chances of signing Dalembert?

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I was just wanting to get some opinions from you guys on our chances of getting Sam D. back next season. I feel like if we don't get him back our frontcourt takes 1 step back. Whiteside may be good one day but, he will not fill the shoes of Dalambert this season. I am not forgeting that JT and cousins will have improvements but that 3rd big is important. I wish JT was the 3rd big.
 
I was just wanting to get some opinions from you guys on our chances of getting Sam D. back next season. I feel like if we don't get him back our frontcourt takes 1 step back. Whiteside may be good one day but, he will not fill the shoes of Dalambert this season. I am not forgeting that JT and cousins will have improvements but that 3rd big is important. I wish JT was the 3rd big.

I think a lot of it depends on the new CBA, which will dictate how much other teams can spend. Dalemnert will likely get attention from veteran teams, like Miami, looking for a defensive center.
 
miami scares me the most. Not only do they want him. Not only do they give him great chance for championship but its the closest city to his home Haiti. All signs are against us. With him making close to $50 mil already in his NBA career not sure money is what he is after at this point.
 
miami scares me the most. Not only do they want him. Not only do they give him great chance for championship but its the closest city to his home Haiti. All signs are against us. With him making close to $50 mil already in his NBA career not sure money is what he is after at this point.

I think I'll have to completely disagree w/ you here. Another 50 mil can go a long way.
 
thats not a complete disagreement. In fact that is the lowest point i was trying to make. unless you disagree with miami wanting him. which is fact. And the other fact is he mentioned wanting chance to win championship. So basically your disagreeing with me saying I am NOT SURE money is what he is after. By me saying not sure pretty much takes me out of complete agreement with that statement as well. But hey thanks for the insight.
 
I almost got the vibe he was all about team loyalty when we first traded for him. Didn't he say something like he was glad to be on a team that wanted him? I hope he decides to stay with us, because he is vital to us moving forward.
 
I almost got the vibe he was all about team loyalty when we first traded for him. Didn't he say something like he was glad to be on a team that wanted him? I hope he decides to stay with us, because he is vital to us moving forward.

Yes, and we were the first team that encouraged him to shoot when open. Name a basketball player that doesn't want to score. In fact he said in the off season he would work on his mid range jump shot. Doesn't sound like a guy planning on going to a team that wouldn't want him to shoot. The hole on Miami is a defensive presence and they could offer him the MLE (if it still exists) and that's all.
 
We have to be favs to sign him pure and simple. However we are kings fans and therefore if he walked it wouldnt be a massive suprise to many
 
thats not a complete disagreement. In fact that is the lowest point i was trying to make. unless you disagree with miami wanting him. which is fact. And the other fact is he mentioned wanting chance to win championship. So basically your disagreeing with me saying I am NOT SURE money is what he is after. By me saying not sure pretty much takes me out of complete agreement with that statement as well. But hey thanks for the insight.

He's not going to Miami,
 
Miami can barely offer anything as it stands. Owners haven't budged on a hard cap. Not sure if it will happen, but I highly doubt Miami will come out of a new CBA being better off, and able to offer more. Daly isn't to the point in his career where he needs to take the vet mimimum for a shot at a ring.

With guaranteed contracts likely to be shorter under a new CBA, Daly is looking at a max of 4 years on a new contract. So assuming he signs a 4 year contact, that contract will expire within a month of his 34 birthday. Even at that point one could argue he's worth more than the vet minimum if still healthy.

I expect him to strongly consider resigning, given his previous comments about wanting to come here, being a part of the offense, playing next to a hopefuly maturing Cousins, and the money. It might be tough to walk away from a lot of money from a team on the upswing, not regressing.
 
It's too bad that Miami doesn't have anyone worth much outside of the big 3 or a sign and trade might be a good thing for both teams. I would say that Dalembert for Miller would be a good trade but Miller doesn't seem to be coming back from injury very well.
 
It's too bad that Miami doesn't have anyone worth much outside of the big 3 or a sign and trade might be a good thing for both teams. I would say that Dalembert for Miller would be a good trade but Miller doesn't seem to be coming back from injury very well.

Good thing for both teams? There is nothing Miami has that is a good trade" for us for Dalembert. You seem really eager to help Miami at our expense, and I am confused as to why.
 
Good thing for both teams? There is nothing Miami has that is a good trade" for us for Dalembert. You seem really eager to help Miami at our expense, and I am confused as to why.

Maybe you aren't clear on what i said. I said it's too bad they don't have anyone meaning that if they did it'd be good for both teams. I was talking hypothetically. If they had an Andre Iguodala type of player or something it would make sense for both teams to trade. Surely you're not implying that one of their big 3 wouldn't be a good trade for us, not that they'd trade one of them.
 
You mean Big 2, plus a tag-along? Bosh isn't as good as you seem to think he is, and we've already discussed how he wouldn't fit next to Cousins due to their duplicitous style of play.
 
You mean Big 2, plus a tag-along? Bosh isn't as good as you seem to think he is, and we've already discussed how he wouldn't fit next to Cousins due to their duplicitous style of play.

Umm big 1 plus two tag alongs?
 
You mean Big 2, plus a tag-along? Bosh isn't as good as you seem to think he is, and we've already discussed how he wouldn't fit next to Cousins due to their duplicitous style of play.

All I think he is, is a really good player and surely better than Dalembert. I don't buy the notion that an offensive minded PF and an offensive minded C can't work together. Seems to have worked pretty nicely in Memphis.
 
Maybe you aren't clear on what i said. I said it's too bad they don't have anyone meaning that if they did it'd be good for both teams. I was talking hypothetically. If they had an Andre Iguodala type of player or something it would make sense for both teams to trade. Surely you're not implying that one of their big 3 wouldn't be a good trade for us, not that they'd trade one of them.

Maybe you aren't clear on the idea that Dally is an important piece for us. Why trade that away in a S&T??? Let's do the smart thing and, you know, try to keep him here.
 
All I think he is, is a really good player and surely better than Dalembert. I don't buy the notion that an offensive minded PF and an offensive minded C can't work together. Seems to have worked pretty nicely in Memphis.

Didn't Dallas win the championship?
 
Didn't Dallas win the championship?

So anything short of a championship is failure? Heck, at the moment, I just want a good team, then we'll worry about championship. And Dallas never played Memphis. A lot of people think Memphis would have given Dallas more trouble than OKC did.
 
Maybe you aren't clear on the idea that Dally is an important piece for us. Why trade that away in a S&T??? Let's do the smart thing and, you know, try to keep him here.

I get that Dalembert is important. I just think Bosh would end up being more important. It's kind of a silly argument though because there's no way Miami would ever trade Bosh for Dalembert anyways.
 
I get that Dalembert is important. I just think Bosh would end up being more important. It's kind of a silly argument though because there's no way Miami would ever trade Bosh for Dalembert anyways.

I've always thought that Bosh was overrated, and have said so, even when he was the suspossed next coming in Toronto. Not to say he's a bad player by any means. I just never thought he was in the same status as the Jordans of the world. Personally, I think Dalembert has more value in what he brings than Bosh would. All a matter of need and fit.

If we want to go in that direction, we should go after David West, if he's healthy. His career stats are very similar to Bosh's, and he know's how to play with another star player. I think I'll stick with Dalembert for the time being though.
 
I've always thought that Bosh was overrated, and have said so, even when he was the suspossed next coming in Toronto. Not to say he's a bad player by any means. I just never thought he was in the same status as the Jordans of the world. Personally, I think Dalembert has more value in what he brings than Bosh would. All a matter of need and fit.

If we want to go in that direction, we should go after David West, if he's healthy. His career stats are very similar to Bosh's, and he know's how to play with another star player. I think I'll stick with Dalembert for the time being though.

Actually, I think he's a little overrated too. For awhile people were saying he was top 15 and I never thought he was quite that good. I'd say he's still a top 30 player though and arguably a top five PF. I get that Dalembert may fill more of a need I'm just generally a go with the better player person unless there's some big red flags that say a particular player won't work and I don't see any of those with Bosh. He seems like a good team player, doesn't really have any glaring weaknesses in his game that i can see, isn't injury prone, and has plenty of experience but is still young enough that he's got quite a few years left in his prime. The only potential problem I can see is that he surely wouldn't be too happy about coming here but you're going to have to deal with that with any high caliber player that gets traded to the Kings. You just hope that they end up seeing the light the way Webber did.
 
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Actually, I think he's a little overrated too. For awhile people were saying he was top 15 and I never thought he was quite that good. I'd say he's still a top 30 player though and arguably a top five PF. I get that Dalembert may fill more of a need I'm just generally a go with the better player person unless there's some big red flags that say a particular player won't work and I don't see any of those with Bosh. He seems like a good team player, doesn't really have any glaring weaknesses in his game that i can see, isn't injury prone, and has plenty of experience but is still young enough that he's got quite a few years left in his prime. The only potential problem I can see is that he surely wouldn't be too happy about coming here but you're going to have to deal with that with any high caliber player that gets traded to the Kings. You just hope that they end up seeing the light the way Webber did.

He has one glaring weakness, and one borderline glaring weakness. His glaring weakness is his complete lack of commitment to the defensive end, which is why I wouldn't pair him with Cousins, and also why I wouldn't compare any frontline with him starting to Randolph/Gasol, who are both much better defenders and much more physical in the paint. His borderline glaring weakness is his rebounding. Subpar this entire year, and the only reason I think the numbers were higher in Tor is because he played next to the worst rebounding center in the league, in Bargnani.
 
Actually, I think he's a little overrated too. For awhile people were saying he was top 15 and I never thought he was quite that good. I'd say he's still a top 30 player though and arguably a top five PF. I get that Dalembert may fill more of a need I'm just generally a go with the better player person unless there's some big red flags that say a particular player won't work and I don't see any of those with Bosh. He seems like a good team player, doesn't really have any glaring weaknesses in his game that i can see, isn't injury prone, and has plenty of experience but is still young enough that he's got quite a few years left in his prime. The only potential problem I can see is that he surely wouldn't be too happy about coming here but you're going to have to deal with that with any high caliber player that gets traded to the Kings. You just hope that they end up seeing the light the way Webber did.

he's soft as a baby's bottom. A fat baby. That's his glaring weakness. He is a "power" forward who doesn't like to bang, who isn't a real post threat, who can be muscled on the boards, and who's offense is a midrange jumper. Yes, he's one of the better PFs in the league, he is a skilled offensive player, but he's a weenie, and looked it against Chandler. That's before we get to the lack of mental toughness.

Before we had an offensive big, when we needed one, I considered him, as I've said. Now that we have our offensive big, there is NO room for him. He in fact flies directly in the face of the physical, tough, rebounding team we are putting together. For our team I would take Dalembert every day and twice on Sundays.

Here's a query -- do you think Dallas would trade Chandler for him? Shake your head. In fact when it comes time to win titles, Tysons Chandler is MORE important than Chris Bosh. Think when was the last time a title team DIDN'T have Tyson Chandler on their team? I cna tell you when that was -- the Jordan Bulls, who only had Dennis Rodman and a 7'2" center named Luc Longley. Since that time its been Shaq, and Duncan/Robinson, and Ben Wallace and Perkins and Bynum and Chandler...you get beyond your superstar, the next greatest common denominator on championship teams is the lane clugging rebounding physical big man. The skilled jumpshooting weenie big man comes somewhat lower on the list.
 
Chris Bosh played great defense for Miami this year by using his length and quickness to shut down the pick and roll. He's better than Tyson Chandler, and he's a heck of a lot better than Dalembert.

Dallas probably wouldn't trade Chandler for Bosh because Nowitzki and Bosh are a poor fit. Miami, might even think about that trade because of the way Chandler would help their team. However 9 out of 10 teams would not. Bosh is a two-way player and much less injury prone than Chandler.

There is no chance Miami wants do a S&T for Bosh and Dalambert. That is crazy talk. If the Kings had that opportunity and passed the Miami Heat should report them to the league office for incompetence. Like how you see a really terrible parent feeding their kids corndogs they found out of the trash.
 
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he's soft as a baby's bottom. A fat baby. That's his glaring weakness. He is a "power" forward who doesn't like to bang, who isn't a real post threat, who can be muscled on the boards, and who's offense is a midrange jumper. Yes, he's one of the better PFs in the league, he is a skilled offensive player, but he's a weenie, and looked it against Chandler. That's before we get to the lack of mental toughness.

Before we had an offensive big, when we needed one, I considered him, as I've said. Now that we have our offensive big, there is NO room for him. He in fact flies directly in the face of the physical, tough, rebounding team we are putting together. For our team I would take Dalembert every day and twice on Sundays.

Here's a query -- do you think Dallas would trade Chandler for him? Shake your head. In fact when it comes time to win titles, Tysons Chandler is MORE important than Chris Bosh. Think when was the last time a title team DIDN'T have Tyson Chandler on their team? I cna tell you when that was -- the Jordan Bulls, who only had Dennis Rodman and a 7'2" center named Luc Longley. Since that time its been Shaq, and Duncan/Robinson, and Ben Wallace and Perkins and Bynum and Chandler...you get beyond your superstar, the next greatest common denominator on championship teams is the lane clugging rebounding physical big man. The skilled jumpshooting weenie big man comes somewhat lower on the list.


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i don't want that fake tough guy rocking a kings jersey.
 
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Chris Bosh played great defense for Miami this year by using his length and quickness to shut down the pick and roll. He's better than Tyson Chandler, and he's a heck of a lot better than Dalembert.

Chandler couldn't hear you - he was a bit too busy taking part in a championship parade. Bosh didn't shut down the pick and roll - Barea and Kidd had quite a few open shots. There are two parts to a pick and roll. Chandler also had quite a few offensive rebounds in the series. Bosh may have scored more points (of this, I'm not sure), but that was pretty much it.
 
There is no chance Miami wants do a S&T for Bosh and Dalambert. That is crazy talk. If the Kings had that opportunity and passed the Miami Heat should report them to the league office for incompetence. Like how you see a really terrible parent feeding their kids corndogs they found out of the trash.

Glad to see someones else see this the same way i do. I was beginning to think it was just me. The status some folks have pumped Dalembert up to leaves me bewildered, frankly.
 
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