Edwards?
Current Kings roster and holes to fill
- Thread starter funkykingston
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Erm, yeah. Make that two camp invites.
I could see:
C: Whiteside, Holmes
PF: Bagley, Bjelly
SF: Barnes, GR III
SG: Hield, DQJ
PG: Fox, Haliburton
*If Bagley or Fox still show an inconsistent 3pt shot move Bjelly to starting PF.
Injury Reserves
C: Kaminsky
PF: Parker
SF: Woodard
SG: Ramsey
PG: Cojo
I doubt James can beat out Ramsey, so waive him and let Rose, Metu, or Edwards fight for two-way.
Still can't help but feel there is a trade in the works.
C: Whiteside, Holmes
PF: Bagley, Bjelly
SF: Barnes, GR III
SG: Hield, DQJ
PG: Fox, Haliburton
*If Bagley or Fox still show an inconsistent 3pt shot move Bjelly to starting PF.
Injury Reserves
C: Kaminsky
PF: Parker
SF: Woodard
SG: Ramsey
PG: Cojo
I doubt James can beat out Ramsey, so waive him and let Rose, Metu, or Edwards fight for two-way.
Still can't help but feel there is a trade in the works.
Barnes needs to move up to PF, DQJ is not a SG, and I would guess that Woodard will get minutes at SF.
Barnes plays min at PF, but he's our starting SF. DQJ is 2/3 but there is Glen Robinson getting mins at SF.
Dude12 are you Luke?
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DQJ is not a SG....iirc he was a 3/4 in the bubble if anything
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
If he was Luke he'd have Joseph starting at SG, Buddy at backup PG/SG, and have Barnes mostly at SF even though every metric last year indicated the team was best with him at PF. LOL.
It's going to be interesting to see what shakes out. There are combinations on this new roster that can really work in the modern NBA and others that might be really, really bad when it comes to athleticism and spacing.
How I see the lineup is not how you will see it or someone else will see it. Wings are interchangeable, bit I can see DQJ playing some 2.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
There are some decent positionless possibilities going on here. From what DaQuan showed he can pretty much guard 2-5 depending on the 5.
If it’s just personal interpretation, what I’m hoping to see, different from yours is moving many of where you slotted some guys up a position. yeah, I get the positionless thing but I would be playing Barnes at PF mostly with DQJ, Woodard, Robinson handling the 3. I’d have Bagley playing minutes at the 5 and 4. Whiteside and Holmes split the remaining minutes at 5 pending matchups. Barnes slows this team down at the 3. I want this team to play fast and shoot 3’s unless Fox is driving. I’m taking Bjeli out of the lineup except for spot matchup minutes.
what I’m looking for is 1 more deal though involving either Barnes, Bjelica and or Holmes. I assume Cojo is stuck with us.
macadocious
Starter
Hey @Capt. Factorial what are the rules on trading players recently signed to 1 year deals? What is the waiting time?
Typically, three months from the date of the signing, or December 15th, whichever is later. That date will obviously have to be changed for this season, but I don't know when the NBA will set it. It's actually possible with the abbreviated offseason that the 3 month rule will be shortened too. But I haven't actually heard about the changes to these rules, if any.
Jkbiker
Starter
13 Guar contracts Yikes!!
Fox,Cojo
Buddy,Haliburton,James
Barnes,Robinson,Jeffries
Bagley,Beli,Parker
Holmes, Whiteside
I cant imagine monte not signing his two picks Ramsey and Woodard thats 15
If they cut James, then could add Kaminsky. Metu,Edwards,Rose compete for 2nd 2way spot
Fox,Cojo
Buddy,Haliburton,James
Barnes,Robinson,Jeffries
Bagley,Beli,Parker
Holmes, Whiteside
I cant imagine monte not signing his two picks Ramsey and Woodard thats 15
If they cut James, then could add Kaminsky. Metu,Edwards,Rose compete for 2nd 2way spot
Jkbiker
Starter
Sean Cunningham @SeanCunningham
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Sacramento Kings have officially announced the signing of F/C Frank Kaminsky. He will wear No. 41
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Sacramento Kings have officially announced the signing of F/C Frank Kaminsky. He will wear No. 41
So 6 bigs with contracts? Someone's getting traded...
The 15 man roster is shaping up to be:
C Holmes/Whiteside/Kaminsky
PF Bagley/Bjelica/Parker
SF Barnes/Robinson III/Woodard
SG Hield/Jeffries/Ramsey
PG Fox/Haliburton/Joseph
The positions are a bit meaningless as Barnes & Woodard are more 3/4s and Haliburton and Ramsey are both combo guards in different ways.
But while I think Bagley's ultimate position needs to be center to maximize his value, it seems this FO sees him as a PF.
Whiteside is the backup C to protect the rim and clean the glass while Kaminsky is the backup to spread the floor.
Without a preseason trade I see James being waived and Guy/Metu/Rose/Edwards fighting for the 2 two-way contracts. I'm guessing it's the first two guys with the team trying to convince Rose & Edwards to stay in Stockton.
C Holmes/Whiteside/Kaminsky
PF Bagley/Bjelica/Parker
SF Barnes/Robinson III/Woodard
SG Hield/Jeffries/Ramsey
PG Fox/Haliburton/Joseph
The positions are a bit meaningless as Barnes & Woodard are more 3/4s and Haliburton and Ramsey are both combo guards in different ways.
But while I think Bagley's ultimate position needs to be center to maximize his value, it seems this FO sees him as a PF.
Whiteside is the backup C to protect the rim and clean the glass while Kaminsky is the backup to spread the floor.
Without a preseason trade I see James being waived and Guy/Metu/Rose/Edwards fighting for the 2 two-way contracts. I'm guessing it's the first two guys with the team trying to convince Rose & Edwards to stay in Stockton.
Jkbiker
Starter
I would think:
SG Hield,Haliburton,Jeffries
PG Fox,Cojo,Ramsey
Jeffries and Ramsey as 3rd string, Along with Frank,Woodard and Parker
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Yeah, slotting guys into the five traditional positions doesn't make as much sense anymore.
In reality I think the main guard rotation will be Fox & Hield starting with Haliburton getting the bulk of the backup minutes. Any pair of those three should work well. DQJ will get spot minutes as a defensive/energy guy and I think they'll work Ramsey in where they can. He isn't a playmaker or great ballhandler so I think he'll pretty much always play alongside Fox or Haliburton. He may also see significant time in Stockton just to get the minutes.
I think we may see a lot more late 1st/2nd round rookies in the G-League this season just because of the long layoff and the desire to get guys playing time.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Just call him Kosta Koufos, nobody will know.
It might be a bit premature to assume we're going to cut James. There's a decent chance that James would hold the "15th" roster spot and Ramsey would be on a two-way.
Also, there's the possibility of a trade coming before the season that could clear some roster space. I know James isn't necessarily McNair's guy, but with all these minimum contracts we're giving out we seem to be pinching pennies, so it's no guarantee we'd cut a guaranteed contract instead of an unguaranteed one (even Kaminsky!).
Another argument for James is that he fits what appears to be McNair's preference for wings: long, athletic, good potential on D.
I think there will be a trade before the season.
Holmes and Bjelica have some value around the league, but i don't see them being re-signed with the Kings in the off-season, especially Nemanja.
Considering the current glut of bigs and 3/4 guys it would make since to trade him if there's a decent deal out there.
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I think if the front office has any input to the coaching staff it would be that they'd rather see what they have in the young guys (and potentially showcase Buddy) rather than try to eke out a few more wins by playing the veterans.
Joseph isn't a long term piece. He's only partially guaranteed next season so he's essentially a $10M expiring contract. If he's not dealt at the deadline or next off-season the I think the Kings would definitely waive him.
The other issue is that Joseph's style of play isn't conducive to playing uptempo basketball. Things noticeably slowed down when he was in.
NewArena
All-Star
We were decimated before the pandemic hit. Injury after injury, so I’m praying for a healthier season. I’m interested to see our starters together
Section 101
All-Star
It depends on how well Haliburton does defensively. If he picks it up right away I see him getting more minutes.
Jkbiker
Starter
My Prediction:
Sorta looks like biggest camp battle will be James vs Ramsey for 15th spot
Robinson,Kaminsky I feel with both stay past guarantee dates on roster
Two ways- I am thinking if James stays on Roster, Cut Guy, Ramsey and Metu on the two ways
I think James and Ramsey both better than Guy, Metu would be our long term big prospect
Rose and Edwards - maybe stockton
Sorta looks like biggest camp battle will be James vs Ramsey for 15th spot
Robinson,Kaminsky I feel with both stay past guarantee dates on roster
Two ways- I am thinking if James stays on Roster, Cut Guy, Ramsey and Metu on the two ways
I think James and Ramsey both better than Guy, Metu would be our long term big prospect
Rose and Edwards - maybe stockton
So now it appears that the NBA will have 15 players dress this season. I don't see any word on whether that means that rosters will expand, perhaps to 17, but if so then we may not have to cut anybody.
With no moves a 17-man roster would probably look something like:
Fox/Haliburton/CoJo
Buddy/James/Ramsey
Barnes/DQJ/GRIII/Woodard
Bagley/Bjelica/Parker
Whiteside/Holmes/Kaminsky/Metu
with Guy/Rose on two-way deals and Vince Edwards getting a pat on the back for coming to training camp and helping out.
whozit
Starter
I would think it would expand. If this is because of COVID-19 dressing two more doesn't really address the issue. Having a couple more available game to game in case of positives would/could help mitigate a outbreak on a team.
