DOUG EFFING CHRISTIE

TaxMan

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pdxKingsFan said:
The Beam Team vibes were back in the Philly game even. I think that's the one where they were down big and battled back to tie at the half (and rinse repeat to pull off a W). After Fox hit a buzzer beater at halftime they all hugged at half court like the old days.

I don't care if its just vibes because it is fun to watch again. Just being in Sacramento and knowing 2002 happened and then enduring everything since all I want is fun to watch and a shot at winning every game (and being happy they won, not sad about some lottery balls). ~12 days ago I had written this season off and was ready to let Fox go because it seemed we had completely bungled building on the Beam Team. I had booked a trip home for Christmas intending to see the Kings at G1C but they fired Brown the day before I left so I decided I'd rather see friends. But here we are and I'm incredibly looking forward to the game in Portland again next month.

Doug and the guys have done this. I really hope it sticks because a more fairy tale story can never be written.
I hope Doug remembers me at the next game and will sign something for me :)
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Honestly, the odds of this team winning an NBA championship are extremely low, no matter who is coaching or what tweaks we make to the roster. Small market teams just need to absolutely nail roster building and get really lucky with a generational talent (i.e. the Spurs, Thunder and Nuggets come to mind...) Without getting a generational/MVP level talent, it's just not happening.... I just want to have freaking fun watching this team TRY....even though my brain tells me it's never going to happen.

The beam team was awesome because there was a collective agreement among the NBA universe that they were a blast to watch. They played with swagger and joy. I have no idea if Christie is the "real deal" as a top level NBA coach; however, at the very least it feels like he can bring back the joy and excitement.
 
pdxKingsFan

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Right the Beam Team was what folks call a League Pass team (ie the one LP subs watch when their team isn't playing). The last season and a half was not fun to watch at all. The last few games have been a blast. Team under Christie is scoring 122.4 points a night - and two huge first quarters the last two games - while they are at 115.8 for the season (which if I mathed right means we were averaging 114.7 under Brown). Opponents are actually scoring a tick more against us than under Brown but it's only about a point or so difference. Don't want to argue the merits of scoring = good, but it usually passes the casual fan test. Which translates to hype outside of the core fanbase.
 
pdxKingsFan

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There's been some chippy play and of course Doug's first game was against the Lakers but it does seem like there's less yapping and complaining about officiating (no it's not great either). I had made a mental note to see how things develop.
 
Warhawk

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TaxMan said:
Christie and I believe multiple players have said that he's simplified things (on offense for sure....) My overall impression of Coach Brown is that ever since the end of our first Beam Team season, his main goal was to move us to the next level in order to facilitate better success in the playoffs. DHO was shut down in the playoffs by the warriors, so we need to expand our actions. We need Keegan to be more than a spot up shooter, so I'm going to push him to be more aggressive. We got bogged down in the playoffs when things are more physical and half court offense is more important, so lets put some more structure and options in the half court. Outside of fox and monk, we lack players that can create their own shot, so lets really feed Deebo to diversify.... etc. etc. etc. I don't disagree all of these things are probably things that need to happen to one day move deep into the playoffs (and heck, possibly one day compete for a championship). However, I believe in focusing on these "next steps" it hindered our core super power as a fun, loose, free-flowing, cocky/confident team.

Brown may have been totally correct in his assessment, but I believe the players were beaten down by his focus on taking us to the next level. He was making them eat their veggies. At a certain point, playing basketball becomes a chore. Players get tight. Things aren't fun anymore. I know I certainly didn't have as much fun watching the team last year.... yeah, they only lost two more games last year, but there was something about the team that was different. I think Doug is simplifying things to get our spirit and joy of the game back. Last night against the warriors felt like a "Beam Team" game. Yes, it was a blowout so that's great, but it also just felt like these guys had fun again.
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I (and others) have mentioned previously that he went away from what was working so well in the Beam Team season this last year+. While some DHO stuff was not being as successful, it seems like he went down a rabbit hole trying to complicate things. I'm no basketball expert, but whatever DC did to simplify things and bring the joy back seems to be working, at least so far.
 
captain bill

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https://twitter.com/statuses/1876445697329009129


TIL that Spo was playing at Portland 88-92, same time Doug was at Pepperdine in the same conference (89-92). Makes his answer a little more disappointing by just making Doug sound like a company guy and not someone qualified who’s been kicking his ass for a long time. But I understand solidarity between the coaches and that they don’t see Doug as one of their own (yet)
 
Bfreeman

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captain bill said:
https://twitter.com/statuses/1876445697329009129


TIL that Spo was playing at Portland 88-92, same time Doug was at Pepperdine in the same conference (89-92). Makes his answer a little more disappointing by just making Doug sound like a company guy and not someone qualified who’s been kicking his ass for a long time. But I understand solidarity between the coaches and that they don’t see Doug as one of their own (yet)
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The White Hat is unfazed by the hate..........
 
Vinny Basketballerino

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captain bill said:
https://twitter.com/statuses/1876445697329009129


TIL that Spo was playing at Portland 88-92, same time Doug was at Pepperdine in the same conference (89-92). Makes his answer a little more disappointing by just making Doug sound like a company guy and not someone qualified who’s been kicking his ass for a long time. But I understand solidarity between the coaches and that they don’t see Doug as one of their own (yet)
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The fact that so many coaches are coming out "against" the firing of Mike Brown when it was CLEARLY needed (validated now by a 5 game win streak), tells me that Mike Brown was a better politician than coach.
 
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Was happy from the start that Doug got the job, still wasn’t expecting these early results.
Question, if Bobby Jackson had remained with the Kings instead of chasing what he thought a better opportunity to advance with Philadelphia, which former Kings player would be HC now.
 
pdxKingsFan

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jiimbob said:
Was happy from the start that Doug got the job, still wasn’t expecting these early results.
Question, if Bobby Jackson had remained with the Kings instead of chasing what he thought a better opportunity to advance with Philadelphia, which former Kings player would be HC now.
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I think it would still be Doug but you never know. They made a point of putting Doug on Brown's staff despite him getting to pick everyone else.
 
Hoovtrain

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captain bill said:
https://twitter.com/statuses/1876445697329009129


TIL that Spo was playing at Portland 88-92, same time Doug was at Pepperdine in the same conference (89-92). Makes his answer a little more disappointing by just making Doug sound like a company guy and not someone qualified who’s been kicking his ass for a long time. But I understand solidarity between the coaches and that they don’t see Doug as one of their own (yet)
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Maybe some of these guys should just stfu and worry about their own teams. I get it’s a fraternity, but get over it. The pissing and moaning with these coaches is getting old
 
Hoovtrain

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jiimbob said:
Was happy from the start that Doug got the job, still wasn’t expecting these early results.
Question, if Bobby Jackson had remained with the Kings instead of chasing what he thought a better opportunity to advance with Philadelphia, which former Kings player would be HC now.
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Bobby was/is my all time favorite player, but Christie was always the guy I wanted coaching from the time he was calling the games
 
ockingsfan

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Hoovtrain said:
Maybe some of these guys should just stfu and worry about their own teams. I get it’s a fraternity, but get over it. The pissing and moaning with these coaches is getting old
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All these coaches are making a big deal of it to shine a bad light on the “classless” Kings, in hopes that their franchise don’t fire them mid-season in the future if they underperform.

TBH, it seemed pretty apparent the Kings were not going to make the playoffs for the 2nd year in a row. Making the change now, gives them a fighting chance on getting into the playoffs AND with some momentum.
 
Vinny Basketballerino

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ockingsfan said:
All these coaches are making a big deal of it to shine a bad light on the “classless” Kings, in hopes that their franchise don’t fire them mid-season in the future if they underperform.

TBH, it seemed pretty apparent the Kings were not going to make the playoffs for the 2nd year in a row. Making the change now, gives them a fighting chance on getting into the playoffs AND with some momentum.
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YES. Exactly. On all points.
 
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