ESPN reporting Casspi to sign one-year deal (updated title)

I appreciated his game but man was he a pita. Not a Jimmer level pain, but still.

I don't know how many roster spots we have but I think we should be signing Moreland and Brooks before Casspi. If we somehow ditch Landry and Outlaw I'd be for it. I guess I'd consider D-Will a wash, though he wouldn't bring the fanatics out there (hell, I may be the closest think to a D-Will fanatic this board has seen, being a UA fan).
 
The Kings need players better than Omri Casspi. Nothing against him personally but we need much better talent on the roster - not more basically mediocre types. Next we'll hear that Cisco Garcia wants to come back to Kings - not!
 
The Kings need players better than Omri Casspi. Nothing against him personally we need much better talent on the roster - not more basically mediocre types. Next we'll hear that Cisco Garcia wants to come back to Kings - not!

Sure, but when you're talking about signing someone for the vet min to play backup SF, why not?

As I posted earlier in this thread, the talent upgrade seems likely to come in the form of a big, and the way to do it at this point is likely to trade out the expirings (Williams, Outlaw, Terry) and/or Thompson for someone who is talented but signed to a "bad" deal (like Gay was). Then you fill in the roster spots with guys like Casspi.
 
The Kings need players better than Omri Casspi. Nothing against him personally but we need much better talent on the roster - not more basically mediocre types. Next we'll hear that Cisco Garcia wants to come back to Kings - not!
If we trade a lot of our junk away for a Josh Smith (I know, probably not happening) or Larry Sanders we're going to need back up players. Obviously there's no need for him with the roster we have assembled but if we move 5 guys out to bring in one talented player on a bad contract, that's where an Omri comes in handy. If he is cheap.
 
http://www.sacbee.com/2014/07/22/6575199/ailene-voisin-former-king-omri.html



He's supposedly going to be released very soon. We do need a backup SF for a couple min a night.


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I don't understand the hate for Casspi here. He only spoke out in public what a lot were feeling privately. The team and coaching was a mess and everyone (including hm) was misused and given mixed messages. I think he would fit well into Malone's system. The only issue is cap and roster space.
 
omri casspi is another classic example; he could function as a serviceable utility forward on just about any nba team, but his attitude keeps him from sticking anywhere. it'll be five teams in five years once he signs somewhere, unless he returns to the kings, in which case it's four teams in five years and a second chance on one of them. that said, he'd need to come [back] to sacramento considerably more humble than he left it, otherwise, i'd pass...
So does his lack of improvement. Still a terrible ball-handler, still a funky release on his shot(either hot or cold), still not a good passer and still not a plus on the defensive end.

Really, he looks largely the same player who came into the league.
 
I don't understand the hate for Casspi here. He only spoke out in public what a lot were feeling privately. The team and coaching was a mess and everyone (including hm) was misused and given mixed messages. I think he would fit well into Malone's system. The only issue is cap and roster space.

has nothing to do with anything he ever said. I hated watching him play here and always wanted him gone. Much like Garcia
 
I don't understand the hate for Casspi here. He only spoke out in public what a lot were feeling privately. The team and coaching was a mess and everyone (including hm) was misused and given mixed messages. I think he would fit well into Malone's system. The only issue is cap and roster space.

STOP using word HATE when it's not necessary and is simply inaccurate. You can't disagree around here about some player without being branded hater? That's just stupid or thin skin or something?! It's too often a cop out word and thrown around way too carelessly and confrontationally.
 
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Woah. Did anyone actually see Omri play last year? Doesn't seem like it. Was very solid in a back-up role for Houston. Rebounded well, spaced the floor decently, and even created a little bit. I'd much rather have him over D-will at this point, especially at minimum contract value.

Most people seem hung up on Omri when he was here and "discontent". Wouldn't mind this signing at all.
 
Woah. Did anyone actually see Omri play last year? Doesn't seem like it. Was very solid in a back-up role for Houston. Rebounded well, spaced the floor decently, and even created a little bit. I'd much rather have him over D-will at this point, especially at minimum contract value.

Most people seem hung up on Omri when he was here and "discontent". Wouldn't mind this signing at all.

I wouldn't mind the signing per se but at a certain point don't we have to clear out some of the roster?

I mean honestly, right now the Kings have two starting caliber players on a good team in Gay and Cousins. We have two decent to good backup level PGs in MacCallum and Collison, an athletically limited rookie and a BBIQ limited second year man at SG, and a collection of bench PFs in Thompson, Landry and Evans. And then there's Derrick Williams, Jason Terry and Travis Outlaw.

Could Casspi back up Gay? Sure. He could even play SF when the Kings move Gay to PF in a small ball lineup to space the floor for Cuz. I have no issue with that. Where I have the issue is potentially not picking up Acy's option or not signing Moreland to bring Casspi aboard.

Trade one of Landry or Thompson (preferably Landry though PDA feels the opposite I'm afraid) and make a trade with any or all of the expiring contracts of Williams, Outlaw, Evans and Terry to clear some roster space, get back some talent (from a team looking to dump salary) and balance the team.

For me this isn't about Casspi per se. It's about collecting mediocre and repetitive talent that doesn't address any real team needs all while having a luxury tax level payroll.
 
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If we do claim him off waivers, I won't have a problem with it. I have no doubts PDA is getting ready to do some more roster garage sales.
 
Omri Casspi has already publicly expressed interest in returning to Kings and word is Sacramento is planning to put in a waiver claim on him

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/492060992265007104

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Well, if Marc Stein reported it, it's probably not happening.

NBA Reporters who break Kings news accuracy ranking:
1. Woj (arena news excluded)
2. Marc Spears
3. Jason Jones (But only because, by the time he reports it, the news is old hat)
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10. Ailene Voison (occasionally good for news but sometimes prone to giving in to her crushes on players and their rippling biceps)
11. Marc Stein
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181. Chad Ford
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203. A cucumber.
204. Sam Amico
 
Well, if Marc Stein reported it, it's probably not happening.

NBA Reporters who break Kings news accuracy ranking:
1. Woj (arena news excluded)
2. Marc Spears
3. Jason Jones (But only because, by the time he reports it, the news is old hat)
...
...
10. Ailene Voison (occasionally good for news but sometimes prone to giving in to her crushes on players and their rippling biceps)
11. Marc Stein
...
...
181. Chad Ford
...
203. A cucumber.
204. Sam Amico

You forgot Kingsfans1140 at number 5.
 
I wouldn't mind the signing per se but at a certain point don't we have to clear out some of the roster?

I mean honestly, right now the Kings have two starting caliber players on a good team in Gay and Cousins. We have two decent to good backup level PGs in MacCallum and Collison, an athletically limited rookie and a BBIQ limited second year man at SG, and a collection of bench PFs in Thompson, Landry and Evans. And then there's Derrick Williams, Jason Terry and Travis Outlaw.

Could Casspi back up Gay? Sure. He could even play SF when the Kings move Gay to PF in a small ball lineup to space the floor for Cuz. I have no issue with that. Where I have the issue is potentially not picking up Acy's option or not signing Moreland to bring Casspi aboard.

Trade one of Landry or Thompson (preferably Landry though PDA feels the opposite I'm afraid) and make a trade with any or all of the expiring contracts of Williams, Outlaw, Evans and Terry to clear some roster space, get back some talent (from a team looking to dump salary) and balance the team.

For me this isn't about Casspi per se. It's about collecting mediocre and repetitive talent that doesn't address any real team needs.

This is where there's often a huge discontent with fans. It's simply not that easy to make a trade, especially with guys who's value going into the year are so low. We very likely will need to hang on to Landry this season and hope he is his GSW self. 2 years of GSW Landry is much easier for teams to swallow than 3 years of coming off an injury Landry.

And Casspi isn't repetitive at all. If anything, Acy is the repetitive talent when Reggie Evans does Quincy Acy a lot better than Quincy Acy does. And the fact we just seemingly found the perfect 5th big in Moreland to spend a year developing only puts a clock on Acy.

Casspi is a much better fit around Gay and Cousins. He's comfortable spot-up shooting, he's a better defender than D-Will and Outlaw and most importantly, he's a guy who can contribute on the floor when he's not getting shots. Our floor spacing is going to be very key to our success this season.
 
Darn. I wouldn't want Omri for free let alone giving Acy up. Nothing to do with his skills and everything to do with his attitude. I hope Cousins dunks on him every day in practice. I won't ever forget how he left Sacramento when he was moaning and groaning to anyone in this country or his home one.
 
If we do claim him off waivers, I won't have a problem with it. I have no doubts PDA is getting ready to do some more roster garage sales.

I'm guessing you believe he'll be hosting them?

Because assuming Casspi is signed and the Kings either pick up Acy's option or sign Moreland the roster will be at 14 players and the payroll will be at the luxury tax threshold.
 
This is where there's often a huge discontent with fans. It's simply not that easy to make a trade, especially with guys who's value going into the year are so low. We very likely will need to hang on to Landry this season and hope he is his GSW self. 2 years of GSW Landry is much easier for teams to swallow than 3 years of coming off an injury Landry.

And Casspi isn't repetitive at all. If anything, Acy is the repetitive talent when Reggie Evans does Quincy Acy a lot better than Quincy Acy does. And the fact we just seemingly found the perfect 5th big in Moreland to spend a year developing only puts a clock on Acy.

Casspi is a much better fit around Gay and Cousins. He's comfortable spot-up shooting, he's a better defender than D-Will and Outlaw and most importantly, he's a guy who can contribute on the floor when he's not getting shots. Our floor spacing is going to be very key to our success this season.

Agree to disagree on Casspi. He put up virtually the same numbers as Outlaw both per game and per minute. And neither is any good defensively. Outlaw was even a slightly better 3pt shooter.

And obviously it takes two to make a trade. No need to talk down to me. But ending contracts should be able to net a productive player from a team that is looking to open up cap space. Unfortunately probably not during the summer so much as at the deadline, but nevertheless.

As for Landry, the fact that he will be so hard to move is yet another indictment of the signing in the first place. And I don't think that really has much to do with the injury as I doubt the market for Carl expands even when he gets regular minutes and puts up the same kind of numbers he always has. The market is poor for Landry because he's a limited player who is overpaid. And the Kings will likely deal a much more valuable and versatile (not to mention lower paid) player in Thompson to make room for him.

It's hard for me to buy the argument that D'Alessandro can't trade guys away because they are guys no one wants when he's brought the majority of the players on the roster in. The only Maloof era players left on the roster are JT, Boogie and Outlaw. PDA made the choice not to rebuild but instead to try to retool on the fly and win now. I think so far he's failed at both and we will likely end up having to rebuild anyway. Here's to hoping I'm wrong.
 
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