on the threesome of bigs -- Corliss Williamson, Brian Skinner and Kenny Thomas -- that the Sacramento Kings received from Philadelphia in last season's Chris Webber trade. Many sources believe Thomas is the most likely to be moved, and several pro-personnel types were in attendance Saturday night in Seattle as Thomas played a mundane 17-minute stint, shooting just 1-of-3 with one rebound. The 6-7 forward, who makes $6.5 million, is under contract for four more seasons. Williamson has only one season remaining, while Skinner has two. Kings president Geoff Petrie is seeking scoring off the bench.

Elsewhere, two teams mentioned by several league sources as the most likely to pull the trigger soon are the New Jersey Nets and Washington Wizards.

Nets president Rod Thorn would like to upgrade the power-forward position for an underachieving team that lost by 20 points at Washington on Wednesday night. He has been shopping third-string point guard Zoran Planinic and a pair of first-round picks (the Nets' own and the Clippers'), and the arrival of Dec. 15 will allow him to package one or more of the spare parts (Lamond Murray, Scott Padgett, Jeff McInnis) that New Jersey signed over the summer.

Washington would like to acquire someone to take some defensive heat off Gilbert Arenas, who is running up against the opponent's best defender on a night-in, night-out basis now that other teams no longer have to worry about Larry Hughes. Antonio Daniels, signed as a free agent in the offseason, is averaging only 4.7 points on 30 percent shooting. He will now become eligible to be traded, and the Wizards may try to find him a new home more suited to his strengths as a ballhandler and offensive initiator. Another Washington guard, Chucky Atkins, has formally requested a trade.

The pace of Dec. 15-related activity likely will be affected by the Indiana Pacers, as they sort through more than a dozen offers that have come in since the start of the week when they announced they would trade Ron Artest. Until the other 29 teams know where Artest is headed, some will hold off on making other deals.
Sacramento, for instance, could hold off on a Thomas or Skinner trade if it believes it has a viable shot at acquiring Artest. Petrie, aghast at the Kings' poor start before they put together their current three-game winning streak, has been exploring all of his options, including deals involving Peja Stojakovic, who will be an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season heading into a summer in which teams with significant cap space will have very few impact players to bid on. Stojakovic's asking price likely will be $12 million or more, and the Kings will have to make a judgment about whether Peja is worth the price. If they decide he isn't, they may trade him sooner rather than later -- especially if the Artest situation impacts their choices.

The Chicago Bulls are widely seen as Stojakovic's most likely next destination, but any team that acquired Peja during this season would also get his "Larry Bird rights" -- which means that team would have the opportunity to re-sign the 28-year-old, even if it meant going over the usual salary-cap limits.

If Chicago fears that another team will acquire Stojakovic and effectively take him off next summer's market, the best time might be now to put together a package (Luol Deng, Tim Thomas and draft picks) that would be more appealing to the Kings than a straight-up swap for Artest.

Stojakovic's countryman, Vladimir Radmanovic of the SuperSonics, likely will stay put in Seattle. After signing a one-year tender, he has the right to veto any trade. If he were to accept a trade, he'd forfeit his Bird rights and would be prevented from re-signing with the team that acquired him if it were over the $49.5 million salary cap. Radmanovic likely would only accept a trade to a team that will be substantially below the cap next summer (Clippers, Bulls).

His teammate in Seattle, Ronald Murray, has been mentioned as a candidate for a trade to the Nuggets. He also would have to forfeit his Bird rights, but Denver would be able to re-sign him for any amount up to next season's mid-level exception. But because Murray didn't sign until Sept. 27, he will not become trade-eligible until Dec. 26.

A few other players around the league will remain ineligible to be traded until 90 days elapse from the date they signed. Among them are Miami's Gary Payton (eligible Dec. 21), Chicago's Darius Songaila (Dec. 22), Orlando's Bo Outlaw (Dec. 28), Charlotte's Keith Bogans (Dec. 29) and Miami's Jason Kapono (Jan. 2).

Of course, there's always a chance that this Dec. 15 will be another dud, coming and going without any deals. That's what happened last season, but the calm was loudly shattered two days later when New Jersey pulled off its trade for Vince Carter.

This season, however, there seems to be a consensus that teams are a little more eager to deal.
 
Today I'd rather see us use Peja for Deng and try to get some bench help using KT, etc.

Tomorrow I might just jump back on the Artest bandwagon...
 
GEOFF IS A MADMAN!
and there is no way to predict what sort of deals he may or may not have... it makes my head spin just thinking about it... any deal imaginable is a possibility with this guy... one thing, the deals will be well thought out and well researched if there is any deal at all...
 
ForlornKing said:
ooooohhhh And the offers come flying in for KT after a 1 of 3 night!

we won't get any offers. We have to offer and find someone more desperate than we are
 
I do have one prediction... though it is completely useless as Geoff is a Madman; here goes:

I am going to predict Geoff will in fact make at least one trade and he will trade whomever for a player(s) that can help the Kings win now. I don't think he will take on any project players or draft picks. If Geoff wants to save his good friend Rick's job, he will need to bring in a player(s) who are ready to play in the NBA on a high level. That's my prediction.
 
i would attach KT to Peja's left hip and send them both packing. How about Deng and Ben Gordon? I doubt the Knicks would give up Frye but perhaps Jamal Crawford and David Lee in a three way with Indiana.
 
I'd LOVE to see something like this (instead of Artest), if Peja is going bye-bye and won't be re-signed to a "reasonable" contract.
 
Gtronic said:
How does Deng look? I keep seeing his name come up, but have never seen him play.

he looks great. young, athletic, potent on offense, capable on defense, still much to learn, but great potential on top of an existing skill set. peja for deng would be a winner in my book.
 
Padrino said:
he looks great. young, athletic, potent on offense, capable on defense, still much to learn, but great potential on top of an existing skill set. peja for deng would be a winner in my book.

I'm not quite as sold on Deng. He's not that athletic for a 3, and while he's ok on defense and he's a good rebounder I think it would be a big step down from Peja.
 
nbrans said:
I'm not quite as sold on Deng. He's not that athletic for a 3, and while he's ok on defense and he's a good rebounder I think it would be a big step down from Peja.

I am a big Pedja fan. I watched almost every Bulls game in the last two years (unless it is overlapping with Kings games). Deng is already better then Pedja. He is deceptively athletic. 6'10'' with good hops. Developing a very nice jumper. Hustler and diver. Has no confidence issues (missed a game tying 3pt last night in dying seconds when play that was drawn for Heinrich was broken). He had a nice streak of 20-10 games broken last night, so he is still incosistent due to the lack of expirience. As the character goes, this guy is solid gold. Will be a perenial all star. Can play (and defend) 2, 3 and some 4.

If Bulls send him to Sacramento for Pedja, Petrie will be genius again and Paxson will start his way towards the exit door.
 
Hey, I'd love either Peja for Deng or Peja for Artest... for obvious reasons. :)

A few other players around the league will remain ineligible to be traded until 90 days elapse from the date they signed. Among them are Miami's Gary Payton (eligible Dec. 21), Chicago's Darius Songaila (Dec. 22), Orlando's Bo Outlaw (Dec. 28), Charlotte's Keith Bogans (Dec. 29) and Miami's Jason Kapono (Jan. 2).

One of the guys in bold would def. help our bench...


Intriguing to read this stuff.
 
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Our starting five have been playing extremely well the last few games, and Peja has been showing signs of life...

However, I'm not sure either if he's worth $12mil a year to keep him around after this season ...

Glad I'm not the one making the decision :)
 
Maybe some interest in the not so Big Three

Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere. I only saw the part about Deng listed on this board, not the other three.

Chris Sheridan of ESPN reports that there may be some interest in our Webber 3. Although not specific about where they might be going, or who might be coming in return, he does say that there were several pro scouts in attendance at Seattle to watch them.

"With many teams searching for size, there has been a keen focus on the threesome of bigs -- Corliss Williamson, Brian Skinner and Kenny Thomas -- that the Sacramento Kings received from Philadelphia in last season's Chris Webber trade. Many sources believe Thomas is the most likely to be moved, and several pro-personnel types were in attendance Saturday night in Seattle as Thomas played a mundane 17-minute stint, shooting just 1-of-3 with one rebound. The 6-7 forward, who makes $6.5 million, is under contract for four more seasons. Williamson has only one season remaining, while Skinner has two. Kings president Geoff Petrie is seeking scoring off the bench....

If Chicago fears that another team will acquire Stojakovic and effectively take him off next summer's market, the best time might be now to put together a package (Luol Deng, Tim Thomas and draft picks) that would be more appealing to the Kings than a straight-up swap for Artest."
 
i read that two...and thats why i think peja is going to bulls more likely than to the pacers...
 
You've got to think that Petrie knows exactly what Peja is going to ask for this offseason and if it's a max deal then it won't take him by surpirse at all. If it is a max deal he thinks he can get then send him on his way. Peja is a good player, but there is no way that he is a max guy who would handcuff this franchise for years to come.
 
Diabeticwonder said:
You've got to think that Petrie knows exactly what Peja is going to ask for this offseason and if it's a max deal then it won't take him by surpirse at all. If it is a max deal he thinks he can get then send him on his way. Peja is a good player, but there is no way that he is a max guy who would handcuff this franchise for years to come.

Pedja will not get a max.

His agent is not stupid. However, he will try to get as much, as possible.
 
nbrans said:
I'm not quite as sold on Deng. He's not that athletic for a 3, and while he's ok on defense and he's a good rebounder I think it would be a big step down from Peja.

Actually if Deng can score in the 2nd half I think it's a step up.
 
Variant said:
Our starting five have been playing extremely well the last few games, and Peja has been showing signs of life...

However, I'm not sure either if he's worth $12mil a year to keep him around after this season ...

Glad I'm not the one making the decision :)

There's no way Peja's worth $12 million a year. He isn't anywhere near a complete player, he doesn't consistently hustle, and most importantly, he disappears in the 4th!

I'm starting to like Deng. The kid has been averaging 19 ppg and 8 boards over the last few weeks, he also hustles all over the floor.
 
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