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according to hoopshype.com, eddy curry's agent is requesting a sign and trade from the bulls... the bulls do not want to give curry more that the one year tender offer for free agents, because of the heart scare he had last year... apparently no insurance company would insure him until he plays one year without any heart problems... but, he has been cleared by his cardiologist to play... apperently New York and the Lakers are interested....

question here, should petrie take the risk of doing a sign and trade for eddy curry... he would probably require a minimum 4-5 year/$40mil contract to accept a sign and trade... if the kings could package maybe Kenny Thomas, Darius Songaila and a 1st round draft pick for Eddy Curry, would you do it?
 
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I'm glad you didn't say, "In a heartbeat."

It would be sort of like the Lakers taking on Kwame Brown, a relatively low-risk move with a potentially high payoff. Of course, if Curry couldn't play long-term, the Kings would suddenly be awfully thin up front.

I just hope Curry and his handlers are actually hearing everything the doctors have to say, rather than just what they want to hear. I'd hate to see this turn into a Hank Gathers-like situation.
 
thedofd said:
I just hope Curry and his handlers are actually hearing everything the doctors have to say, rather than just what they want to hear. I'd hate to see this turn into a Hank Gathers-like situation.
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i think this is the reason why chicago is hesitant to give more than the 1 year tender deal... if he really does have a heart problem, then you run the risk of locking in $40-50mil on a player that may not be able to play... IF he stays healthy, he would be a steal... but IF his heart problem arises again, then you are stuck with a big contract and no salary cap space...

it would be a calculated risk for any team at this point....
 
The bulls are a young team, so their management is thinking more long term. Even if Eddy doesnt have problems his first year, his subsequent years could be troublesome, and end his career very early. The Kings are in a weird transition, and still trying to hold on to a top spot. It may be worth the risk for our team, but I can't see Petrie doing anything with this.
 
Songaila - Thomas and a 1st Round Draft Pick ???

That's an awful lot for a "questionable" career .... despite what his cardiologist says.

With the "speculation" of a 4/5 multi-year contract @40mill ... I'd say no

If a "performance contract" can be worked to sign for 1-year with an option for 3/4 more years based upon COMPLETION with good/excellent health/heart conditions for that 1-year ...

ABSOLUTELY

King's are already taking a chance with Rahim and his knee ...
On top of that ... King's history of finishing a season HEALTHY are poor

my 2-cents ...
 
Folsom Al said:
Songaila - Thomas and a 1st Round Draft Pick ???

That's an awful lot for a "questionable" career .... despite what his cardiologist says.

With the "speculation" of a 4/5 multi-year contract @40mill ... I'd say no

If a "performance contract" can be worked to sign for 1-year with an option for 3/4 more years based upon COMPLETION with good/excellent health/heart conditions for that 1-year ...

ABSOLUTELY

King's are already taking a chance with Rahim and his knee ...
On top of that ... King's history of finishing a season HEALTHY are poor

my 2-cents ...
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we would basically get him for thomas and a 1st round pick, because we were going to lose songaila for nothing, since the bulls were to sign him as a free agent anyways...

also, any "performance" contract would not entice curry to change teams... the bulls probably tried that already, but curry turned it down... he wants security and a guraenteed contract... he would not change teams for the same deal he turned down from the bulls already...
 
Folsom, it's essentially Thomas for Eddy Curry. I think that's an easy trade. It seems like were not signing Songalia and if our team adds Curry our potential for a good first round pick is pretty low, so I don't see how we can lose. Kenny Thomas is a good player, but Eddy is a much better option with much greater upside.
 
Although I would love to get Curry, sounds like he is not willing to "prove" that he can play in the NBA (health wise, of course). I cannot see giving a guy 4/5 years guaranteed who has a serious heart defect and could disrupt his career. Why would we want to commit that kind of money on a "maybe he can play" player? That would screw us big time if he only lasted 1/2 season of a 4/5 year guaranteed contract.

I say no way!
 
kingsofnba said:
also, any "performance" contract would not entice curry to change teams... the bulls probably tried that already, but curry turned it down... he wants security and a guraenteed contract... he would not change teams for the same deal he turned down from the bulls already...
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Probably right on Curry already turning down the PERFORMACE clause ...

BUT

To go to a team that has "good/really good" possibilities of advancing in the playoffs ... that's a "horse of a different color" ..... hummmmmmm
 
i doubt that they would take thomas.... but corilss and a first round w/ darius for curry would work, it would be like giving curry the 1 year deal anyways since corilss would be an expiring contract....

id do it...... without hesitation....
 
I don't see how we would be thin up front if Curry doesn't work.

So let's assume Petrie signs another C.

But Skinner Behind Rahim, and the C behind Miller.
 
I don't think we'd be thin, I think Curry is an upgrade over Thomas or Corliss. I can't see him starting but I can see him playing significantly at either the 4 or 5.
 
Moving KT’s contract is enticing, but this deal is too risky. It's not going to change who we are, and could end up disastrous. I would not do it. He's not enough of a rebounder or defender to take the risk on. If it was a smaller contract in the 3 year range, it might be worth considering.
 
It's not just the Bulls who are reluctant to take this chance...its the insurance companies Considering that there are insurance companies who will insure most anything given the right premium, that should give us pause.

I feel really sorry for Curry, who is trying to gain some financial security for himself and his family, but he is being very unrealistic at this point. The insurance companies want him to play one year without problems and I wouldn't offer more than one year guaranteed either. Anything after that would have to be team option, period.
 
I say we go for it ONLY if KT is in the trade and we can make the contract half way decent. It's not that I don't like KT, it's just that Curry would be a good 6th man for us to have IMO and there wouldn't be room for KT.

KT is awesome but he is short and can't play C. This would give us a tall man that we could use more.
 
Kenny and Darius for Curry? worth the risk if you ask me, Kenny is may be a nice back up but not not unique... I'd do it.
 
kingsofnba said:
i think this is the reason why chicago is hesitant to give more than the 1 year tender deal... if he really does have a heart problem, then you run the risk of locking in $40-50mil on a player that may not be able to play... IF he stays healthy, he would be a steal... but IF his heart problem arises again, then you are stuck with a big contract and no salary cap space...

it would be a calculated risk for any team at this point....
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Agreed.
 
maybe, because there is an insurance fund that could pay off the rest of Curry's contract if he wasn't able to play for somewhere around 2 years (what New York is going to do to get out of the rest of Allan Houston's contract)

but if it came down to it no, because Curry is not the defensive rebounding center we need....hes more offensive, and we have enough offense
 
I just don't see why Eddy would want to come here knowing that he will be a backup. And to pay a backup 10 mil. a year is just plain retarted. I like Eddy and would love to have him on the team but I don't think the Kings would be interested either.
 
SacTownKid said:
I just don't see why Eddy would want to come here knowing that he will be a backup. And to pay a backup 10 mil. a year is just plain retarted. I like Eddy and would love to have him on the team but I don't think the Kings would be interested either.
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I would love to have Curry, but not for 10 million as a backup, I don't think.

Agreed about him wanting to come.
 
Eddy may want 10 mil but I am not so sure he will necessarly get it. At any rate paying Kenny roughtly 7.14 a year for 5 more years is NOT a great option either... nor is letting Darius walk with nothign in return. But the bottome line with Kenny is that there is virtually no way to loose a top heavy contract with out taking a top heavy contract the question is waht do you get for your money. Curry might be worth the risk and givne the short terms on SAR's deal he COULD see this a "try out" year. But most likely some team will make a good sized offer and he will take it... I jsut hate to see Darius walk and I think for what the Kings are paying Kenny they ought to get more.
 
While I have mentioned before that I am not a big Curry fan, if you can get a young giant for a spare tweener forward or two, you just do it. Thre beauty is that I don't think ANYONE is going to give him 5 years guaranteed, no $40-$50mil contracts on the horizon unless Zeke gets involved. And the Bulls don't seem to want to guarantee more than 1 yr. Which means that in theory we could come in with a contract as low as 3 guaranteed years, maybe $20-25mil, with options and incentives beyond that, and to Curry that might end up looking very attractive. The potential downside is obvious, but if you're on the hook for only 3yrs or so it might not be so bad, and if he can make it through next year without problems, you may even be able to find insurance to pick up much of the longterm risk.
 
Bricklayer said:
While I have mentioned before that I am not a big Curry fan, if you can get a young giant for a spare tweener forward or two, you just do it. Thre beauty is that I don't think ANYONE is going to give him 5 years guaranteed, no $40-$50mil contracts on the horizon unless Zeke gets involved. And the Bulls don't seem to want to guarantee more than 1 yr. Which means that in theory we could come in with a contract as low as 3 guaranteed years, maybe $20-25mil, with options and incentives beyond that, and to Curry that might end up looking very attractive. The potential downside is obvious, but if you're on the hook for only 3yrs or so it might not be so bad, and if he can make it through next year without problems, you may even be able to find insurance to pick up much of the longterm risk.
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He's a terrible rebounder though............... I would rather keep Thomas there...
 
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