Cleveland

[dude12]

If you google Sacramento trade rumors, Cleveland always comes up for the last 4 months or so and from different "sources". Assuming that there may be some talk between the teams and Cleveland's desire to compete now, there could be a deal here. The last chatter had Varejao and IT as the main parts but also mentioned Jarret Jack who does have a history with Malone. Also mentioned the Kings desire to acquire another 1st round pick.....

Varejao and Jack are about $16M combined and gets into MT, Salmons, Hayes company combined with IT in some sort of combination. Seems like if they trade just one of those guys, Varejao or Jack and a 1st for IT and one of those guys we want to move, a deal can get done.

I also like what I read about the rookie SF Sergey Karasev who could slot in nicely at SF.

Carmichael Dave tweeted last night that he guarantees that within 30 days the roster will change. Minutes got reduced for some guys. Signs are pointing to a deal.

 

[Cold]

Wouldn't mind Jarrett Jack. He's better than GV and IT.

Jack seems like he's bored in Cleveland.

 

[randymoss1881]

I would love varejao but I don't think we have anything to get him but he is perfect next to DMC. His jump shot is greatly improved and his help defense and 1on1 defense is elite

 

[twslam07]

I would love varejao but I don't think we have anything to get him but he is perfect next to DMC. His jump shot is greatly improved and his help defense and 1on1 defense is elite

He doesn't block shots nor is he young enough to age with our team. On top of that he makes 9-10 mil a year which is way too much for a roleplaying big next to Cousins. I would definitely not go as far as saying he is "perfect next to DMC."

 

[randymoss1881]

He doesn't block shots nor is he young enough to age with our team. On top of that he makes 9-10 mil a year which is way too much for a roleplaying big next to Cousins. I would definitely not go as far as saying he is "perfect next to DMC."

Age would be the only problem I think. He doesn't block shots but he is great at taking charges, positioning, and rebounding.

Jack is struggling there so I'd try IT for him and have them give us our pick back no restrictions

 

[dude12]

He doesn't block shots nor is he young enough to age with our team. On top of that he makes 9-10 mil a year which is way too much for a roleplaying big next to Cousins. I would definitely not go as far as saying he is "perfect next to DMC."

The age and injury factor are not ideal but I think it would be a package deal involving their 1st rounder or the rookie SF plus a veteran contract.....such a Varejao r Jack. I think if we get one of those vets plus young assets we may see JT moved or IT but we get to move MT or Hayes.

I'm guessing no moves are made unless one of these 2 contracts are attached.

 

[cuad]

SMH @ you people saying you'd trade IT for Jarret Jack.

 

[Dreadnought]

SMH @ you people saying you'd trade IT for Jarret Jack.

Contracts aside, Jack is a far superior player. The only thing stopping IT from being a better player is his height. But alas, you play the cards you're dealt.

 

[VF21]

...Carmichael Dave tweeted last night that he guarantees that within 30 days the roster will change. Minutes got reduced for some guys. Signs are pointing to a deal.

I don't think Dave is onto any secret information. I think he's made an educated prediction, something pretty much anyone around here could probably have made.

Having said that, I have to agree the planets seem to be coming into alignment for SOMETHING to happen.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Wouldn't mind Jarrett Jack. He's better than GV and IT.

Jack seems like he's bored in Cleveland.

Also would make sense, since he was with the Warriors with Malone. Bring in another familiar veteran with Landry, along with an experienced vet who is on the same page with Malone, in Moute. Another step closer to changing the "culture", possibly

 

[bajaden]

Wouldn't mind Jarrett Jack. He's better than GV and IT.

Jack seems like he's bored in Cleveland.

Jack is a hell of a scorer, but he's not a true PG by any stretch of the imagination. If we were to use him the same way the Warriors did, then he's a good fit. Not sure what the point of trading IT for Jack would be though.

 

[Glenn]

Jack is a hell of a scorer, but he's not a true PG by any stretch of the imagination. If we were to use him the same way the Warriors did, then he's a good fit. Not sure what the point of trading IT for Jack would be though.

He can carry more pizzas?????

 

[bajaden]

He can carry more pizzas?????

I think he's into Taco's.

 

[Tetsujin]

The age and injury factor are not ideal but I think it would be a package deal involving their 1st rounder or the rookie SF plus a veteran contract.....such a Varejao r Jack. I think if we get one of those vets plus young assets we may see JT moved or IT but we get to move MT or Hayes.

I'm guessing no moves are made unless one of these 2 contracts are attached.

Getting Cleveland's pick would be optimal since they look like they'll be picking high in the lottery yet again. (It's early in the season but the wheels on their bus seem to have already sprung leaks)

 

[Kingsfan23]

As I believe Brick has pointed out, Jack has taken a swipe at the city of Sacramento before. I wouldn't trade IT for him anyways. IT still undervalued here even now. He was undervalued I felt in the offseason when he was included in many trades, but even now folks may not understand what the pizza man means on the floor, in the locker room and in the community

 

[The_Jamal]

Jack isn't sniffing IT's shorts this season in production. It's not even in the same galaxy of close. And the fact he makes about 6x as much.... Pass.

I wouldn't trade for Varejao either, unless it was like Chuck or Salmons. Getting him is a move that you would do to put your team over the top as a contender or more competitive in the playoffs. We're at least 2 years away from playoff contention. By which time, Varejao would be an extremely injury-prone 33 years old. Thornton may not have a lot of value, but perhaps he brings you a player you can actually develop or a 1st round pick from a contending team.

 

[Cold]

I'm happy IT is playing well but don't kid ourselves. Money aside, every GM in the NBA would take Jack over IT as their backup PG / 6th man. If you have to start one of those 2, you start Jack. Jack is the better scorer, better shooter, better playmaker, better floor general, locker room leader, the more dependable big shot taker, and a slightly more capable defender due to length.

Sample size.

 

[Cold]

Varajao is extremely injury prone.

 

[Chupacabra]

I'm happy IT is playing well but don't kid ourselves. Money aside, every GM in the NBA would take Jack over IT as their backup PG / 6th man. If you have to start one of those 2, you start Jack. Jack is the better scorer, better shooter, better playmaker, better floor general, locker room leader, the more dependable big shot taker, and a slightly more capable defender due to length.

Sample size.

I'm going to have to say that other than the part about jack being a more capable defender this statement is erroneous. Thomas is playing well because his role has been defined. Like Isaiah, Jack is primarily a scorer. Neither of them are "floor generals". How do you know that Jack is a better locker room guy? Have you been in both locker rooms and compared each players locker room attributes?

 

[DesertFox]

I'm happy IT is playing well but don't kid ourselves. Money aside, every GM in the NBA would take Jack over IT as their backup PG / 6th man. If you have to start one of those 2, you start Jack. Jack is the better scorer, better shooter, better playmaker, better floor general, locker room leader, the more dependable big shot taker, and a slightly more capable defender due to length.

Sample size.

Jarret Jack? Outside of size, I'd like to see something back up those claims.

I questioned IT as a shooter coming into the NBA, but 2 seasons and change later, it's safe to say he's established himself from the 3 and the line.
Jack is played a lot at the 2 for a reason, so to say he is a better playmaker/floor general is a stretch too.
And IT's hero mode mentality bugs me as much as the next guy, but he has made clutch plays, as much as one can on a bad team.

Throw in age, and I can't see how any, let alone every, GM takes Jack over IT.

 

[KingMilz]

I'm happy IT is playing well but don't kid ourselves. Money aside, every GM in the NBA would take Jack over IT as their backup PG / 6th man. If you have to start one of those 2, you start Jack. Jack is the better scorer, better shooter, better playmaker, better floor general, locker room leader, the more dependable big shot taker, and a slightly more capable defender due to length.

Sample size.

Isaiah Thomas is head and shoulders above every other 6th man this year so far, imo the Kings should try extend him now as the long term back up spark plug rather than wait till the end of the year where his value will sky rocket. Jack has not helped the Cavs at all that team is full of talent playing in the East and has the same/worse record than us and there's been lots of reports of lockeroom fighting coming out there.

 

[dude12]

Jarret Jack was real good with GS as was Landry. Perhaps Malone knows how to use him. Regardless, I think if there is a deal it would be some type of package deal with us shipping vets in exchange for youth.....but salaries have to match at some point

 

[Dime Dropper]

On Jack, I don't want him anywhere near here. One of the few players I strongly dislike. Thinks he's better than he is, bland, boring. Decent player but does nothing for us. Not good enough to start on a good team and we already have a good back-up.