Deadspin NBA **** List: Toney Douglas, The Little Engine That Couldn't

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http://deadspin.com/5952854/deadspin-nba-****-list-toney-douglas-the-little-engine-that-couldnt

For those of you thinking Toney Douglas is somehow a good add to this team

"I've always had a low tolerance for other people's embarrassment. I can't help but put myself into that person's shoes—I run a flop sweat; I fidget; my skin feels like it wants to crawl off my body. That's just the way I am. Even the simulated awkwardness of Larry David or Michael Scott is enough to drive me to pace my living room. So this humiliation-empathy situation of mine meant that watching Toney Douglas play for the Knicks last season drove me to the brink of eye-clawing madness."
 
Doesn't this speak more about our team than it does Douglas?

In all seriousness, it's Deadspin. I'm guessing it would be like some here writing about Cousins.
 
Sounds like a random deadbeat blogger to me but what do I know. You can tell this is a slow day. The sun is shining and it is warm in Sacramrnto. Good day.
 
bajaden said:
My god, who cares?
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agreed. the issue is not whether toney douglas is a good or bad addition to this team, it's that toney douglas is an irrelevant addition to this team. bringing him to sacramento could hardly even be called a sideways move. it quite literally has zero impact on the future direction of the kings. i will not care if he's their 12th man or if he's shipped out of town, personally, though i suppose i would prefer the latter if douglas was traded as part of a package that brought the right kind of complementary talent back in the deal...
 
Deadspin has absolutely no relevance to the state of our franchise. Read the rest of the stuff they post and you would see that too.
 
LOL, why are you guys focusing on that its from Deadspin. The article is from about as reputable of a source as you can be on the ability of Toney Douglas. That is the only reason I posted it. It has nothing to do with the state of our franchise. People have been saying he's pretty good, or not that bad, and that is just not true.
 
macadocious said:
LOL, why are you guys focusing on that its from Deadspin. The article is from about as reputable of a source as you can be on the ability of Toney Douglas. That is the only reason I posted it. It has nothing to do with the state of our franchise. People have been saying he's pretty good, or not that bad, and that is just not true.
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Reputable would be NBA scouts, scouting reports, other players or actual NBA analysts. Not a Internet blogger.
 
The writer was 80% sure he was writing about Toney Douglas...

Still, players can improve. Not that I care about TD, but he's at least made the most of his stint here in sac.
 
Are you guys serious? Who do you guys follow on twitter to get your NBA info. Zach Lowe is probably the best NBA writer out there. Used to write for SI and now writes on Grantland. Voulgaris is probably the largest gambler on NBA games in the world and has created algorithms and advanced metrics. He alone is probably better than half of the scouting departments & GM's on NBA teams.

I am literally shocked you guys don't know who these people are.
 
macadocious said:
Are you guys serious? Who do you guys follow on twitter to get your NBA info. Zach Lowe is probably the best NBA writer out there. Used to write for SI and now writes on Grantland. Voulgaris is probably the largest gambler on NBA games in the world and has created algorithms and advanced metrics. He alone is probably better than half of the scouting departments & GM's on NBA teams.

I am literally shocked you guys don't know who these people are.
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Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't get my NBA info from Twitter. The only time I pay attention to Twitter is when somebody tweets something funny.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't get my NBA info from Twitter. The only time I pay attention to Twitter is when somebody tweets something funny.
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I mean, where else do you get it from these days? It's not like you can read the Bee or USA today like you could in the 90's. Anything that you would get at any big box (ESPN, etc.) will be on twitter.

EDIT: I fought twitter for awhile, but it's pretty much the only place to get info now. Any writer or reporter worth his mud is tweeting prior to writing an article.
 
Ignoring the question of source for a moment, this article remains largely irrelevant for an entierly different reason -- it was a little opportunistic piece of snark about a guy having an uncommonly bad season. And Douglas DID have an uncommonly bad season. Thing is, as the writer of this story surely knew, Douglas's uncommonly bad season had little to do with his first couple of seasons, or as it turns out with this season.

Here are his NBA years:
09-10: 8.6pts (.458 .389 .809) 2.0ast/1.0TO
10-11: 10.6pts (.416 .373 .794) 3.0ast/1.1TO
11-12: 6.2pts (.324 .231 .846) 2.0ast/1.5TO <-- article written
12-13: 7.7pts (.386 .366 .890) 2.0ast/1.2TO

One of these things is not like the others, and that just happens to have been when the writer pounced. Suddenly Douglas could not shoot at all. It would be a bit like a writer writing a piece ripping on Thornton a few weeks back because of how miserable he has been this year. Yes, he has (until recently). But that hardly typifies his career (although you might make the argument it does typify his career when asked to come off the bench).
 
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macadocious said:
I mean, where else do you get it from these days? It's not like you can read the Bee or USA today like you could in the 90's. Anything that you would get at any big box (ESPN, etc.) will be on twitter.
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:: shrugs ::

In the first place, who says I can't? I don't live in Sacramento, but they still sell USA Today in Georgia. In the second place... let's just say that my specific internet habits are not conducive to the use of Twitter, and leave it at that.
 
macadocious said:
Are you guys serious? Who do you guys follow on twitter to get your NBA info. Zach Lowe is probably the best NBA writer out there. Used to write for SI and now writes on Grantland. Voulgaris is probably the largest gambler on NBA games in the world and has created algorithms and advanced metrics. He alone is probably better than half of the scouting departments & GM's on NBA teams.

I am literally shocked you guys don't know who these people are.
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Continue to be shocked. I don't follow Twitter and don't have a clue as to who those people are. I feel like I am surviving. Not everyone is like you and those that aren't may still have an adequate knowledge of basketball. You're shocked??? That's hilarious.
 
You guys are missing the point. I'm not saying you can't read USA today, I'm saying they don't have the best/only information anymore. News feeds are getting much more specific. ESPN does a horrible job covering anything that isn't Heat/Yankees/NFL, they have not been a good sports info source in a long time. The Bee is almost always 2-3 days behind. I read stuff on the kings from Bruski/Probasketballdraft/Carmichael dave/Z.lowe etc., then the Bee prints 1-2 days later.
 
Glenn said:
Continue to be shocked. I don't follow Twitter and don't have a clue as to who those people are. I feel like I am surviving. Not everyone is like you and those that aren't may still have an adequate knowledge of basketball. You're shocked??? That's hilarious.
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Someone posted a 30 minute interview with the GM of the Rockets on this site with Zach Lowe just a couple days ago. Did you not see that? So yes I am shocked when people don't know who he is.
 
macadocious said:
You guys are missing the point. I'm not saying you can't read USA today, I'm saying they don't have the best/only information anymore. News feeds are getting much more specific. ESPN does a horrible job covering anything that isn't Heat/Yankees/NFL, they have not been a good sports info source in a long time. The Bee is almost always 2-3 days behind. I read stuff on the kings from Bruski/Probasketballdraft/Carmichael dave/Z.lowe etc., then the Bee prints 1-2 days later.
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We're not missing the point. At least, I'm not. I grok in fullness that Twitter, et al. are valuable resources for those who desire instant access to information, at all times. The point that I think that you're not getting, is that not all of us are burdened by the need to have instant access to information. I'm not particularly old, but I reached adulthood before there was really a 24-hour news cycle, such as it exists today. I don't have to have it "now"; I'm happy to get it whenever I get it. It might not be where I'm looking when the story breaks, but it'll be there soon enough to suit me.
 
OK well I guess we were miscommunicating. I don't HAVE to have info now. Although, with all this relocation saga I have read twitter more than I ever have or wanted to.

That being said, twitter has allowed many very knowledgeable people to write where they didn't have the chance at large print company. I believe that many of these people have better knowledge than the Ric Buchers of the world. Hell, I think Bricklayer is more knowledgeable than a lot of the big box writers, minus his hatred for Jimmer.
 
macadocious said:
OK well I guess we were miscommunicating. I don't HAVE to have info now. Although, with all this relocation saga I have read twitter more than I ever have or wanted to.

That being said, twitter has allowed many very knowledgeable people to write where they didn't have the chance at large print company. I believe that many of these people have better knowledge than the Ric Buchers of the world. Hell, I think Bricklayer is more knowledgeable than a lot of the big box writers, minus his hatred for Jimmer.
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Thank you...I think. :p

And as I have mentioend before I have never missed a single shot for Jimmer, nor turned it over under pressure or blown a defensive assignment and blamed it on him.
 
Um, I just started following twitter a few weeks ago to follow the arena stuff and it will go back to not being important to me once this is over, one way or the other.

I don't need to follow NBA writers, etc. I watch Kings games and enjoy myself. That's enough.
 
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