combine results-athletics

[Aenadin]

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/

heres a link of the completed combine... its the athletics part. i must say the flynn has the most hops compared to every one..

jordan hill having the same hops as blake.. and longer and bigger than him.. could this be enough to lure the grizz to pick him?

 

[GeraldWallace#3]

Boy, Rodrigue Beaubois with some sick nasty hops, wouldn't mind the Kings checking this kid out with the 31.

 

[Aenadin]

hes also got mad and unworldly long arms!

 

[Bricklayer]

Interesting that Harden may not have just been woofing about him being a better athlete..or at least leaper than advertised. Same vert as Terence Williams, and actually more than Jeff Teague.

So with Hilll and Harden doing well on those, all is set for us to somehow move up to get Rubio and Thabeet at #2 and #3 while OKC and Memphis trade down to get Hill/Harden.

 

[beb0p]

Boy, James Harden is over 6'5, a 37" vert, better lane agility than Tyreke Evans, and faster 3/4 sprint than Jonny Flynn. Yup, this undersized, slow and un-athletic sorry excuse of a player is going to struggle big time in the league.

What was I thinking getting on his bandwagon?

 

[gunks]

Interesting that Harden may not have just been woofing about him being abetter athelete..or at least leaper than advertised. Same vert as Terence Williams, and actually more than Jeff Teague.

So with Hilll and Harden doing well on those, all is set for us to somehow move up to get rubio and Thabeet at #2 and #3 while OKC and Memphis trade down to get Hill/Harden.

I think Rubio slips to 4, we wont even have to give up anything to get him! But then since he's not a top 3 pick he'll go back to Europe and we'll waste a pick we could have used on Evans or Flynn!

...Worst case scenario, but thats what us Kings fans should expect!

 

[Aenadin]

i dont think being the 4th will change rubios agenda.. his agent did say he wants him in LA or Sacramento...

 

[gunks]

Apparently for buyout reasons he needed a top 3 salary.

Maybe GP can talk him into it, entice him with Sac's numorous local endorsement deal potential

 

[GeraldWallace#3]

i dont think being the 4th will change rubios agenda.. his agent did say he wants him in LA or Sacramento...

The only thing wrong with that is that with the number 4 pick salary he won't have enough money to pay his buyout.

And wow, James Harden is very impresive.

 

[gunks]

Hardin will probably be studly for OKC.

I dunno...If Rubio lives up to the hype then great! If not, we're in the John Wall to the bottom of the league again in 2010.

I think the Rubes is going to be there at 4 for us.

 

[Aenadin]

the cash issue .. i think levien is there for a reason...

 

[GeraldWallace#3]

Hardin will probably be studly for OKC.

I dunno...If Rubio lives up to the hype then great! If not, we're in the John Wall to the bottom of the league again in 2010.

I think the Rubes is going to be there at 4 for us.

Honestly I may be the only one on this site who thinks this, but I really hope that Rubio dosen't fall. The draft would be so much more exciting. Now if he does fall I would't mind picking him, but I just feel he is going to be a big bust.

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

PGs who look good
Jumping--Flynn, Beaubois
Strength--Douglas, Lawson, Teague
Quickness/changing directions--Collison, Beaubois, Douglas

SGs who look good
Jumping--Ellington, Taylor, Meeks, T. Williams, Harden
Strength--James Harden, Jermaine Taylor, Jodie Meeks, Marcus Thornton
Quickness/changing directions--Jack McClinton, Jerel McNeal, Jodie Meeks

SFs who look good
Jumping--Budinger, DeRozan, D. James
Strength--J. Johnson, Summers, D. Green
Quickness/changing directions--Summers, T. Smith, Budinger

PFs who look good
Jumping--Griffin, D. Brown, Cunningham, J Hill
Strength--Harangody, Griffin, D. Brown
Quickness/changing directions--Griffin, D. Brown, Hansbrough?

Cs who look good
Jumping--Pendergraph
Strength--N/A
Quickness/changing directions--N/A

Ones who really impressed were Blake Griffin, Derrick Brown, and Jodie Meeks. Other good ones include Chase Budinger, DaJuan Summers, Jermaine Taylor, James Harden, Rodrigue Beaubois, and Toney Douglas.

 

[hrdboild]

Honestly I may be the only one on this site who thinks this, but I really hope that Rubio dosen't fall. The draft would be so much more exciting. Now if he does fall I would't mind picking him, but I just feel he is going to be a big bust.

You're not the only one. I don't think he's going to be a bust exactly, but I don't think he's the second best player in this draft either and it seems like we'd take him no matter what if he's there at #4 just because of the position need.

 

[BMiller52]

Honestly I may be the only one on this site who thinks this, but I really hope that Rubio dosen't fall. The draft would be so much more exciting. Now if he does fall I would't mind picking him, but I just feel he is going to be a big bust.

I have to say I kind of agree.

 

[bajaden]

Boy, James Harden is over 6'5, a 37" vert, better lane agility than Tyreke Evans, and faster 3/4 sprint than Jonny Flynn. Yup, this undersized, slow and un-athletic sorry excuse of a player is going to struggle big time in the league.

What was I thinking getting on his bandwagon?

I don't want to tell you I told you so, but I told you so. Not you in particular, but all those that were poo pooing his athleticism.

 

[bajaden]

I think Rubio slips to 4, we wont even have to give up anything to get him! But then since he's not a top 3 pick he'll go back to Europe and we'll waste a pick we could have used on Evans or Flynn!

...Worst case scenario, but thats what us Kings fans should expect!

Petrie has already stated that he won't draft anyone that won't be able to play this year. I suspect a phone conservation will happen before we pick him.

 

[Bricklayer]

I don't want to tell you I told you so, but I told you so. Not you in particular, but all those that were poo pooing his athleticism.

Its actually kind of interesting, because he has always looked like a slug out on the court. Of course his agility didn't measure great, but still, no way you would have expected him to test out on the high end in basically anything. In game it looks like he can barely dunk, he doesn't have great lateral quickness etc. Makes you wonder a bit if it was/is a playing style thing, or if maybe that lumpy thing that often looked like it was under his jersey was holding him back.

 

[bajaden]

The only thing wrong with that is that with the number 4 pick salary he won't have enough money to pay his buyout.

And wow, James Harden is very impresive.

The difference between number 3 and 4 salary wise isn't worth talking about. And neither is large enough to pay for the buy out. They will probably negotiate some sort of payment plan, and the money will probably come from endorsements. Yeah, I know Sacramento isn't the endorsement capitol of the USA, but the Maloofs have a lot of contacts on a national level.

 

[beb0p]

I don't want to tell you I told you so, but I told you so. Not you in particular, but all those that were poo pooing his athleticism.

Touche. That wagon was not very crowded back then and was almost empty for a while. I think you, I and a couple of other posters were the only ones who didn't call him the second coming of Ricky Minard, or something along that line.

 

[bajaden]

It would be something if Hill ended up being a better player than Griffin. I don't think that will happen, but it does put Hill's upside into prospective when he's only played 5 years of organized basketball.

 

[fnordius]

PGs who look good
Jumping--Flynn, Beaubois
Strength--Douglas, Lawson, Teague
Quickness/changing directions--Collison, Beaubois, Douglas

*sigh*

The bad news: When you eliminate the US tweeners, Euro tweeners who say they will withdraw if not picked earlier than they deserve, and the guys who will be unavailable at our draft positions, you're left with Collison and Flynn.

I'm liking Flynn more and more.

 

[beb0p]

Its actually kind of interesting, because he has always looked like a slug out on the court. Of course his agility didn't measure great, but still, no way you would have expected him to test out on the high end in basically anything. In game it looks like he can barely dunk, he doesn't have great lateral quickness etc. Makes you wonder a bit if it was/is a playing style thing, or if maybe that lumpy thing that often looked like it was under his jersey was holding him back.

He has always look athletic, but his game is not based on athleticism. I think that's where fans got thrown off. He looks a legit 6'5 and pretty athletic to me, that's why I was always a bit puzzled by people who said otherwise. If you watch him closely, he has a second and third gear he can turn on anytime but only in spots.

I was actually hoping he'd test out a bit worse than expected, if only because then we'll have a shot at him. But that prospect is looking grimmer now. I know GP is going to draft a PG, but a part of me still hope that he does the right thing and draft the BPA.

 

[allrightythen]

I was concerned about Harden for those very reasons (size and athleticism), clearly he has proven those naysayers (me included) wrong. Based on his numbers and physical attributes, I'd say he is the 2nd best talent in the draft. If we didn't have Kevin Martin I'd be all for drafting him, and I almost wonder if you have to draft him if he's there at 4. Although I doubt he will be now.

 

[Gary]

The difference between number 3 and 4 salary wise isn't worth talking about. And neither is large enough to pay for the buy out. They will probably negotiate some sort of payment plan, and the money will probably come from endorsements. Yeah, I know Sacramento isn't the endorsement capitol of the USA, but the Maloofs have a lot of contacts on a national level.

Was about to say that too.. With the Maloofs behind him I am sure he will be able to get in on some of those endorsement deals. More so than in Memphis, and OKC by far. I am not comparing Rubio to Webber, but if Rubio was to become the leader of this team he could have Webber like endorsements.

Hell.. Even Jason Williams had a good thing in Sacramento. I saw him in a lot of national ads (including the Moss one) and after he left he kind of dissappeared from the national seen.

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

I just like Beaubois--physically, for a point guard, he's on the elite level for the NBA. Good quickness, sick wingspan, sick vert. Like Barbosa or Rondo. The problem is whether he has the skillset and decision making to catch up with those tools. I don't think he's quite worth the 31, and he's not really a point guard, but...

As for Flynn, I agree with fnordius; these numbers will only help him. He has a pretty good wingspan, a 40' inch vert and good general quickness--physically he's almost in Chris Paul territory. I think he'll move up the lottery because of that, which is unfortunate because I still believe his skill level justifies him more as a pick in the #8-14 range.

 

[PurpleHaze]

As far as Ricky Rubio endorsements he's already getting lots and has tons across Europe. Nike recently signed him up and if you Google - Nike Ricky Rubio - you'll see they already have lots of video presentations on him, his family, coaches, players, etc. - and are obviously poised to launch him in a big TV marketing campaign once they deem timing is right.

 

[BMiller52]

It would be something if Hill ended up being a better player than Griffin. I don't think that will happen, but it does put Hill's upside into prospective when he's only played 5 years of organized basketball.

It wouldn't surprise me. I've been a fan of Jordan since his frosh year at zona and I've never been a huge fan of Griffin anyway, he's not much of a defensive player.

 

[Henkel]

I have always been a Harden supporter and thought people underrated his athleticism but at the same time i didn't think he was this athletic. I never thought for a second that he was a better athlete then Evans. Shows what i know.

 

[bajaden]

Its actually kind of interesting, because he has always looked like a slug out on the court. Of course his agility didn't measure great, but still, no way you would have expected him to test out on the high end in basically anything. In game it looks like he can barely dunk, he doesn't have great lateral quickness etc. Makes you wonder a bit if it was/is a playing style thing, or if maybe that lumpy thing that often looked like it was under his jersey was holding him back.

Well I've watched him for two years and he's a deceiving athlete. I've seen him lay the ball up 90% of the time. But then I've seen him explode to the basket and slam it down. It happens so infrequently that you finally forget about it until it happens again. I just think he's one of those guys that does only what is necessary to get the job done.

If you watched him play defense on a regular basis, then you know he's a pretty good defender. He seldom lets his man get by him, and to be honest, he was seldom tested. He was the man at Arizona St. He played a lot of minutes, and frankly looked somewhat burned out in the tourney, which surprised me. But I believe that whoever drafts him will get a good basketball player. I think he will be a better NBA player than a college player.