Boogie_Fever
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You're not the one I was pointing too, you must be ignoring the same guy I am. His post was right above mine.
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You're not the one I was pointing too, you must be ignoring the same guy I am. His post was right above mine.
I love seeing Boogie making clutch plays at the end of games. You need you superstar to be the guy that comes through in the clutch, whether that's making the smart pass, scoring the tough bucket or making the crucial stop.
And best of all, both of those plays last night showed great situational awareness on his part. With the score tied he was careful not to reach in across Augustin's body and get a clutch steal. It was an opportunistic gamble and DMC was very careful not to foul him. Then when Arthur caught the ball down low he aggressively went after the strip and wasn't going to allow him to get that shot off.
If he doesn't get whistled (which is what happened) then it seals the game. If he does get called for a foul then Arthur can only tie the game from the line. Anyone who has any ability to read lips knows that Malone thought it was a foul, but again, great decision by Cousins.
Just smart basketball in both instances.
And best of all, both of those plays last night showed great situational awareness on his part. With the score tied he was careful not to reach in across Augustin's body and get a clutch steal. It was an opportunistic gamble and DMC was very careful not to foul him. Then when Arthur caught the ball down low he aggressively went after the strip and wasn't going to allow him to get that shot off.
If he doesn't get whistled (which is what happened) then it seals the game. If he does get called for a foul then Arthur can only tie the game from the line. Anyone who has any ability to read lips knows that Malone thought it was a foul, but again, great decision by Cousins.
Just smart basketball in both instances.
Blob
Starter
There is a validity here but there are problems to your analysis. It is incomplete and one-sided which I will address right quick...
You know Boogie faltered big time during our 9 out of 10 losses, including 3-17 and 4-21 games, right? And you know he struggled big time in December when he shot 39% FGs and we were 5-8 against lightweight teams, right?
This combined stretch which was separated by the 5 game win streak and current 3 game streak equals 17 losses out 23 games. These 17 losses over two months is why we are on the outside looking in in the current playoff race.
Boogie is an awesome player and total force and I LOVE THE GUY, he can be incredible, but I see the whole picture. His emotional make-up and the hole in his game, which is lack of viable go-to move off the block, have contributed to where we are now.
This is the deal, there has been too much variance in Good Boogie vs. Bad Boogie. His range of performance has fluctuated significantly and because his usage is so high (33%), it is difficult to overcome the off nights when his performance is on the low end of the spectrum (not to mention his defense suffers when he is not scoring well).
He is 59.5% TS in 22 wins and 49.4% TS in 24 losses.
This is a significant variance on a team with a collective TS% of 54.8%. He is either +5 or -5 relative to the team where preferably you would like to see a narrower fluctuation (52-57). Boogie also scores 6 fewer PPG (30 PPG vs 24 PPG) in losses and makes one more TO per game (3 vs 4 TO) in losses.
When things go wrong, he presses. He gets frustrated. He drags the team down. He loses his patience. He forces plays that aren't there. He is getting better at this but this has been his modus operandi in a lot of the games we have thrown away. When his outside jumper is not falling and against formidable front lines, his impatience and immaturity and lack of half-hook off the block are exposed and exploited.
Boogie is awesome where there is a clear talent gap between him and his defender. When this talent gap is narrowed, and the opponent has size and skill (POR, GWS, OKC, BOS, BKN), Boogie has gotten lazy and discouraged and under-performed. This is valid criticism! Not someone being ridiculous. Its a combination or mental (maturity) and physical (below average post game).
To the the extent Boogie has flourished, the system and Karl have been a positive and contributory role. I said two weeks into season giving Boogie a live dribble facing up in the middle of the floor was smart strategy because it makes it difficult to double. And this has been where he has been most dominant, not feeding him the ball in the post where teams can double and force bad passes and TOs.
Boogie is NOT the player to whom you want to compare him.
He breaks conventional comparison because of his diverse array of skills. I compare his power game and inside-outside game to LeBron and Carmelo. I also liken him to Charles Barkley, though I don't like that comparison so much because of the height differential.
Carmelo is less efficient LeBron. So in a sense when Boogie is at his best, he is the center version of LeBron. When Boogie struggles, he is the center version of Carmelo. Due his face up game, handles, power, first step, shooting touch, Boogie is an amalgamation of LeBron, Carmelo and Barkley with a touch of Moses Malone thrown in there for good measure.
So comparing him to classic big man and raw production fall flat IMHO. Who cares really? 28/11 reflect playing with best assist man and our hole at SG. Hypothetically if we had Darren running the point or say CJ McCollum at SG instead of Ben ( a more creative and reliable weapon), Boogie's production numbers would decrease but his efficiency would increase to the benefit of the team.
These circumstance are variables in Boogie career scoring. In this more detailed context, you can credit him fairly for his dominance and success without overlooking areas for improvement....AND holding him accountable to the appropriate degree to which the team has underachieved .
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FaStRmAn
Starter
I hope MANAGEMENT takes a moment or 2 to appreciate what caliber of talent they are letting go to waste with the lack of talent they surround him with... Have we signed an NBA caliber 2 guard yet???
Glenn
Hall of Famer
Yeah. I used to ignore quite a few people but it created mayhem in trying to follow a conversation. I am only ignoring one but it very well could have been the same. I can go back and se if I can figure it out. Got nothing better to do.
randymoss1881
Starter
Vlade is completely blameless in this! He went after Matthews/Green and how would he know a vet like Marco would crap the bed like this. Funny thing is I really wanted Green but look at how he is playing in SA we would be bitching about his play as well.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
Ya know brick, you are correct and those who don't see it will never see it. Even without the stats, it is relatively easy for me to see the greatness that is Boogie. The stats merely back it up. I've seen all the guys from the past who he can be compared to. This month is unbelievable. TRULY!!!! We are getting used to it and that's a pity. I listened to Grant at about the point Boogie had 30 pts (3rd quarter?) and he said that Boogie was having a solid game. SOLID? I am not picking on Grant when he says things like that. It has become an expectation that Boogie will amass huge numbers. Now to stand out he has to pull off two great defensive plays at a crucial time, no less.
Appreciate the guy, folks, and hope he never leaves.
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Glenn
Hall of Famer
There is a validity here but there are problems to your analysis. It is incomplete and one-sided which I will address right quick...
You know Boogie faltered big time during our 9 out of 10 losses, including 3-17 and 4-42 games, right? And you know he struggled big time in December when he shot 39% FGs and we were 5-8 against lightweight teams, right?
This combined stretch which was separated by the 5 game win streak and current 3 game streak equals 17 losses out 23 games. These 17 losses over two months is why we are on the outside looking in in the current playoff race.
Boogie is an awesome player and total force and I LOVE THE GUY, he can be incredible, but I see the whole picture. His emotional make-up and the hole in his game, which is lack of viable go-to move off the block, have contributed to where we are now.
This is the deal, there has been too much variance in Good Boogie vs. Bad Boogie. His range of performance has fluctuated significantly and because his usage is so high (33%), it is difficult to overcome the off nights when his performance is on the low end of the spectrum (not to mention his defense suffers when he is not scoring well).
He is 59.5% TS in 22 wins and 49.4% TS in 24 losses.
This is a significant variance on a team with a collective TS% of 54.8%. He is either +5 or -5 relative to the team where preferably you would like to see a narrower fluctuation (52-57). Boogie also scores 6 fewer PPG (30 PPG vs 24 PPG) in losses and makes one more TO per game (3 vs 4 TO) in losses.
When things go wrong, he presses. He gets frustrated. He drags the team down. He loses his patience. He forces plays that aren't there. He is getting better at this but this has been his modus operandi in a lot of the games we have thrown away. When his outside jumper is not falling and against formidable front lines, his impatience and immaturity and lack of half-hook off the block are exposed and exploited.
Boogie is awesome where there is a clear talent gap between him and his defender. When this talent gap is narrowed, and the opponent has size and skill (POR, GWS, OKC, BOS, BKN), Boogie has gotten lazy and discouraged and under-performed. This is valid criticism! Not someone being ridiculous. Its a combination or mental (maturity) and physical (below average post game).
To the the extent Boogie has flourished, the system and Karl have been a positive and contributory role. I said two weeks into season giving Boogie a live dribble facing up in the middle of the floor was smart strategy because it makes it difficult to double. And this has been where he has been most dominant, not feeding him the ball in the post where teams can double and force bad passes and TOs.
Boogie is NOT the player to whom you want to compare him.
He breaks conventional comparison because of his diverse array of skills. I compare his power game and inside-outside game to LeBron and Carmelo. I also liken him to Charles Barkley, though I don't like that comparison so much because of the height differential.
Carmelo is less efficient LeBron. So in a sense when Boogie is at his best, he is the center version of LeBron. When Boogie struggles, he is the center version of Carmelo. Due his face up game, handles, power, first step, shooting touch, Boogie is an amalgamation of LeBron, Carmelo and Barkley with a touch of Moses Malone thrown in there for good measure.
So comparing him to classic big man and raw production fall flat IMHO. Who cares really? 28/11 reflect playing with best assist man and our hole at SG. Hypothetically if we had Darren running the point or say CJ McCollum at SG instead of Ben ( a more creative and reliable weapon), Boogie's production numbers would decrease but his efficiency would increase to the benefit of the team.
These circumstance are variables in Boogie career scoring. In this more detailed context, you can credit him fairly for his dominance and success without overlooking areas for improvement....AND holding him accountable to the appropriate degree to which the team has underachieved .
I admire your analysis just about every time you write one. I quit reading this one though when you said Boogie had a hole in his game. Would God measure up?
bajaden
Hall of Famer
When I first saw Cousins play in a Nike or McDonalds highschool all star game, he reminded me of a shorter version of Wilt. Not as athletic, but dominating like Wilt with the same on court presence that Wilt had. He played with that same arrogance and strength of a player that wouldn't be denied. He did nothing at Kentucky to change that opinion. His problems had nothing to do with talent, but with attitude and even that was similar to Wilt, who was traded away several times because people didn't like his attitude. Of course that turned out to be a huge mistake for those teams that gave up on Wilt, and in our case, it would likely be a huge mistake as well, were we to trade Cuz.
I've always been a believer that the whole can be better than the sum of its parts, but it's a very risky way to go. You trade Cousins, and your taking a huge gamble. I'm not going to sit here and say it couldn't work, because I have no idea who or what we might trade him for. What I do know, is that Cousins is probably one of the top five players in the entire NBA, and I'm not sure how you put a value on a player that is on the road, barring injury, to being a HOF player. On most nights, he's an unstoppable force. Is he perfect every night? No, of course not. And I'd like to point out, that you can be critical of a player without wanting to trade him away.
I have my issues with Cuz, but I have seen improvement in the areas that bother me. Strangely, or ironically, when he does show improvement, I find it even more irritating when he reverts back. But, having spent most of my life being an A$$, I know that old habits die hard, and I have to keep reminding myself that Cousins is a human being, not a robot that we can program. I think last nights game was a team win, with Cuz being the leader. He wasn't perfect, but I'm not going to nit pick a game that some on other teams could only dream of having. If Cuz has a problem now, its that the better he becomes, the higher he raises the bar, and every time he falls below that bar. a standard he himself set, fans are disappointed. To him I would say, that comes with the territory.
When you reside at the top of the mountain, your visible to everyone. They either adore you, or they try and tear you down. To put Cousins game in perspective, I had to listen to the Denver announcers last night, and they were raving and excited about what a great game Jovic was having. And I get it, he's part of the future of the team. The irony of it, was that he was having his head handed to him by Cuz. It was a man among'st boys. The only way Jovic could have stopped Cousins was with a gun. Cousins right now, is one of a kind. The only player in the NBA that I see challenging him in the future is Towns, and he's a year or two away. So be critical if you want, but take the time to sit back and watch an amazing player while you have the chance. As Clint Eastwood said in one of his movies. "Tomorrow is promised to no one".
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bajaden
Hall of Famer
Actually Blob makes very good points. I don't agree with all of them, but his posts are very well thought out, and respectful. Many of his criticisms are the same one's that I have. That doesn't mean I dislike Cousins, but quite the contrary. I want him to get even better. I probably have more complaints on the defensive side of the ball than the offensive side. If I had to sum up in two words the things I want Cuz to improve on it would be Patience, and Effort. Those are general terms, but if he can become consistent with those two things, his game will become even better.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
Bravo, you old dude!
This is a note that can't be written by many people as it requires brains, writing style, and experience. I think some of you don't take into account that bajaden has been around a long time and has great, easily remembered, facts to draw on. The modern stats are very useful but for me and I think bajaden merely support what we see. The stats don't go back as far as we have seen. I saw Wilt play with the Globetrotters.
I have been following Cuz only since college and saw something never seen before warts and all. Knowing that people can change or simply mature, I knew he was close to a once in a life time player. He has skills that are once in a life time. He may not have a go to move and perhaps the fact he doesn't have one (he probably has 6 or so
) is not a huge issue.BTW, I agree about Townes but we will see. Townes still has a whole lot to do and that doesn't mean Cuz will stand dormant and wait for him.
I have told this story many times. When Boogie dropped to us and we drafted him, I cried. I have never cried over a draft pick before in my life. NEVER!!! I was absolutely convinced about what we had acquired. Now I shed a small tear for another draft pick but it was just moisture in the corner of my eye. That's when we picked Trill. He will be something special, also, and I don't think he will stagnate as being a spectacular defender. He already has shown an ability to score. It is easier to develop an offensive game than a defensive game.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
I realize that a lot of today's fans have no idea how great a player Wilt was, and a lot of them will say, well, that was then and this is now, and he wouldn't be as dominate today. Well it's a subjective argument that no one can prove one way or the other. I got to see him play in person and on TV, and to me, he's the greatest big man to ever play the game. But it's just my opinion. Lest people are unaware just how great he was, and remember, they didn't keep track of blocked shots when he played. If they had, he'd be right up with Bill Russell as one of the best to ever swat a ball away. Here are some of the records he holds.
Wilt Chamberlain’s NBA Records
With 72 records (68 of which he holds by himself), Wilt Chamberlain dominates the NBA record book. And he's not just the top guy on the lists below. In several cases, he's No. 1, 2 and 3. It's hard to believe that there will ever be another player who can dominate as many statistical categories as the Big Dipper did.
MINUTES
Most seasons leading league:8
Most consecutive seasons leading league:5
Highest average per game, career:45.8
Highest average per game, season:48.5
COMPLETE GAMES
Most, season:79
Most consecutive, season:47
SCORING
Most cons. seasons leading league:*7
Most points, season:4,029
Highest average, season:50.4
Most points, rookie, season:2,707
Highest average, rookie, season:37.6
Most points, game:100
Most points, rookie, game:58
Most games, 50 or more, career:118
Most games, 50 or more, season:45
Most cons.e games, 50 or more points:7
Most games, 40 or more, career:271
Most games, 40 or more, season:63
Most cons. games, 40 or more points:14
Most cons. games, 30 or more points:65
Most cons. games, 20 or more points:126
Most points, one half:59
FIELD-GOAL PERCENTAGE
Most seasons leading league:**9
Most cons. seasons leading league:5
Highest, season (qualifiers):.727
Highest, game (min. 15 FG):***1.000
Most field goals, no misses, game:18
FIELD GOALS
Most cons. seasons leading league:*7
Most, season:1,597
Most cons., no misses, season:35
Most, game:36
Most, one half:22
FIELD GOAL ATTEMPTS
Most cons. seasons leading league:7
Most, season:3,159
Most, game:63
Most, one half:37
Most, one quarter:21
FREE THROWS MADE
Most, game:28
FREE THROW ATTEMPTS
Most seasons leading league:9
Most cons. seasons leading league:6
Most, season:1,363
Most, game:34
REBOUNDS
Most seasons leading league:11
Most, career:23,924
Highest average, career:22.9
Most, season:2,149
Most, rookie, season:1,941
Most seasons, 1,000 or more:13
Highest average, season:27.2
Most, game:55
Most, rookie, game:45
DISQUALIFICATIONS
Lowest percentage, career:****0.00
POINTS, PLAYOFFS
Most by rookie, game:53
MINUTES, PLAYOFFS
Most, 3-game series:144
Most, 4-game series:195
Most, 6-game series:296
FIELD GOALS, PLAYOFFS
Most, 7-game series:113
Most made, game:24
Most attempts, game:28
Most attempts, half:25
FIELD GOAL ATTEMPTS, PLAYOFFS
Most, 3-game series:104
Highest field goal percentage (minimum, 8):1.000*****
REBOUNDS, PLAYOFFS
Most, 5-game series:160
Most, 6-game series:171
Most, 7-game series:220
Highest average, per game, series:32.0
Most, game:41
Most, half:26
Most by rookie, game:35
MINUTES, FINALS
Most, 5-game series:240
REBOUNDS, FINALS
Most, 6-game series:171
Most, half:26
NOTES
*Tied with Michael Jordan
**Tied with Shaquille O'Neal
***Three times (15/15, 16/16, 18/18)
****Tied with several others, but played most games of any
*****Tied with 12 others
Updated as of 2005-0
Wilt Chamberlain’s NBA Records
With 72 records (68 of which he holds by himself), Wilt Chamberlain dominates the NBA record book. And he's not just the top guy on the lists below. In several cases, he's No. 1, 2 and 3. It's hard to believe that there will ever be another player who can dominate as many statistical categories as the Big Dipper did.
MINUTES
Most seasons leading league:8
Most consecutive seasons leading league:5
Highest average per game, career:45.8
Highest average per game, season:48.5
COMPLETE GAMES
Most, season:79
Most consecutive, season:47
SCORING
Most cons. seasons leading league:*7
Most points, season:4,029
Highest average, season:50.4
Most points, rookie, season:2,707
Highest average, rookie, season:37.6
Most points, game:100
Most points, rookie, game:58
Most games, 50 or more, career:118
Most games, 50 or more, season:45
Most cons.e games, 50 or more points:7
Most games, 40 or more, career:271
Most games, 40 or more, season:63
Most cons. games, 40 or more points:14
Most cons. games, 30 or more points:65
Most cons. games, 20 or more points:126
Most points, one half:59
FIELD-GOAL PERCENTAGE
Most seasons leading league:**9
Most cons. seasons leading league:5
Highest, season (qualifiers):.727
Highest, game (min. 15 FG):***1.000
Most field goals, no misses, game:18
FIELD GOALS
Most cons. seasons leading league:*7
Most, season:1,597
Most cons., no misses, season:35
Most, game:36
Most, one half:22
FIELD GOAL ATTEMPTS
Most cons. seasons leading league:7
Most, season:3,159
Most, game:63
Most, one half:37
Most, one quarter:21
FREE THROWS MADE
Most, game:28
FREE THROW ATTEMPTS
Most seasons leading league:9
Most cons. seasons leading league:6
Most, season:1,363
Most, game:34
REBOUNDS
Most seasons leading league:11
Most, career:23,924
Highest average, career:22.9
Most, season:2,149
Most, rookie, season:1,941
Most seasons, 1,000 or more:13
Highest average, season:27.2
Most, game:55
Most, rookie, game:45
DISQUALIFICATIONS
Lowest percentage, career:****0.00
POINTS, PLAYOFFS
Most by rookie, game:53
MINUTES, PLAYOFFS
Most, 3-game series:144
Most, 4-game series:195
Most, 6-game series:296
FIELD GOALS, PLAYOFFS
Most, 7-game series:113
Most made, game:24
Most attempts, game:28
Most attempts, half:25
FIELD GOAL ATTEMPTS, PLAYOFFS
Most, 3-game series:104
Highest field goal percentage (minimum, 8):1.000*****
REBOUNDS, PLAYOFFS
Most, 5-game series:160
Most, 6-game series:171
Most, 7-game series:220
Highest average, per game, series:32.0
Most, game:41
Most, half:26
Most by rookie, game:35
MINUTES, FINALS
Most, 5-game series:240
REBOUNDS, FINALS
Most, 6-game series:171
Most, half:26
NOTES
*Tied with Michael Jordan
**Tied with Shaquille O'Neal
***Three times (15/15, 16/16, 18/18)
****Tied with several others, but played most games of any
*****Tied with 12 others
Updated as of 2005-0
Glenn
Hall of Famer
I realize that a lot of today's fans have no idea how great a player Wilt was, and a lot of them will say, well, that was then and this is now, and he wouldn't be as dominate today. Well it's a subjective argument that no one can prove one way or the other. I got to see him play in person and on TV, and to me, he's the greatest big man to ever play the game. But it's just my opinion. Lest people are unaware just how great he was, and remember, they didn't keep track of blocked shots when he played. If they had, he'd be right up with Bill Russell as one of the best to ever swat a ball away. Here are some of the records he holds.
Wilt Chamberlain’s NBA Records
With 72 records (68 of which he holds by himself), Wilt Chamberlain dominates the NBA record book. And he's not just the top guy on the lists below. In several cases, he's No. 1, 2 and 3. It's hard to believe that there will ever be another player who can dominate as many statistical categories as the Big Dipper did.
MINUTES
Most seasons leading league:8
Most consecutive seasons leading league:5
Highest average per game, career:45.8
Highest average per game, season:48.5
COMPLETE GAMES
Most, season:79
Most consecutive, season:47
SCORING
Most cons. seasons leading league:*7
Most points, season:4,029
Highest average, season:50.4
Most points, rookie, season:2,707
Highest average, rookie, season:37.6
Most points, game:100
Most points, rookie, game:58
Most games, 50 or more, career:118
Most games, 50 or more, season:45
Most cons.e games, 50 or more points:7
Most games, 40 or more, career:271
Most games, 40 or more, season:63
Most cons. games, 40 or more points:14
Most cons. games, 30 or more points:65
Most cons. games, 20 or more points:126
Most points, one half:59
FIELD-GOAL PERCENTAGE
Most seasons leading league:**9
Most cons. seasons leading league:5
Highest, season (qualifiers):.727
Highest, game (min. 15 FG):***1.000
Most field goals, no misses, game:18
FIELD GOALS
Most cons. seasons leading league:*7
Most, season:1,597
Most cons., no misses, season:35
Most, game:36
Most, one half:22
FIELD GOAL ATTEMPTS
Most cons. seasons leading league:7
Most, season:3,159
Most, game:63
Most, one half:37
Most, one quarter:21
FREE THROWS MADE
Most, game:28
FREE THROW ATTEMPTS
Most seasons leading league:9
Most cons. seasons leading league:6
Most, season:1,363
Most, game:34
REBOUNDS
Most seasons leading league:11
Most, career:23,924
Highest average, career:22.9
Most, season:2,149
Most, rookie, season:1,941
Most seasons, 1,000 or more:13
Highest average, season:27.2
Most, game:55
Most, rookie, game:45
DISQUALIFICATIONS
Lowest percentage, career:****0.00
POINTS, PLAYOFFS
Most by rookie, game:53
MINUTES, PLAYOFFS
Most, 3-game series:144
Most, 4-game series:195
Most, 6-game series:296
FIELD GOALS, PLAYOFFS
Most, 7-game series:113
Most made, game:24
Most attempts, game:28
Most attempts, half:25
FIELD GOAL ATTEMPTS, PLAYOFFS
Most, 3-game series:104
Highest field goal percentage (minimum, 8):1.000*****
REBOUNDS, PLAYOFFS
Most, 5-game series:160
Most, 6-game series:171
Most, 7-game series:220
Highest average, per game, series:32.0
Most, game:41
Most, half:26
Most by rookie, game:35
MINUTES, FINALS
Most, 5-game series:240
REBOUNDS, FINALS
Most, 6-game series:171
Most, half:26
NOTES
*Tied with Michael Jordan
**Tied with Shaquille O'Neal
***Three times (15/15, 16/16, 18/18)
****Tied with several others, but played most games of any
*****Tied with 12 others
Updated as of 2005-0
He also led the league in assists one year with the Lakers. He didn't dunk.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Not sure who, or what your referring to? Since Wilt won a lot of games, and has a couple of rings, it can't be him. However, in general I agree with you, and I suspect that most players would also agree. No one likes to lose.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Yep, about the only thing Wilt couldn't do was hit a three point shot, but then, they didn't have a three point shot when he played. But yes, he was a great passer.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
He couldn't shoot free throws but he tried and tried every way known to man.
KingsFanSince85
All-Star
And let's not forget that he's doing this during an era when it is supposed to be easier to defend and take away post players. Imagine what he might be able to do under the old 3 second rule and without zone defenses. They couldn't front him and have a backside defender close enough to recover.
Even still, I've said it before and I'll say it again, they really should pattern the offense similarly to what Houston did with Olajuwon in the 90's. Surround Boogie with as many 3 point shooters as you can so there is always a proficient shooter available when he kicks the ball out after double and triple teams. That's a tough offense to stop.
The 1993/1994 Rockets had 5 players with at least 100 3pt attempts on the season:
Kenny Smith .405
Mario Elie .335
Matt Bullard .325
Robert Horry .324
Vernon Maxwell .298
The 1994/1995 Rockets had 6 players with at least 100 3pt attempts on the season:
Kenny Smith .429
Mario Elie .398
Robert Horry .379
Clyde Drexler .357
Sam Cassell .330
Vernon Maxwell .324
That's the 2 years they won the Championship. The following 2 years were similar.
This season we have 7 players with at least 100 3pt attempts (with 27 games to go):
Omri Casspi .423
Rajon Rondo .371
Darren Collison .370
Ben McLemore .365
DeMarcus Cousins .362
Rudy Gay .357
Marco Belinelli .300
Looks like we're already there.
Kingsgurl
Starter
It's not just getting used to it, it's a failure to even appreciate what you are seeing..... and that's a shame. Nothing is good enough. Despite being surrounded by dysfunction and despair, he has been the ONE loyal constant who believes we can turn this around. Yet people hold HIM accountable for 'failing to win' surrounded by players and coaches who aren't even in the league anymore because they weren't good enough. Can you even imagine what a stable organization like the Spurs could have done with him?
Sac.Kings
All-Star
Our biggest problem isn't scoring. We can score just fine. We can't stop anyone. Our scheme on defense worked in the 90s and early 00s, but times have changed and George isn't keeping up or refuses to face reality. Teams are shooting the three more than ever before, and are better at it. The thought used to be you would rather give up the three than the two, but I would say it's opposite now. Leaving a man open these days equals death. And we leave everyone open, 90% of the time.
IfAt1st
Starter
Here's what I don;t get :
How does a guy play that many (absurd amounts of minutes), but not foul out often?
Did they just not call many fouls back then?
Was he protected by the officials?
Was he a perfect defender and never touched anyone?
Nowadays you get fouls called on you even if you don't touch your man - what explains a physical player like Wilt fouling out so little?
Hoovtrain
All-Star
I really enjoyed his defense last night where he wasn't even in the frame because he was too busy pissing and moaning at the other end of the floor while the Spurs took advantage...on some pivotal possessions I might add...actually all possessions are pivotal when you are giving away free points. he needs to pull his head out of his ass and stop this crap because this is accomplishing nothing except giving away points to the other team
Cousins, when back, has been very good on defense. Thought he did a much better job closing out to shooters in the Spurs game as well. Overall he's definitely not one of our biggest weaknesses defensively. But he does tend to take way way too long to get back on D, at times not even bothering to cross halfcourt. That was very glaring in the Spurs game as well. And when the rest of your team does not consist of good defenders, giving up multiple 5 on 4 situations is probably not a good idea.
rhythmless
Starter
When your big leader is leaving his teammates out to dry, it grates on players. If your star isn't even trying to play defense, why should anyone else? You kill energy like this. It's inexcusable. And even the announcers said so. Too tired to play D? Then you're too tired. Go get a breather. But don't just sit there waiting for the ball, run into 3 guys, put up a crap shot, then let your teammates go 4 on 5. That's a jerk move.
Boogie_Fever
G-League
I'll just leave this here. 
IfAt1st
Starter
There appears to be some serious cross-talking (each side not hearing what the others are saying) on KF's lately:
* It's quite clear that the Kings' defense (and each player) is much better with DMC on the floor
however, the following is also true:
* Demarcus is hurting the team with his repeated drives to the basket which end up with him on the ground and/or barking to the official, instead of immediately getting back to play defense.
Both of these statements can be, and are, true.
* It's quite clear that the Kings' defense (and each player) is much better with DMC on the floor
however, the following is also true:
* Demarcus is hurting the team with his repeated drives to the basket which end up with him on the ground and/or barking to the official, instead of immediately getting back to play defense.
Both of these statements can be, and are, true.
rhythmless
Starter
Well put. Overall, DMC is a good defender. But he leaves so much on the table. I'm appreciative of what he gives, but I'm watching a generational talent hold himself back from being an all time great. In games, he goes from great defender to nonexistent.
The only thing stopping him from being a great defender is being present. He doesn't even need to practice a skill or a move. Just get back there and move on to the next play.
