De'Aaron Fox Traded to Spurs for Zach Lavine, three first round picks

[pdxKingsFan]

Didn't we use picks and players we got back in the Fox trade to make the Jonas and LaRavia deals?

I don't understand how anyone can justify keeping Mike Brown on after our start if he wasn't willing to make some changes to his assistant staff.

 

[GWD]

Didn't we use picks and players we got back in the Fox trade to make the Jonas and LaRavia deals?

I don't understand how anyone can justify keeping Mike Brown on after our start if he wasn't willing to make some changes to his assistant staff.

It seems odd that one of the assistant staff was directed to be fired and yet the Kings still have the same assistant staff under the new coach. Something is amiss in the report, or the logic, or the reality, or the purpose, or ...(who knows).

 

[pdxKingsFan]

It seems odd that one of the assistant staff was directed to be fired and yet the Kings still have the same assistant staff under the new coach. Something is amiss in the report, or the logic, or the reality, or the purpose, or ...(who knows).

All we have is speculation based around a leak that probably came from Fox's camp that it was Luke Loucks or Jay Triano, the "defensive coordinator" or the associate head coach. Both make sense to have been on the hot seat. I can see if it was Luke that they would think maybe Doug would have moved into that D-coordinator role and by making him head coach it would produce the same result? It's also slightly hard to see the wisdom in firing Triano - an experienced head coach - while making Doug a first time head coach.

I have a feeling if Doug is retained that one or both may not be back next year.

 

[GWD]

It remains unusual for a new head coach, even an interim, to retain a previous coach's assistants. Especially so when the head coach was chosen over those two assistants who were higher on the organization chart. There is likely some underlying, and natural, resentment.

Additionally, the play is eerily familiar to what was seen by the fired coach. The fresh approach by the new coach should be supported by a fresh set of assistants that will present a united front. I would favor letting the two assistants go now, regardless of their credentials.

 

[hrdboild]

Didn't we use picks and players we got back in the Fox trade to make the Jonas and LaRavia deals?

I don't understand how anyone can justify keeping Mike Brown on after our start if he wasn't willing to make some changes to his assistant staff.

The Valanciunas trade included one of our own second round picks, a conditional 2nd round pick from the Nuggets (that was acquired in the Fox trade) and Sidy Cissoko who the Wizards promptly waived. Surely there would have been cheaper ways to acquire 1 conditional second round pick.

Our part in the bigger Marcus Smart trade where we got back LaRavia was to send Alex Len and Colby Jones to Washington and one of our own second round picks to Memphis.

 

[sactowndog]

It may have been the last straw from a DeAaron publicity perspective, but it just seems all too likely he was gone regardless. Maybe he would have been a happy camper throughout the rest of this year, but seems highly likely he reiterates again at the end of the season that he's not signing the extension and we move him then (with the same public messaging that the Spurs are his desired destination).

I agree but that is as much an indictment of Monte as Fox. Monte should have acted much sooner.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

The correct thing to do to get maximum value I guess would have been to blindside Fox with a trade but if that isn't going to get the Kangziest Kangz response ever without the hindsight of knowing how this season played out I can't imagine what would.

 

[QWERTYLICIOUS]

The correct thing to do to get maximum value I guess would have been to blindside Fox with a trade but if that isn't going to get the Kangziest Kangz response ever without the hindsight of knowing how this season played out I can't imagine what would.

Yeah, no matter how you sliced this whole Fox saga, no one side would've ever come out of it a clear winner over the other.

 

[Joshyjosh31]

You know what Monte has to explain how he didn’t get a single hawks pick. Doesn’t matter if fox blew up his value they have too many assets to come out with the garbage picks we got. They give up a hawks pick or nothing not like you’re winning even a round with Lavine so not getting him isn’t a back deal

 

[Warhawk]

Kings "Fans" on twitter are so damn exhausting holy crap

That's one of a couple reasons why I locked down my account there and deleted the app. I've been a lot happier since then.

 

[SLAB]

Personally, I'm so sick of underachieving, legend-in-his-own-mind, one-time All Start De'Aaron Fox, good riddance!! Who cares what he has to say.

one-time (injury replacement) All-Star

 

[ockingsfan]

It remains unusual for a new head coach, even an interim, to retain a previous coach's assistants. Especially so when the head coach was chosen over those two assistants who were higher on the organization chart. There is likely some underlying, and natural, resentment.

Additionally, the play is eerily familiar to what was seen by the fired coach. The fresh approach by the new coach should be supported by a fresh set of assistants that will present a united front. I would favor letting the two assistants go now, regardless of their credentials.

That may still happen, but it would seem difficult to get good assistant coaches in the middle of the season. Especially coaches that would be familiar with your players.

I expect there will be some turnover in the assistant coaching staff this summer, if DC is retained.

 

[Turgenev]

Didn't we use picks and players we got back in the Fox trade to make the Jonas and LaRavia deals?

I don't understand how anyone can justify keeping Mike Brown on after our start if he wasn't willing to make some changes to his assistant staff.

Mike Brown lost his job because the team kept losing. Sorry to patronize everyone by stating the obvious.

 

[MizzouKing]

That's one of a couple reasons why I locked down my account there and deleted the app. I've been a lot happier since then.

Hopefully the toxic ones will stay over there and out of Bluesky. Generally a more positive vibe.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

The correct thing to do to get maximum value I guess would have been to blindside Fox with a trade but if that isn't going to get the Kangziest Kangz response ever without the hindsight of knowing how this season played out I can't imagine what would.

It would have depended on who and what the return was. A really good or great return would have resulted in a really good reaction from many

 

[sactowndog]

The correct thing to do to get maximum value I guess would have been to blindside Fox with a trade but if that isn't going to get the Kangziest Kangz response ever without the hindsight of knowing how this season played out I can't imagine what would.

If you are more worried about PR than making the correct strategic move get a new job. It’s exactly that kind of thinking that prevented them from making the Barnes trade.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

If you are more worried about PR than making the correct strategic move get a new job. It’s exactly that kind of thinking that prevented them from making the Barnes trade.

If they shipped him before the start of the season it would go beyond the bad fan PR - which would be on par with Luka in Dallas situation right now - it would damage relationship with players and agents because the implication they cost Fox shot at the super max (which again looms large in the Luka situation beyond the fan damage).

Nobody would have cared if Barnes was traded for picks lol. Seriously? These are not even in the same category.

 

[TaxMan]

Hopefully the toxic ones will stay over there and out of Bluesky. Generally a more positive vibe.

I would recommend detoxing and staying off all social media altogether. I’m only here and a couple other forums that are focused on topics I am passionate about. Even if blue sky is a kinder gentler twitter, I feel like my mental state is much better without the instant feedback/death scroll in my life.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I would recommend detoxing and staying off all social media altogether. I’m only here and a couple other forums that are focused on topics I am passionate about. Even if blue sky is a kinder gentler twitter, I feel like my mental state is much better without the instant feedback/death scroll in my life.

Bluesky isn't a kinder gentler twitter but it doesn't seem to force an algorithm on you so you can curate your own feed that avoids the insanity that ruined twitter. Problem is the content isn't there.

 

[NewArena]

I may be wrong, but did Fox ever tweet or cheer our team on during the winning streak when he missed those 3 games? Wild how he somehow always found a way to tweet when it came to defending himself over the most ridiculous things, like his takes on college basketball and blah blah.

 

[NewArena]

Bluesky isn't a kinder gentler twitter but it doesn't seem to force an algorithm on you so you can curate your own feed that avoids the insanity that ruined twitter. Problem is the content isn't there.

It's growing every day but you're right. The lack of drama and abundance of hate is also why a lot of people find it boring and don't add to the content, unfortunately. It's the same reason why the "Any questions" threads are always 2-3 pages while the crying and moaning threads often reach 60 lol

 

[kingsfan_4Life]

such an awesome video

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1889339652559270296

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I'm at peace with this but the package was not "enticing".

 

[The_Jamal]

I'm at peace with this but the package was not "enticing".

I mean yeah, but GM can't come out and say "Yeah, Fox had us by the throat and it was pretty much accept this deal or our franchise remains in turmoil for another 7 months"

I guess the one thing I'd be curious about is how forthright Fox was about the extension talks this last off-season. Did he just string us along with the "Oh, I'm just going for the All-NBA, that's the only reason I'm not signing" or was he more honest with his intentions to go to SAS?

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I mean yeah, but GM can't come out and say "Yeah, Fox had us by the throat and it was pretty much accept this deal or our franchise remains in turmoil for another 7 months"

I guess the one thing I'd be curious about is how forthright Fox was about the extension talks this last off-season. Did he just string us along with the "Oh, I'm just going for the All-NBA, that's the only reason I'm not signing" or was he more honest with his intentions to go to SAS?

That isn't really what he said though because the question was asked in the context of making the decision whether to keep Fox or move on.

That package wasn't enticing to move on. It's fine as a package from a star who has publicly demanded a trade to one team and one team only who has completely sapped all the air out of the locker room in the process and cratered the team right after a win streak. But that wasn't the question Jason asked.