Chris Kamen

[CaminoChaos]

Would you do it?

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7319695/the-second-day-nba-christmas

Kaman:
Sitting there for one year, $12.2 million if the Clippers pay Jordan. Here's what I would do if I ran the Clippers …

Step 1: Pay Jordan. You can't mess around with Blake. And by the way, the Clips are only at $44.9 million right now. It's not like they don't have the money.

Step 2: Make the following phone call.

"Hey, Maloof brothers … you need to spend $17.5 million just to hit the league's salary floor ($49.3 million). You give us Jason Thompson (one year, $3 million remaining), we'll give you Kaman and the chance to have a secretly beastly low-post combo of the K-Man and Boogie (DeMarcus Cousins). That brings you within $8.3 million of the salary floor. Any interest? Any? (Listening.) What? You're asking me how much money I have in my wallet right now? Um, I have about $400 bucks. You want me to throw that in the trade? (Listening.) Fine, I can go to an ATM and get another $500. Would $900 do it? You want 20s or 100s … ?"

 

[Bricklayer]

Absolutely not.

We do NOT need any more offensively inclined bigs, and you can't pair Cousins with another lumbering center because neither one can guard the perimeter. People, including the site above, are missing the whole reason Faly works, Chandler might work, and very few others do -- its the mobility. Mobile and athletic centers can play next to Cousins because they can chase the PFs around. Lumbering non-defensive studs who like to shoot cannot.

 

[Hoovtrain]

Absolutely not.

We do NOT need any more offensively inclined bigs, and you can't pair Cousins with another lumbering center because neither one can guard the perimeter. People, including the site above, are missing the whole reason Faly works, Chandler might work, and very few others do -- its the mobility. Mobile and athletic centers can play next to Cousins because they can chase the PFs around. Lumbering non-defensive studs who like to shoot cannot.

Well it doesn't appear they will be getting any mobile, shot blocking bigs this year. So why not take his big expiring (along with his 8.3 rebounds and 1.4 blocks a game career stats) and become players in a much better FA class next year?

 

[swisshh]

Well it doesn't appear they will be getting any mobile, shot blocking bigs this year. So why not take his big expiring (along with his 8.3 rebounds and 1.4 blocks a game career stats) and become players in a much better FA class next year?

That's the only angle I see to this trade, but if they aren't able to be FA players this year then how would they get any next year?

 

[Bricklayer]

Well it doesn't appear they will be getting any mobile, shot blocking bigs this year. So why not take his big expiring (along with his 8.3 rebounds and 1.4 blocks a game career stats) and become players in a much better FA class next year?

Because not only does he not fit, but he actively interferes.

We do NOT need any more scorers. And we don't need anymore non-fitting lumberers taking shots and time from our talented young frontcourt kids. If we can get a shotblocking mobile guy to balance the frontcourt and provide protection without interfering, then great. Otherwise you are just adding an expensive old vet who takes minutes and shots from Cousins and Hickson and Thompson, and now Hayes I suppose. Who is in the way shotwise and physically of Reke and Thornton. We don't need Kaman. We don't need Jefferson. Its not just about acquiring random talent. We have a team structure and the talent has to fit.

 

[sdballer]

Because not only does he not fit, but he actively interferes.

We do NOT need any more scorers. And we don't need anymore non-fitting lumberers taking shots and time from our talented young frontcourt kids. If we can get a shotblocking mobile guy to balance the frontcourt and provide protection without interfering, then great. Otherwise you are just adding an expensive old vet who takes minutes and shots from Cousins and Hickson and Thomposn, an now Hayes I suppose. Who is in the wat shotwise and physically of Reke and Thornton. We don't need Kaman. We don''t need Jefferson. Its not just aobut acquiring random talent. We have a team structure and the talent has to fit.

I find myself agreeing with you too much lately. Surely a sign of the impending end times.

 

[Hoovtrain]

Because not only does he not fit, but he actively interferes.

We do NOT need any more scorers. And we don't need anymore non-fitting lumberers taking shots and time from our talented young frontcourt kids. If we can get a shotblocking mobile guy to balance the frontcourt and provide protection without interfering, then great. Otherwise you are just adding an expensive old vet who takes minutes and shots from Cousins and Hickson and Thomposn, and now Hayes I suppose. Who is in the wyt shotwise and physically of Reke and Thornton. We don't need Kaman. We don't need Jefferson. Its not just aobut acquiring random talent. We have a team structure and the talent has to fit.

I never said we needed him nor do I think they should just add random talent. I said take him and his huge expiring deal. He could also be a good trade chip come deadline time.

 

[Bricklayer]

I find myself agreeing with you too much lately. Surely a sign of the impending end times.

Well, everyone should always agree with me, since I am always right.

 

[cuad]

I was thinking about that Bill Simmons post the other day. It would have been nice to trade Hickson for Kaman, and then to resign Dalembert, but there's no way the Clippers do that. The Chuck Hayes signing still leaves this possibility open. Chuck is the mobile defender that we would have wanted out of Hickson (PF), so Hickson now has no role, thus is expendable. In fact, Chuck Hayes makes this even more likely.

 

[Glenn]

Well, everyone should always agree with me, since I am always right.

I learned that years ago. If I stray from the path you have forged, give me a whack!

 

[Glenn]

I was thinking about that Bill Simmons post the other day. It would have been nice to trade Hickson for Kaman, and then to resign Dalembert, but there's no way the Clippers do that. The Chuck Hayes signing still leaves this possibility open. Chuck is the mobile defender that we would have wanted out of Hickson (PF), so Hickson now has no role, thus is expendable. In fact, Chuck Hayes makes this even more likely.

Hayes is not signed. And, yes, if it happens, it leaves JJ without nuch of a role. Or JT. In any case if we sign Hayes, we will have a log jam at the PF/C position and the idiocy of last year's coaching choices will begin afresh.

 

[cuad]

Hayes is not signed. And, yes, if it happens, it leaves JJ without nuch of a role. Or JT. In any case if we sign Hayes, we will have a log jam at the PF/C position and the idiocy of last year's coaching choices will begin afresh.

Signing Hayes still leaves a C spot open for Jason Thompson, but yeah, there are lots of lineups Westphal might want to try.