Demarcus Freaking Cousins

i think its fair to say that if the average human being was in Cousins postition (best player on a terrible team run by a terrible coach and a terrible franchise with terrible owners) they would probably have some outbursts if they were passionate about this game and wanting to win and wanting to make this team successful. so im not gonna rip Cousins. if this type of behavior from Cousins continues next year when there is new owners/GM/Coach/Players around Cousins, then i will start to say he's a problem

He was a problem in college under a great coach but let us note his improvement. He has gone from an out of control foul machine to a player who fouls at a rate fairly appropriate for his position and especially under a coach who seemingly would like to play him 40 minutes a game if possible. He has made these changes under the poor conditions of the team and management. In other words, at first I felt fortunate to get 25 minutes out of him and now he fouls out relatively rarely. That's a remarkable change. Couple my note with bajaden's and note that he is trying to change his game. He has this intense energy yet now is trying to find a way to use this energy but not foul out. It can't be easy. I don't know if he will be able to control his mouth and I doubt if he will be a Tyreke in that matter. Just the same we have a young man who is changing rapidly in a positive direction. He's a keeper. :)
 
I think the above comments about new owners. Making big changes is right on, inevitable.

For right now with this team I would make a Cousins adjustment for the remainder of the season. Since Cousins is avferaging little more than half the game minutes I would formalize it by restricting him to 26 minutes a game. To strengthen thr center position I would take Thompson out of the starting lineup and play him 22 minutes a game as cousins backup.

I would start Robinson at PF, Johnson at SF and back them both up with Outlaw. Since we have no play-making guards at the point I would start two SGs, Salmons and Evans and back them up with Garcia.

I would give Thornton, Fredette and Brooks permission to play no minutes at all, zero. I swould play Thomas and Hayes situationally only. With the understanding they grt no minutes at all unless needed.

Play the starters other than Cousins big minutes, have the above 8 man rotation. Emphasize defense and keep my fingers crossed on offense and learn to live with a different set of problems than has been the case.

It would be fun and interesting for me to follow this for the rest of the season.
 
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He was a problem in college under a great coach but let us note his improvement. He has gone from an out of control foul machine to a player who fouls at a rate fairly appropriate for his position

exactly. and if you look at how he played for the first couple weeks after that suspension, averaging like 24pts/13reb/5ast and NO immaturaty problems. i truly believe thats the type of player he could every game once this franchise is under new ownership and has a complete overhaul
 
I think the above comments about new owners. Making big changes is right on, inevitable.

For right now with this team I would make a Cousins adjustment for the remainder of the season. Since Cousins is avferaging little more than half the game minutes I would formalize it by restricting him to 26 minutes a game. To strengthen thr center position I would take Thompson out of the starting lineup and play him 22 minutes a game as cousins backup.

I would start Robinson at PF, Johnson at SF and back them both up with Outlaw. Since we have no play-making guards at the point I would start two SGs, Salmons and Evans and back them up with Garcia.

I would give Thornton, Fredette and Brooks permission to play no minutes at all, zero. I swould play Thomas and Hayes situationally only. With the understanding they grt no minutes at all unless needed.

Play the starters other than Cousins big minutes, have the above 8 man rotation. Emphasize defense and keep my fingers crossed on offense and learn to live with a different set of problems than has been the case.

It would be fun and interesting for me to follow this for the rest of the season.

This isn't a criticism, but I'm a little confused as to why you want to restrict Cousins minutes. He's averaging over 30 minutes a game right now, and the desire of the team was to get him in good enough condition to play more minutes, which is what he's doing. So I'm not sure what your reasoning is.
 
This isn't a criticism, but I'm a little confused as to why you want to restrict Cousins minutes. He's averaging over 30 minutes a game right now, and the desire of the team was to get him in good enough condition to play more minutes, which is what he's doing. So I'm not sure what your reasoning is.
Very good question. I have wanted him to play more but between his behavior problems and the coaching decisions he hasn't. So why not deal with it positively and only plan on say 26, so that Thompson gets 22 and we should br able to rely on Cousins giving us 26 no matter how many fouls, technical and regula, he gets. Now we cannot rely on Cousins. We give ip his presence and contributions and we gain a more manageable situation. That's my reasoning. I want him to be there for me and, for whatever reason he is not.
 
Very good question. I have wanted him to play more but between his behavior problems and the coaching decisions he hasn't. So why not deal with it positively and only plan on say 26, so that Thompson gets 22 and we should br able to rely on Cousins giving us 26 no matter how many fouls, technical and regula, he gets. Now we cannot rely on Cousins. We give ip his presence and contributions and we gain a more manageable situation. That's my reasoning. I want him to be there for me and, for whatever reason he is not.

That makes no sense, unless the goal is a higher pick and an angry pair of young centers..
 
That makes no sense, unless the goal is a higher pick and an angry pair of young centers..

Thanks. I guess it doesn't unless you see, as I do, that Cousins is a problem for this team right now. Also, if our purpose is to win games, what we're doing doesn't make much sense either.
 
Thanks. I guess it doesn't unless you see, as I do, that Cousins is a problem for this team right now. Also, if our purpose is to win games, what we're doing doesn't make much sense either.

I see what you are saying and it makes logical sense from your starting point. I don't agree that Cuz is a problem for the team, quite the opposite. The team is the problem with Cuz. Feature Cuz on the offense and he does great. Surround him with the guys that acknowledge that and he's fine, but put him out there with guys that think they should be the stars and we get angry Cuz.
 
I see what you are saying and it makes logical sense from your starting point. I don't agree that Cuz is a problem for the team, quite the opposite. The team is the problem with Cuz. Feature Cuz on the offense and he does great. Surround him with the guys that acknowledge that and he's fine, but put him out there with guys that think they should be the stars and we get angry Cuz.

I totally agree.
 
I guess if I had to chose between the team and Cousins I'd chose the team, and I don't want to do that.

If I had to choose between Cousins and the Maloofs, I choose Cousins. And the Maloofs are the reason for our misery on and off the court. The team's current construction is a reflection of MSE ineptitude.
 
If I had to choose between Cousins and the Maloofs, I choose Cousins. And the Maloofs are the reason for our misery on and off the court. The team's current construction is a reflection of MSE ineptitude.
I mean the team, the players not the owners, not the coach, I mean the ones that play basketball.
 
I mean the team, the players not the owners, not the coach, I mean the ones that play basketball.

Yeah, I know, but you have to look higher up the food chain that that. At least that is how I look at it.
 
I had NO idea what the first one was for but you can't have too many arguments with the second tech.

that said the ref that gave him it, wasn't the one he was speaking too.
 
I had NO idea what the first one was for but you can't have too many arguments with the second tech.

that said the ref that gave him it, wasn't the one he was speaking too.
Now this is a tech and worthy of ejection. League has gone soft. Cousins is an era too late.

 
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i think its fair to say that if the average human being was in Cousins postition (best player on a terrible team run by a terrible coach and a terrible franchise with terrible owners) they would probably have some outbursts if they were passionate about this game and wanting to win and wanting to make this team successful. so im not gonna rip Cousins. if this type of behavior from Cousins continues next year when there is new owners/GM/Coach/Players around Cousins, then i will start to say he's a problem

Hogwash. Cousins doesn't get a pass because he's not in the absolute ideal perfect situation for him to succeed in. Nothing in life is like that. Yes, everyone and their grandmothers know the real problems with our team, but I refuse to give Cousins a pass because the organization sucks. I want to see him working his *** off every single game, staying out of trouble, and being the franchise player we want him to be. Throwing a hissy fit, getting ejected/suspended, and all the other various off-court issues are not what franchise players do.
 
In fairness, nothing in life is like the NBA. Teenagers are given multimillion dollar contracts and are expected to behave at a rate commensurate to that amount of money. And yes, he does need to take ownership for his behavior, but you're really, really underestimating the support he's been given and the administration that surrounds him. It's an absolute cluster-poop.
 
Now this is a tech and worthy of ejection. League has gone soft. Cousins is an era too late.
If Cousins had been born an "era" sooner, he'd still be a senior in college. Perhaps four years with a real coach, in a real system, would have helped him grow up.

I know, wishful thinking, right?
 
Comment about DFC from Ty Corbin:

View from the outside: Corbin talked about Sacramento Kings center DeMarcus Cousins, who had been ejected from two of the three previous games between the teams. "He's an emotional player who sometimes overreacts or is too demonstrative for the referees," Corbin said. "He's a young guy, and he'll learn how to use the emotions. But most of the best players in the league are emotional, passionate players."

more here
 
Cousins is an undeniable talent, but still acts like a punk some of the time. He needs to learn mental toughness more than anything. He would have had a lot of trouble going up against guys like Nate Thurmond, Bill Russell, Wilt, Kareem and Daryl Dawkins that were full grown men.

Larry Bird gets my vote as the NBA player with the toughest mental outlook all-time. On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the highest, Cousins rates about a 3. Shut up and play.
 
Has anyone noticed that Cousins mental state has improved incredibly? It always seems to me that there is a time warp and people are stuck back at least a half a year in what they remember about a player. Open up your eyes and you will see Cousins has made a great change from a guy who couldn't survive a game because he was a foul machine to someone who only occasionally fouls out. What more do people expect at this time? Same goes for Tyreke. Where are the comliments for developing a jump shot? Last year there were always several threads criticizing and advising Tyreke about how he could be unstoppable. Now one of the best notes brushed aside the fact that he has developed a jump shot and criticise him for not having a floater. These guys are young and the learning process continues.
 
I'm not even going to think about his behaviour again (barring something terrible) until we see him in a proper offensive system geared to his strengths.
 
Has anyone noticed that Cousins mental state has improved incredibly? It always seems to me that there is a time warp and people are stuck back at least a half a year in what they remember about a player. Open up your eyes and you will see Cousins has made a great change from a guy who couldn't survive a game because he was a foul machine to someone who only occasionally fouls out. What more do people expect at this time? Same goes for Tyreke. Where are the comliments for developing a jump shot? Last year there were always several threads criticizing and advising Tyreke about how he could be unstoppable. Now one of the best notes brushed aside the fact that he has developed a jump shot and criticise him for not having a floater. These guys are young and the learning process continues.

Your being far too logical!
 
Has anyone noticed that Cousins mental state has improved incredibly? It always seems to me that there is a time warp and people are stuck back at least a half a year in what they remember about a player. Open up your eyes and you will see Cousins has made a great change from a guy who couldn't survive a game because he was a foul machine to someone who only occasionally fouls out. What more do people expect at this time? Same goes for Tyreke. Where are the comliments for developing a jump shot? Last year there were always several threads criticizing and advising Tyreke about how he could be unstoppable. Now one of the best notes brushed aside the fact that he has developed a jump shot and criticise him for not having a floater. These guys are young and the learning process continues.

Most people don't really care about Cousins emotions or Tyreke's game at this point. It's all about whether the team stays in Sacramento. They could trade Cousins for Juwan Howard tomorrow and no one would care as long as we keep the team.
 
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