Dallas gets Kyrie!
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I find this argument a little odd considering the Mavs rode a three point guard attack into the Western Conference Finals last season. Granted Kyrie Irving is a whole other type of personality compared to Dinwiddie and Brunson but he's played with Lebron, he's played with KD, and he shared the ball (some of the time 
) with both Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum in Boston. Theoretically they'll both attract enough attention to get the other guy easier shots. Defense is a concern for that team but not any more than it already was. It will be interesting to see if this ends up being a short-term investment for the Mavs or if this partnership has legs.
) with both Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum in Boston. Theoretically they'll both attract enough attention to get the other guy easier shots. Defense is a concern for that team but not any more than it already was. It will be interesting to see if this ends up being a short-term investment for the Mavs or if this partnership has legs.
I am dumbfounded by this move. Dallas feels like they are blindly throwing darts at the wall to not wind up having Luka demand a trade. Luka is obviously an immense talent but he really does feel like a lone wolf thus far in the NBA and I'm not sure how you build around him without any real draft or trade capital.
Well, this is kind of the way you do it. Find a desperate team that's willing to give you damaged goods if those damaged goods are only damaged between the ears, haha. The Mavs just got a MVP level scorer plain and simple to add to the one they had. They just built a legit two superstar combo and now if it works the West just got even tougher.
The problem I see is they tried that with KP. Then they paid a price to get rid of KP. They were bleeding talent with a guy like Brunson just walking. Now they are sending out more players than they receive and picks to get 1 player who is for certain a talent upgrade, but is also one of the most enigmatic headcases the league has ever seen. One has to assume he was angling to get to LA and Dallas is a surprise. We'll see how it plays out, but if it doesn't work then Dallas is done.
KP is a good player, but I think it's clear that he's kind of one of those low impact PF's in a C's body that can't be your number 2 option. Maybe he can with the right squad who knows. The pick is probably a mistake especially if Luka ends up leaving at some point but this is a move to make sure he doesn't leave. Worst case this move gives the Mavs some financial flexibility too. Irving is what he is and for teams like Sacramento, Irving in a contract year on a direct competitor better be something Monte keeps a close eye on.
Yeah but it's still not NBA Jam nor a threes tournament here, and Dallas just lost 5 on 5 on court talent that and now has another hole to fill. It feels like they are repeating the Lakers mistakes, although I guess their draft situation may not be completely as dire and if Kyrie walks they may have some cap space.
With Kleber unmovable because he was newly extended and their 2023, 2024,2028,2029first rounders either gone or locked up because of trades, and their second round picks gone in 2023, 2024 (ours), 2026, 2027, 2028 (also ours), and 2029, the Mavs only valuable pieces for a potential trade are Christian Wood’s expiring (not sure they’re going to want to move Wood though), Dwight Powell’s expiring, Josh Green, their 2025-2027 first round picks (of which the can only trade up to two), their 2025 second round pick, and an appearance on Shark Tank. Also they have like no cap room to absorb any extra salary because Bertans and THJ have terrible contracts.
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A lot of these recruiting things happen when players play together on Team USA or hell even old college buddies. Luka doesn't really have experience or access like that at least as far as top 10 level talent is concerned. Oddly, he was said to be extremely close with DSJ who the Mavericks promptly traded midway through his first season. My guess is he'll be recruited as a final piece, not the other way around.
Yeah very interesting. If Kyrie were any sort of normal superstar, this would be a laughable haul. But because he is Kyrie, I think it's probably pretty close to a massive overpay right now until we see any sort of commitment from Kyrie that he wants to play basketball. Destroyed his last 3 franchises and I think there's a very real chance he just walks away from basketball this summer. I mean, KD was supposedly his best friend and he's been nothing but toxic their whole tenure in BKN. Why would that suddenly improve in DAL? Even if you got Kyrie to ink an extension, I'd never really fully buy in that he cares about playing basketball.
From the Nets perspective, you get off an incredibly toxic asset and acquire 2 very good starters that should fit like a glove next to KD. And it's looking like Claxton is going to be a serious find for them and on his way to being an upper echelon starter as well. If you ever figure out Ben Simmons and assuming KD remains bought in, the Nets are still as dangerous as anyone with healthy KD. Funnily enough, the Nets are now just a good version of what DAL has been trying to build around Luka all these years; spacers with excellent defenders all around KD.
From the Nets perspective, you get off an incredibly toxic asset and acquire 2 very good starters that should fit like a glove next to KD. And it's looking like Claxton is going to be a serious find for them and on his way to being an upper echelon starter as well. If you ever figure out Ben Simmons and assuming KD remains bought in, the Nets are still as dangerous as anyone with healthy KD. Funnily enough, the Nets are now just a good version of what DAL has been trying to build around Luka all these years; spacers with excellent defenders all around KD.