Chipper Hawes

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so you see hawes having that locker room leadership? i havent seen much kings games... but what does he do?

i agree with you on the fact that he is opinionated.

I don't think he's stepped up to be the leadership guy yet, and I don't know if he ever will. But he's not quiet and that was the point I was trying to make.

In fact in his case its often been exactly the opposite, as he has come across as that loudmouth know it all guy that is irritating and nobody listens to.

I have to disagree with this part, which seems to me to be based more on Hawes' outspoken political beliefs than anything else. I haven't seen him referred to as the "loudmouth know-it-all"... he's got passion for the game and intensity and wants to urge his teammates on. That's not irritating IMHO...