Emeka Okafor

Boogie-havoc · Dec 20, 2011

Well, after Chuckwagon failed his medical, I think our best bet is to try and nab Emeka Okafor's contract off the Hornets and more importently the leagues' hands.

I really, really don't want to see Dally back - I do not for one second trust him enough to keep going and trying hard after his final payday, and think although he's a positive guy in general, he is not the type of guy our bigs should look after, and think he will bail on us and won't really give a damn once he signs that deal.

The league surely has to see Okafor's contract as a negetive one with 40mil over the next 3 years, as they try to shed thier payroll and rebuild... we could prolly get him for a ripoff price, and I think he would be a better option then Dally would.

What do you think it would take to get him?

RookieOfTheDay · Dec 20, 2011

I agree about Dalembert. I bet he's going to be back though. He shot himself in the foot and now he has no choice but to play for the MLE somewhere or take what the Kings offer. I predict he'll sign with the Kings for 6-8$ million but will come back bitter and disgruntled. Okafor is definitely overpaid but I honestly think I'd rather have him even at the cost. He's a better all around player than Dalembert and is a little younger too.

Showtime · Dec 20, 2011

Boogie-havoc said:

You admit he's overpaid, and then say the team would get him at a "rip off price". That doesn't make sense.

I've watched him a lot with the hornets, and he's not going to make this team better. Offensively, he's worse than Dalembert, and defensively, he's not better either (yet gets paid far more). He's undersized at C, and often couldn't handle physical larger guys like the lakers frontline (leading to Gray actually making a better impact, as Oak would get in foul trouble). I actually like Aaron Gray, but he went to the raptors. Haddadi is another big body option down low to stack the paint. The kings wanted no part of Nene or Gasol, and that was their biggest mistake IMO. If they wanted to make a big free agent move, they totally missed the boat on this one.

RookieOfTheDay · Dec 20, 2011

Showtime said:

how do you figure?

NoBonus · Dec 20, 2011

Could the Kings Amnesty Okafor next season if needed?

Showtime · Dec 20, 2011

RookieOfTheDay said:

Last season Dally was the best offensively I've ever seen him. Oakfor is a poorer shooter, doesn't create that well for himself on the block (he has his moments, but they are few and far between now), and has poor hands. Now, he's obviously not there for offense, so that's not that big of a deal, but it does exacerbate his contract situation since he would only be relevant on one side of the court.

NoBonus · Dec 20, 2011

Showtime said:

Both those dudes signed with their own original teams for options better than the Kings could have provided... it's part of the new CBA to help teams keep their players... Even if the Kings wanted these guys, they could not have pulled it off anyway.

RookieOfTheDay · Dec 20, 2011

NoBonus said:

They may have been able to pull it off but it would have took grossly overpaying them, like 18$ million range to do it. Not worth it. Those guys are good but not THAT good.

Capt. Factorial · Dec 20, 2011

NoBonus said:

No. Teams can only apply an amnesty to a contract that they held at the time that the CBA was put into effect. No subsequently signed contracts or traded contracts may be amnestied.

Capt. Factorial · Dec 20, 2011

Showtime said:

How do you know we wanted no part of Nene or Gasol? Maybe Nene and Gasol wanted no part of us.

beb0p · Dec 20, 2011

Boogie-havoc said:

The Hornets are far enough under the cap next season that Okafor's contract shouldn't be that big of a concern. If anything, they probably need his contract next season just to stay above the minimum salary.

Kaman is most likely the guy that they do want to trade. Seeing that he has a 99% chance of leaving New Orleans in the summer. But I think you have to wait a bit before he can be traded.

I don't really want Kaman. Mostly because of his very breakable body.

On the other hand, the Hornets need better wings. If they take Salmons for Kaman, I'm game! If only to get rid of Salmons.

sidney · Dec 22, 2011

If anything was learned from the Chris Paul trade debacle and Carl Landry signing, it's that Stern and co is looking for young talent, picks, and lower long term financial commitment in order to set up a Hornets sale this year.

So:
JT (restricted next summer)
Donte (restricted next summer)
Garcia (2 years remaining)
2012 2nd

for Okafor

Outgoing: 10.5M
Incoming: 12.5M

We're currently 3M under the minimum so this puts us right about at the line, maybe with another vet min contract or two to fill roster spots. I would think something like this may be in line with what the Hornets are looking for.

cuad · Dec 22, 2011

I think that's over paying for Okafor.

Section 101 · Dec 22, 2011

sidney said:

If anything was learned from the Chris Paul trade debacle and Carl Landry signing, it's that Stern and co is looking for young talent, picks, and lower long term financial commitment in order to set up a Hornets sale this year.

So:
JT (restricted next summer)
Donte (restricted next summer)
Garcia (2 years remaining)
2012 2nd

for Okafor

Outgoing: 10.5M
Incoming: 12.5M

We're currently 3M under the minimum so this puts us right about at the line, maybe with another vet min contract or two to fill roster spots. I would think something like this may be in line with what the Hornets are looking for.

If you trade for Okafor it should be straight up for cap space. It gives the Hornets flexibility for the new owner.

Bricklayer · Dec 22, 2011

Gotta be careful -- Stern is wiley and holds vast unfathomable powers. Next thing you know you've included Reke or Boogie in the deal and don't even know why.

sidney · Dec 22, 2011

Bricklayer said:

"These aren't the droids you are looking for..." and all that, but still think Stern would be into something like this. Cap space, 2 more young players that are restricted next year is perfect for new ownership...all for the price of that defensive shotblocking rebounding veteran center that we need.

Add any big to our rotation and JT gets little to no minutes. I doubt Donte is going to see the floor much at all this year behind Salmons and Outlaw not to mention Honeycutt

K F Jay · Jan 6, 2012

With Hayes injured nows our chance to pounce! Will NO want Salmons and Hickson

twslam07 · Jan 7, 2012

K F Jay said:

Not so sure. They have Gordon, Bellinelli, and Henry at SG and Ariza and Aminu at SF. I'm not sure where they would fit Salmons in that rotation.

Hickson would fit nicely though. Kaman, Landry, and Hickson rotation wouldn't be too bad.

NO was looking to trade Okafor for cap relief and I'm not sure including Salmons would accomplish that.

steelevt · Mar 12, 2012

Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO

"Cavs will stay in touch w/Hornets however. Hornets said to still be entertaining offers for either of 2 first rounders to dump Okafor deal"

Reviving this thread due to this rumor. Jt and jj for okafor and a first rounder? Works on espn trade machine.

We get a defensive minded big next to cousins. I believe his contract will run out by the time Evans is due. Plus another first rounder
Hornets get to dump okafor's contract, get 2 enders and can keep either big if they wanted

Kings Faithful · Mar 12, 2012

steelevt said:

Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO

"Cavs will stay in touch w/Hornets however. Hornets said to still be entertaining offers for either of 2 first rounders to dump Okafor deal"

Reviving this thread due to this rumor. Jt and jj for okafor and a first rounder? Works on espn trade machine.

We get a defensive minded big next to cousins. I believe his contract will run out by the time Evans is due. Plus another first rounder
Hornets get to dump okafor's contract, get 2 enders and can keep either big if they wanted

The hornets are willing to give up a first rounder with Okafor? How bad is his deal?

TTown Kings · Mar 12, 2012

something like 13.5 next year and 14.5 the year after that. He does expire before Reke would be due for an extension. This trade makes a lot of sense for us. He'd give us something closer to what we had with Sam and we'd also get another lotto pick in this years draft. Petrie better be all over this.

Hadlowe · Mar 12, 2012

The question is which piece(s) would the Hornets (read Stern) pry out of our hides for this? If it's Cousins, no deal. I can't imagine them wanting Thornton back after his problems with the coach and his contract. Reke is miles better than Okafor, but there are a few guys at the top end of this draft that are better than either.

Reke for Okafor and first-round pick. Yeah, I'd probably do that. You can throw in Hickson or Greene as freebies there. If Hornets finish out the rest of the season the way they're going right now, we would have two shots at Davis, and probably Henson and MKG as consolation prizes.

I should add that this would provide the added bonus of effectively ending small ball. I don't want to give up Tyreke, but this is as close to the Davis pick as we're likely to get.

TTown Kings · Mar 12, 2012

It's a reported salary dump. All that is said to be wanted in return is expirings. Something like JJ, JT and Donte for Okafor and a #1 (Minnesota's, probably be borderline lottery pick#12-#15). We wouldn't need to give up much, certainly not Tyreke or anything silly like that.

Hadlowe · Mar 12, 2012

TTown Kings said:

If we could give up those three and get the Hornets' pick, I'd do it. For Minnesota's pick, I would be a little hesitant. That's a lot of salary to tie up in a role-player. Of course, this is all assuming that the Maloofs would be willing to fork out the cash for the deal.

bluntsnbball · Mar 12, 2012

Hadlowe said:

Reke for Oakafor? Helllllllll no. Oakafor is like a taller Hayes without the leadership skills. Hes an overpaid one dimensional player. He fits the mold of a player that this team could use however, but he's not even close to worth our 2nd best player. if we could get him for little, then great. If new orleans wants a lot, let em keep him b/c he can play d, but hes a scrub IMO.

Only if that 1st round pick was in the 1-3 range. Im not on board with this b/c we just dont really need 2 first rounder b/c this team has too much youth as it is. we dont need more kids, we need vets now.

upinsmoke · Mar 12, 2012

Sounds to good to be true but no question the maloofs & Stern have gotten to know each other now more than ever.

KevinSalvadori · Mar 14, 2012

upinsmoke said:

I actually can see this happening, as one of three deals we make. Yes, three.

DEAL ONE: Hickson and Garcia for Okafor.

DEAL TWO: JT and Evans for Rondo.

DEAL THREE: Fredette for Brewer.

We take a hit on our depth but instantly improve the starting lineup with round pegs in round holes.

Starting 5:
C: Cousins
PF: Okafor
SF: Brewer
PG: Rondo
SG: Thornton
------------
6: Hayes, C/PF
7: Thomas, PG
8: Greene, PF/SF
9: Salmons, SG/SF
10: Outlaw, SF
11: Whiteside, C
12: Honeycutt, SF

More veteran, and more balanced team.

UK_King · Mar 14, 2012

I don't see us taking on more salary some how.

Yocrunch · Mar 14, 2012

KevinSalvadori said:

I actually can see this happening, as one of three deals we make. Yes, three.

DEAL ONE: Hickson and Garcia for Okafor.

DEAL TWO: JT and Evans for Rondo.

DEAL THREE: Fredette for Brewer.

We take a hit on our depth but instantly improve the starting lineup with round pegs in round holes.

Starting 5:
C: Cousins
PF: Okafor
SF: Brewer
PG: Rondo
SG: Thornton
------------
6: Hayes, C/PF
7: Thomas, PG
8: Greene, PF/SF
9: Salmons, SG/SF
10: Outlaw, SF
11: Whiteside, C
12: Honeycutt, SF

More veteran, and more balanced team.

awful

Mass · Mar 14, 2012

KevinSalvadori said:

I actually can see this happening, as one of three deals we make. Yes, three.

DEAL ONE: Hickson and Garcia for Okafor.

DEAL TWO: JT and Evans for Rondo.

DEAL THREE: Fredette for Brewer.

We take a hit on our depth but instantly improve the starting lineup with round pegs in round holes.

Starting 5:
C: Cousins
PF: Okafor
SF: Brewer
PG: Rondo
SG: Thornton
------------
6: Hayes, C/PF
7: Thomas, PG
8: Greene, PF/SF
9: Salmons, SG/SF
10: Outlaw, SF
11: Whiteside, C
12: Honeycutt, SF

More veteran, and more balanced team.

I'm ok with deal one, absolutely not with deal 2 and 3.

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