De'Aaron Fox Traded to Spurs for Zach Lavine, three first round picks
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So according to DLo, Fox told him that he was a king 100% until the kings fired Mike brown. He told the kings he will not play for another coach. So according to Fox, this 100% on the kings.
if the kings had it in their head that they were gonna fire mike brown why couldn’t they hold out until they traded fox first, to maximize his return?
if the kings had it in their head that they were gonna fire mike brown why couldn’t they hold out until they traded fox first, to maximize his return?
I sure don't. Brown was collateral damage. Fox wasn't trying to get MB fired, but his play sure didn't help MB keep his job.
I think Fox ideally wanted the Kings season to implode from his lackadaisical play and the Kings going nowhere fast, so that he can look like the good guy that just wanted to win. He didn't want MB to get fired but the Kings season was sunk at that point and a change needed to be made. And once the season turned around with DC as coach, he quickly pivoted to having his team leak that the Kings approached teams about trading for him and to his surprise, that team was SA!!! Pure coincidence I'm sure, NOT!!!
He couldn't risk the Kings waiting until the summer to trade him, because it would decrease the contract he could sign with SA. I don't believe any of the BS that Fox is spewing now. It's all spin. He checked out at the beginning of the year.
If we didn't fire Brown and Brown wouldn't shuffle his staff, and we finish 20 games under .500 is Fox staying? lol.
Fox can't really handle a press interview with tough questions but they are very social media savvy and know exactly how to shape their narrative using the fans' already negative views on the ownership and front office to sell it. Who knows how long they've been planting the seeds for this with little leaks fed to people with influence on social media spaces and radio shows.
And there is so much vitriol towards Vivek who has largely stepped back and let Monte and Wes do their thing as if anyone wants a meddling owner. There are very few good meddling owners. Even those who start off hot become Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft eventually.
Fox can't really handle a press interview with tough questions but they are very social media savvy and know exactly how to shape their narrative using the fans' already negative views on the ownership and front office to sell it. Who knows how long they've been planting the seeds for this with little leaks fed to people with influence on social media spaces and radio shows.
And there is so much vitriol towards Vivek who has largely stepped back and let Monte and Wes do their thing as if anyone wants a meddling owner. There are very few good meddling owners. Even those who start off hot become Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft eventually.
I almost think that egregious mistake was done on purpose. But, I digress. 
The shear timing of when that occurred was a peak (Kang's) ironic moment. Almost couldn't have written up that whole scenario in a believable way.....but it really happened. Almost as if it was meant to be, for whatever reason
Not signing the extension is surely all the org needs to prove who is telling the truth. Both sides agreed it was offered. Speculation around the league was Fox was done with the Kings and the extension was proof. But there was a cope: Fox was merely holding out for the Designated Veteran Exception (the 35% of cap flavored super-max).
By my count 4 players have signed the DVE and gone on to win a championship after signing (Jaylen Brown, Steph Curry, Giannis and Nicola Jokic). Jason Tatum signed one immediately after winning a championship last year.
The others are: Russ, Harden, Wall, Dame, Gobert, Embiid, Booker, and KAT.
Players who refused to sign one include Kawhi and AD who immediately won chips with their next team.
Anyways, the track record for winning after signing this extension is not good. The Celtics already had a Finals appearance before Brown signed, Steph already had several rings, and Giannis and Nicola were widely regarded the two best players in the league. If Fox valued winning he would not have prioritized it. Of course if he had gone out and earned it last year we would have made the playoffs, Brown would be coach, and all of this would be moot.
By my count 4 players have signed the DVE and gone on to win a championship after signing (Jaylen Brown, Steph Curry, Giannis and Nicola Jokic). Jason Tatum signed one immediately after winning a championship last year.
The others are: Russ, Harden, Wall, Dame, Gobert, Embiid, Booker, and KAT.
Players who refused to sign one include Kawhi and AD who immediately won chips with their next team.
Anyways, the track record for winning after signing this extension is not good. The Celtics already had a Finals appearance before Brown signed, Steph already had several rings, and Giannis and Nicola were widely regarded the two best players in the league. If Fox valued winning he would not have prioritized it. Of course if he had gone out and earned it last year we would have made the playoffs, Brown would be coach, and all of this would be moot.
Winning obviously wasn’t Fox’s motivation since he quit once we started winning. His long goal was to go to SA. I think he was 100% committed for THIS year, knowing Brown would use him at a high rate to boost his stats, make the all star team, and get that super max. THEN force his way out later. But once he realized none of that was happening he checked out and wanted out now using the firing of MB or “Monte never improved the team” excuses to make himself not the bad guy.
I believe any chance of him staying ended with Mike Brown getting fired. The team record before that was disappointing but the team was playing well enough to be top 6 in the West up to that point based on Net Rating which is usually a good predictor if which teams will not only make the playoffs but win when they get there. I don't understand why moves like the Valanciunas and LaRavia deals couldn't have been made in December instead of jumping right to firing the coach.
I also don't understand how the front office could be that dead set on a "win now" mind-set that they're willing to fire the coach that they just gave a 3 year extension to over a 6 or 7 game losing streak in December and yet they didn't make it a priority to get Fox's finger fixed on his shooting hand?! That is truly baffling to me. He's your primary ballhandler and face of the franchise and you want him to play an entire season with a jacked up finger? The lack of leadership and accountability up and down this organization has never been more apparent.
I also don't understand how the front office could be that dead set on a "win now" mind-set that they're willing to fire the coach that they just gave a 3 year extension to over a 6 or 7 game losing streak in December and yet they didn't make it a priority to get Fox's finger fixed on his shooting hand?! That is truly baffling to me. He's your primary ballhandler and face of the franchise and you want him to play an entire season with a jacked up finger? The lack of leadership and accountability up and down this organization has never been more apparent.
He said he wasn't going to play for another coach in Sacramento. And the franchise he picked is the one with the longest tenured head coach in the league so the idea that coaching was a priority for him checks out to me. Granted Pop's future is up in the air right now but he's about as close to a Mike Brown style coach as you're likely to find, because Mike Brown was his protege.