Darth Divac
Bench
We should trade our pick on draft day, but only if none of Burke, Oladipo or Porter is available.
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Yes, it's disappointing that the Kings didn't move up. There were better odds that we'd slide to 7 but it's frustrating that the Kings never seem to move up in the lottery.
But I think it's the nearly two decades under Geoff Petrie that has conditioned Kings fans to believe that our draft slot is unchangeable. Geoff has an eye for talent for sure, but he is the least aggressive draft day GM ever and is content to wait until he's on the clock and grab the best player on his board. Since he seems to be fairly active in trades on draft day (more so than at the trade deadline) I always wonder if his focus is on those calls rather than focused on possible draft moves. Either way, the reality is that depending on the GM that is brought in (assuming Petrie is cut loose or moved to an advisory role) the Kings could be players on draft day. If Oladipo or Porter are major targets, the Kings could likely make the move to get them.
We'll see.
But I think it's the nearly two decades under Geoff Petrie that has conditioned Kings fans to believe that our draft slot is unchangeable. Geoff has an eye for talent for sure, but he is the least aggressive draft day GM ever and is content to wait until he's on the clock and grab the best player on his board. Since he seems to be fairly active in trades on draft day (more so than at the trade deadline) I always wonder if his focus is on those calls rather than focused on possible draft moves. Either way, the reality is that depending on the GM that is brought in (assuming Petrie is cut loose or moved to an advisory role) the Kings could be players on draft day. If Oladipo or Porter are major targets, the Kings could likely make the move to get them.
We'll see.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
If you watched Muhammad play all year you'd know why he fell to where he is. I wouldn't be shocked if he fell all the way out of the lottery. He doesn't pass the ball once he has it. He's totally left handed. He has difficulty creating his own shot, and he's not quick enough to play SG and not tall enough to play SF. The last sentence is just my opinion. He a very selfish player.
NewArena
All-Star
lol why are you guys having a meltdown in here, like we're about to miss out on the
next Lebron? Jesus Christ. Calm down
I don't feel a thing. The last thing we need to do, is get younger, anyway.
NewArena
All-Star
ha. This post reminds me of when we fell to #5 the year we got Cousins. Everyone here thought the
Sky was falling, and there would be no way in the world to get a talent like that
Lets see what happens. Obviously a talent like cousins isn't available, but I guess
You never know
Yeah, we'd prefer to have a top 3 pick, but while a few guys have a chance to be very good players, there are no franchise changing talents in this draft that I can see.
But yes, you never know. No one thought Dion Waiters (who wasn't even a starter in college) would be a top five pick at this time last year and he was AND the rookie of the year was drafted sixth.
For that matter you can make a case for nearly every player tumbling down to the Kings spot.
Noel has an injury history and won't be available to start this season because of his ACL tear. He'll continue to be injury prone because of his frame and style of play. See how often he ends up on the ground in any game film. Besides which, he'll need to be paired with a big strong PF/C because he'll get tossed around by low post big men.
Burke is slightly undersized but otherwise has few holes. But at the same time most of the teams ahead of us (Cleveland, Orlando, Washington etc) have recently drafted a PG
Oladipo will be a high energy guy with great defensive ability but his ceiling is likely as a very good role player and not a star. Maybe teams would rather gamble on someone with more potential
Porter is super skinny with completely broken shot mechanics.
McLemore really has few holes beyond not being as tall as you'd like. But since Orlando, Washington and Phoenix could all use a talented SG with range I can't see any way that he slips. But again, we'll see.
Maybe Cleveland drafts Porter and we can trade the #7 and Thornton to Orlando for #2. Who knows?
ninjabiscuit
Bench
Totally agree. After the last five months, I'm not going to get all angry about our position in the draft.
Nikolizzle
G-League
I'm not too upset about our position in the draft.
MCW it is, in my opinion. All of these "reasons" we shouldn't draft him are ridiculous. Small hands? Come on. Can't shoot? John Stockton & Jason Kidd - Just about the two greatest point guards of our generation - Both poor to average shots.
Sacramento doesn't need someone who can shoot. They need someone to put it in the hands of the players that can.
Also, theoretically, what does Sac do if McLemore drops to them? Can they let him pass?
I mean, if a situation like this occurs: Orlando drafts Burke, Charlotte drafts Bennett, Suns draft Oladipo - It's unlikely that Washington or New Orleans will pick him, as they have their SGs.
If that were to happen, do you think they'd let Tyreke walk?
MCW it is, in my opinion. All of these "reasons" we shouldn't draft him are ridiculous. Small hands? Come on. Can't shoot? John Stockton & Jason Kidd - Just about the two greatest point guards of our generation - Both poor to average shots.
Sacramento doesn't need someone who can shoot. They need someone to put it in the hands of the players that can.
Also, theoretically, what does Sac do if McLemore drops to them? Can they let him pass?
I mean, if a situation like this occurs: Orlando drafts Burke, Charlotte drafts Bennett, Suns draft Oladipo - It's unlikely that Washington or New Orleans will pick him, as they have their SGs.
If that were to happen, do you think they'd let Tyreke walk?
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Hallama
Starter
You really need to go look up Stockton's career shooting numbers...I get your point if you just said Kidd, but Stockton was a very very good shooter.
rhythmless
Starter
Jason Kidd quickly developed a 3 pointer that was reputable and quite consistent. He also shot it a good amount of time which helped spread the floor for the team. There's a difference between "can't shoot" and "not a scorer." Rondo is of the former. Kidd is of the latter, and one of the best ever. The odds of a mid lotto pick in a weak draft reaching the level of one of the most decorated HOF point guards ever is not something you can really use as an argument for MCW.
Nikolizzle
G-League
I'll admit, I was probably exaggerating calling either of them "poor" shots. But my point is, they aren't there to shoot.
Why not? Rondo was a pick #21 in the 2006 draft, which was as weak as this one. He's well on his way to getting there, and before he got injured was arguably the best PG in the NBA. Stockton was taken at #16, too - Although it was in the greatest draft.
I'm not saying MCW will be Rondo, Kidd, or Stockton - But there's no saying he won't be either.
I'm just for drafting a player that does something we're lacking really well. All of that other stuff is meaningless.
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Vlade4GM
All-Star
Rondo has much bigger hands, much longer wingspan, and knows how to play within his limitations. MCW has too high of a dribble, he won't be able to protect the ball like Rondo. I'm not saying he's going to suck, but the bust potential is huge with him, and I don't want the Kings to be the team taking that chance.
Nikolizzle
G-League
It's true, but all i'm looking at is: Is he an athletic, smart, high-level passer? Yes.
And while I agree that there's 'bust potential', last year everyone said that Thomas Robinson was the most ready to make an impact in the NBA because of his body, one of the safer choices... Look how well that went.
rhythmless
Starter
It's not meaningless. If you try and pair MCW with Tyreke (a mediocre shooter), you're asking the paint to get packed in hard. This means no room for DMC. This means no lanes for cutters at the basket. This means no passes that lead to baskets, also known as assists. This then negates MCW's ability to make the pass. This isn't effective.
If you want to use Rondo as a comparison, fine. He's a horrible shooter but can get into the lane. Kidd is an excellent 3 point shooter, as was Stockton. They are off the table. They spread the floor. Rondo didn't. Which is exactly why Cs brought in one of the best catch and shoot guys of all time alongside him, along with a strong long range threat in Pierce. If you want MCW, you need to have teammates that cover his inadequacies.
