http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...rcus-cousins-sacramento-kings-maloof/1798287/
As if we needed another reason to dislike the Maloofs.
As if we needed another reason to dislike the Maloofs.
DeMarcus Cousins divides opinions of Sacramento Kings
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Glenn
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And another reason to dislike Smart. Smart demands and deserves respect from his players but when he is told by his boss to do something, he reinstates Cousins and then passive aggressively doesn't let Cousins come with the team to Portland. He's in a way disobeying his boss. That's like flipping someone off when they aren't looking. The only good thing I can get from this is that Smart's disobedience might cost him his job. I personally would like to see him finish out the year unless we can snag a great coach immediately to replace him. What a fluster cuck. Simply inserting an assistant coach would probably go nowhere.
The article didn't really say who did what so I may be off base but even the dolts at the helm must be getting the idea something is wrong and it isn't only Cousins that is the problem. Gavin didn't help but neither did Smart. What's new?
When will this nightmare be over?
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
That story is interesting in so many different ways that focusing on the issue of Demarcus's reinstatement is almost missng the forest for the trees. If Amick knows all this, and this is what I was saying about his report on the situation back on Christmas Eve, but if he knows all this, its an almost unprecedented look at the politics inside the Kings' organization. Much danger, some promising possibiliies. Who knows how it goes.
Bballkingsrock
All-Star
The Maloofs have now obviously shown they want an NBA team to basically have full control of the entire team such as drafting, trading, when and who to punish, firings, etc. The Maloofs, from their personality, want an NBA team like an ordinary fan playing NBA 2k in franchise mode. Heck, if they could, they would be playing on the team.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
They're the NBA version of decrepit Al Davis
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Surprised it doesn't happen more often. The difference I think is the degree to which most owners truly are detached rich guys running other businesses and hiring underlings to take care of this one. The Maloofs however come to this thing like a familiy legacy, they've lost all their businesses, this IS their business now. So having them perched in the owner's box trying to micromanage everything would not be surprising. Wondering what GM worth his salt they could possibly hire to work under those conditions though.
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PurpleHaze
All-Star
Maloofs are obvious control freaks with Georgie the head freak. I never bought for one second their, "Kings are not for sale" endless pitch. The bidding starts at $500 million proves they have a price and someone is likely to pay it. Of course, that number only gets larger when debt they owe is factored plus possible relocation fee. I just hope someone local can bid and soon because I think odds are greater that a party not beholden to Sacramento is more likely to step in or even outbid any local group.
There is just so much wrong with what Gavin did I don't even know where to start. You can make a pretty good argument that they are blatantly destroying the franchise. This action shows that Petrie is officially neutered and Smart is a limbo coach. The players haven't completely given up yet, but they are totally on their own at this point.
Even if these morons manage to move this franchise, it's dead in the water. As much as they have burned the fan base here, they have lit a match to their family name and torched it as well. I think they don't even have a clue that they threw themselves under the bus.
Even if these morons manage to move this franchise, it's dead in the water. As much as they have burned the fan base here, they have lit a match to their family name and torched it as well. I think they don't even have a clue that they threw themselves under the bus.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Think that may be overdramatizing it a bit. There have been similar occurences down in Lakerland for instance. They seem to survive.
But I do think that it may show that Petrie really is on the way out now, that that is not just speculation or wishlisting. And frankly the Maloofs made the decision that the more improtant relationship going foward was between them and Cousins, not them and Geoff. That also means its very unlikely they would let Geoff trade away Boogie as his last act before exiting stage left. Which is frankly a good thing too.
Now DeMarcus has not earned it yet, but elite players on nearly any team, the superstar "so and so" and the "so and sos" players routinely have personal relationships with the owners of those franchises. They in fact are the most important employees those owners have, not the coaches or GM. If the Mavs wanted to suspend Dirk tommorow, you don't think it would have to pass through Cuban first?
HereWeBoogie
Hall of Famer
Dave said maybe the Maloofs pushed for DeMarcus to be reinstated to save the value of the franchise because maybe, just maybe, they might actually sell the team. we can all hope!
Bballkingsrock
All-Star
You can't forget their extravagant Vodka and skateboarding companies now.
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LWP777
Guest
Wouldn't that be a nice New Year's gift for all of us!
HereWeBoogie
Hall of Famer
sure would! and its not too far fetched since according to Amick, the Maloofs are throwing out numbers for "if" they decided to sell the team.
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LWP777
Guest
Amick usually knows what's going on so that's great. If they are throwing out numbers then I would have to think that they would at least entertain selling the team if the price was right.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
$3.72
It depends on how desperate they really are. They of course are going to claim they're not hurting so they can get a higher price. Any potential buyers are surely aware of this and are offering liquidation prices. Looking at their financial history, Maloof's will likely be forced to take what they can get. Period.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
What a freaking disaster. This article shows how weak this organization is (if you really needed any evidence to begin with). So now you have the numbskull owners managing the numbskull Cousins, while undermining the GM and the coach. That's the perfect recipe for disaster. Call FEMA now. I find it extremely difficult to believe that there is a infinitesimal ray of silver lining behind all of this. All along, the safe default assumption with the Maloofs is to think the worst. Don't believe for a second that the sale of the team is imminent. That's too intelligent for these idiots. They will always make the wrong decision. Any "decision" they finally make will be forced upon them, not of their own making. They are the classic bumblers, who never take the bull by the horns, but are left gored at the end.
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LWP777
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I completely agree with this. It's probably a pipe dream to think that they will sell but I guess it never hurts to dream, right? Like you said though, there may be a time when they really have no other choice other than to sell. I don't think they are liquid enough to continue owning this team in Sacramento much longer (so it's either sell or find a way to move the team and get bailed out).
jcwkings
All-Star
Dirk is a respected superstar vet, that is a TRUE PROFESSIONAL and has won a ring as "The Man"/ #1 option. Cousins is a 22 year old punk kid that doesn't know the meaning of professionalism. He is not a superstar nor will he ever be if he doesn't mature and become a professional. Your love for Cousins is just ridiculous, even to the point where you will defend the entitled rich boys with no clue of how a basketball teams works, over guys that dedicated their lives to the sport (Smart/Petrie). Pathetic
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Amick usually does his homework, so I'd say the article has credibility. As I said the other day, I'd heard that the Maloofs and Petrie were hardly speaking to one another, and this varifies it. Frankly, I think its long past the time for Petrie to hang them up. My fear is that someone within the orginization will be promoted to GM, and not much will change. The Kings need new blood! A different way of looking at things. And hopefully, someone with experience, and a good track record. Of course, if Petrie has been powerless the last few years, its possible that the Maloofs will just hire a yes man, but one can always hope.
I find their asking price of 500 mil almost laughable. And they ask that price because they think the franchise is mobile. So I assume that they think the value of the franchise has nothing to do with the state of the team, or where its currently playing, but only on where the team might be able to move to. And where would that be? Virginia Beach, which is a smaller market than Sacramento. Back to Kansas City, which is a divided market with two other major league teams there. I grew up in St. Louis, and I've been to Kansas City many times. Trust me, Kansas City isn't New York or L.A. The NBA has already ruled out Anaheim, but even if they did allow it, I believe they put a 100 mil relocation fee on the move. So now your up to 600 mil.
The whole thing is like a dark comedy, except the joke is on us. Don't think for a moment that I haven't thought about becoming a Clipper fan. They're a hell of a lot closer to where I live, and it would be nice to just root for a team without all the drama. My problem is that my heart is in Sacramento, so I'm dammed to endure this. So I'll continue to light candles at my Kings shrine in hope that a rich person comes riding in on a white horse and saves the day. Or, David Stern as one of his last acts, don's his black armor, mounts his large black horse, and rides toward Sacramento with bad intentions toward the Maloofs.
Hey, I can dream, can't I? Sacramento having a major league anything was once a dream. Then it was a reality. And now, its a nightmare. But then, a nightmare is a dream too!
I find their asking price of 500 mil almost laughable. And they ask that price because they think the franchise is mobile. So I assume that they think the value of the franchise has nothing to do with the state of the team, or where its currently playing, but only on where the team might be able to move to. And where would that be? Virginia Beach, which is a smaller market than Sacramento. Back to Kansas City, which is a divided market with two other major league teams there. I grew up in St. Louis, and I've been to Kansas City many times. Trust me, Kansas City isn't New York or L.A. The NBA has already ruled out Anaheim, but even if they did allow it, I believe they put a 100 mil relocation fee on the move. So now your up to 600 mil.
The whole thing is like a dark comedy, except the joke is on us. Don't think for a moment that I haven't thought about becoming a Clipper fan. They're a hell of a lot closer to where I live, and it would be nice to just root for a team without all the drama. My problem is that my heart is in Sacramento, so I'm dammed to endure this. So I'll continue to light candles at my Kings shrine in hope that a rich person comes riding in on a white horse and saves the day. Or, David Stern as one of his last acts, don's his black armor, mounts his large black horse, and rides toward Sacramento with bad intentions toward the Maloofs.
Hey, I can dream, can't I? Sacramento having a major league anything was once a dream. Then it was a reality. And now, its a nightmare. But then, a nightmare is a dream too!
lwc
Starter
The matter that keeps throwing me is: how long can the Maloofs remain idle? Not investing money into their product but also not selling and not moving?
I wonder why Seattle hasnt been looked at as an option? Seattle wants a team and the Maloofs want a move. (I want the Kings to stay, I am just wondering why that hasnt been explored)
I wonder why Seattle hasnt been looked at as an option? Seattle wants a team and the Maloofs want a move. (I want the Kings to stay, I am just wondering why that hasnt been explored)
HereWeBoogie
Hall of Famer
^ it has, where have you been lol
Seattle is building an arena.
Seattle is building an arena.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
I never thought I'd defend Bricky, but I think your offbase here. Bricky hasn't declared any love for Cousins the man, but with the potential of Cousins the player, and what that value could be to the franchise. Whether you happen to agree or not, that Cousins is a rare commodity that doesn't come around very often, is immaterial, because its subjective. Some of us think thats the case, and some don't, and some simply don't care either way. But there's a distinct difference between looking at a franchise's value, and a player that could be a difference maker, and being in love with the player himself, or his actions.
What Bricky stated, about some players having a personal relationship with the owners of a team, happens to be true, and thats not in any way a defense of the Maloofs. Its just stating facts, and in this particular case, the possible decision of the Maloofs not to trade Cousins, is a good one in Bricky's opinion. But thats hardly an endorsement of the Maloofs. They just happened to make the right decision in this case. At least as far as Bricky is concerned. And, at least for now, I happen to agree with him. Its rare for any kneejerk decision to be a good one. Its always best to let the fires cool down, the smoke clear, and then decide what you want to do.
Now where I disagree with the Maloofs is with their reinstatement of Cousins without even consulting Petrie, or talking to him at all. But apparently the two sides have been on the outs for some time now, so maybe it wasn't that unusual for them. The person getting jerked around in all of this, and no surprise here, is Cousins. Because of the internal feuding within the orginization, there's no cohesiveness, just chaos. As someone on another website said, if you raise a dog with a pack of wolves, don't be surprised if your dog acts like a wolf. Point being, the current inviorment is hardly the place for a troubled young man with problems to solve those problems.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
The only hope is David Stern or his successor, who would force the Maloofs to sell on the one hand, and maybe induce them to sell with some cash, on the other. If the NBA doesn't step in, the Maloofs will continue to make desperate decisions for short term financial gain and ride this asset down like the worst slumlord.
ParniValjak
All-Star
Don't sweat my friend. The wheel is turning, the Maloofs will sell or NBA will take over. Within 2 years (max) Kings will be owned by new owners who will want to keep the Kings in Sacramento and put a winning product on the floor.
You are right, Petrie will either hang them up before the season is up or his contract won't be renewed at the end of the season. Someone internally will be appointed, probably SAR and he will be a yes man or a front man for the Maloofs who will be making all the decisions which at this point probably is not that bad because they will likely want to keep the young nucleus intact.
Once new owners take over, there will be a new front office, new coaching crew and things will turn. I am a firm believer that Maloofs will not own the team for much longer. Still a fair bit of pain to go through but it will be worth it in the end.
Couldn't agree more. Never thought I would say this BUT thank god Maloofs got in on this one, otherwise Cousins would be on the way out of Sacramento for some flexible pieces. At least this way, we know that the owners are not interested in trading him at least for a while yet so I have no doubt that at this point in time, that is a good thing for us.
Is Cousins high maintenance?! Yes!
Do you throw the baby out with the bath water? No!
The point is, if you get rid of Cousins at this stage, you are treating the symptom and not the cause of the problem. Cousins sure needs to smarten up but by changing other things within the organization that is in DESPERATE need of those changes, a lot of the causes get eliminated and Cousins becomes a lot less problematic in all this and certainly manageable.
lwc
Starter
Okay. I thought they were seeking an expansion team. I didnt know the Kings were a possibility. Now it makes more sense.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Oh, I defend pretty much whoever gets it right on a particular issue. Many of you lack that ability and need a nice simple story with permanent black hats and white hats. I on the other hand am focused on outcomes. Whoever wants to pull for the outcomes that I think need to happen gets to be white hats for the day. If the story is correct the Maloofs didn't handle this well, they never handle anything well. But their priorities were correct, and they have every right to do whatever they want with their asset. Geoff is just an employee. Its not his franchise. If he's on the outs after this season no owner in the world is going to let their aging soon to retire manager make huge business altering decisions that will linger loing after he's gone without their say so.
Now of course the truth of the matter is you are being a hypocrite. Your irrational despite for Cousins is so great that you needed a particular outcome too. If the report had been Geoff wanted to save Cousins but the Maloofs had stepped in to suspend him and now were trying to trade him over Geoff's objections you'd be happy as a clam.
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You might want to check out the New Arena forum. Lots of interesting stuff there about Seattle. Primarily, Seattle only comes into play if the Maloofs want to sell. The money there doesn't want an NBA tenant. They want to own (once again) an NBA team. The team would be welcome, the Maloofs not.
