Carmichael Dave going HAM on twitter about the Magoofs

[BMiller52]

Just look at his timeline, seriously: https://twitter.com/#!/CarmichaelDave

 

[rainmaker]

Interesting

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
And the BOG? Stern is more pissed than KJ! Where are they gonna go? Seattle? It's checkmate people, but you HAVE TO SEE THE WHOLE BOARD..

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
The elephant in the room is this: Is the best chance to keep the Kings in Sac new ownership?If the answer is yes,the path is crystal clear.


Question is, how much does he know which he isn't saying?

 

[BMiller52]

https://twitter.com/CarmichaelDave/status/209862084555579392
And please don't bring your Grant/KHTK hate to me. I feel so badly for those guys. You try biting the hand that feeds you at your job, dummy

safe to say Grant has just been bs'ing because he gets paid by the Maloofs, and he doesn't even believe the stuff he says? lol

 

[rainmaker]

https://twitter.com/CarmichaelDave/status/209862084555579392
And please don't bring your Grant/KHTK hate to me. I feel so badly for those guys. You try biting the hand that feeds you at your job, dummy

safe to say Grant has just been bs'ing because he gets paid by the Maloofs, and he doesn't even believe the stuff he says? lol

Also makes him a sellout. Some stand for what is right, others willingly lie to tens of thousands for a paycheck.

 

[JB_kings]

Dave's just saying what many have already been saying. He just has a louder voice to be heard.

 

[BMiller52]

Dave's just saying what many have already been saying. He just has a louder voice to be heard.

Well yeah, but the difference is he was on the inside so he's a legit source instead of us "conspiracy theorists". And yes I've been called that on twitter+cussed out for saying the same things that he's saying now.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Keepit going Dave!

 

[kingjatt]

interesting, Dave is basically saying don't go to the games, they will file for relocation regardless. I remember some people being conflicted as to what they should do as far as attending games next year, if Dave really does know something that we don't then its safe to say that we should leave that arena empty next year.

 

[JB_kings]

Maloofs always seem to make bad decisions. If they had anything to do with getting Dave canned by CBS, then this was probably another big blunder.

 

[VF21]

interesting, Dave is basically saying don't go to the games, they will file for relocation regardless. I remember some people being conflicted as to what they should do as far as attending games next year, if Dave really does know something that we don't then its safe to say that we should leave that arena empty next year.

If they're going to file for relocation regardless, then I will definitely go to as many games as I possibly can. I know that might not make sense to some, but I have loved THE TEAM since 1985. I will not blame the players for what the Maloofs may or may not do. I will support the team. I could not do anything else.

 

[VF21]

Interesting

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
And the BOG? Stern is more pissed than KJ! Where are they gonna go? Seattle? It's checkmate people, but you HAVE TO SEE THE WHOLE BOARD..

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
The elephant in the room is this: Is the best chance to keep the Kings in Sac new ownership?If the answer is yes,the path is crystal clear.


Question is, how much does he know which he isn't saying?

I still firmly believe this isn't over yet. With the Kings getting a decent but not spectacular draft slot, the Maloofs may be listening to an offer they cannot refuse sooner rather than later.

 

[captain bill]

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
Is it Smart's fault? Petrie? Let's put it this way- Try letting Bobby Flay cook a gourmet meal for 200 with a 25 dollar ATM card.

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
I like the Maloofs personally. I do. But if they don't get off their wallet this offseason and SPEND, anyone who gives them a dime is MENTAL

Carmichael Dave ‏@CarmichaelDave
And I'm not going to kill the Maloofs either. I know all sides, really I do. But if they cannot spend the $ necessary to run a good team....(cont) then I can't support them owning MY team. I can't encourage my friends to buy a product that will lengthen the tenure of ownership



Amazing

 

[upinsmoke]

I still firmly believe this isn't over yet. With the Kings getting a decent but not spectacular draft slot, the Maloofs may be listening to an offer they cannot refuse sooner rather than later.

My take is if they were forced to sell off the beer distribution company and palms (still crazy to think about it) then the sports franchise is next, there just looking to get everything they possibly can out of the deal. In all likelyhood there done with pro sports and george could care less as long as they get out of the massive amount of debt they have with a little something to pocket on the side.

 

[Spike]

The only thing I disagree with is not attending the games. If there is a fight to be had, it's to show that Sacramento loves the team. The Maloofs can only operate on the margins for so long. Will starving them out work? If they're going to file anyways, not showing up will just add to their side of the argument. That being said, I do suppose it's better to rip off the bandaid all at once. It will be painful, but it might be for the best. Can we starve them out before the end of next season? That might be the question worth asking.

 

[upinsmoke]

The only thing I disagree with is not attending the games. If there is a fight to be had, it's to show that Sacramento loves the team. The Maloofs can only operate on the margins for so long. Will starving them out work? If they're going to file anyways, not showing up will just add to their side of the argument. That being said, I do suppose it's better to rip off the bandaid all at once. It will be painful, but it might be for the best. Can we starve them out before the end of next season? That might be the question worth asking.

Eat before attending a game and carpool or make the walk from wal-mart or any other shopping center.

 

[JB_kings]

Not too many easy answers. Perhaps the best thing is not to be a season ticket holder and then purchase single game tickets. Probably get better price for the discounted seats and hit them in the wallet that way. If the Maloofs got worried and called up the season ticket holders when they cancelled, then I'm guessing that was a high profit item. Plus that also supports the arena workers and players. The other way to hit them is in the sponsor money. I have to believe they shot their own foot there so often they don't need any effort on our part.

 

[folsomfella]

The only thing I disagree with is not attending the games. If there is a fight to be had, it's to show that Sacramento loves the team. The Maloofs can only operate on the margins for so long. Will starving them out work? If they're going to file anyways, not showing up will just add to their side of the argument. That being said, I do suppose it's better to rip off the bandaid all at once. It will be painful, but it might be for the best. Can we starve them out before the end of next season? That might be the question worth asking.

You won't prove anything by going. People already know - as does the league - that Kings fans are good fans. You said it yourself. If they're going to file anyway... then you'd be a fool to give them your money. What you should do is organize protests at or near Arco - say you support the team but can not in good conscience give your money to such ownership.

 

[macadocious]

I don't think there is a lot we can do at this point. The secret is out. KJ is on the side of the city first and foremost. He has Stern on his side and a great working relationship/friendship. I truly believe that Stern will do whatever he can within the power of the league and being the conniving son of a ***** that he is, he will get the BOG and other owners to do it, so it doesn't look like it's coming from him.

 

[Section 101]

Not too many easy answers. Perhaps the best thing is not to be a season ticket holder and then purchase single game tickets. Probably get better price for the discounted seats and hit them in the wallet that way. If the Maloofs got worried and called up the season ticket holders when they cancelled, then I'm guessing that was a high profit item. Plus that also supports the arena workers and players. The other way to hit them is in the sponsor money. I have to believe they shot their own foot there so often they don't need any effort on our part.

See here is the problem. I've been a season ticket holder since 1990. Lets say I give them up. Now the team gets sold and we get a new arena. There is no guarantee I get my service time back to get my preferred seats in the new arena. That goes for anyone who is not a season ticket holder. You may lose your preferred seats if we do get the new ESC.

 

[upinsmoke]

See here is the problem. I've been a season ticket holder since 1990. Lets say I give them up. Now the team gets sold and we get a new arena. There is no guarantee I get my service time back to get my preferred seats in the new arena. That goes for anyone who is not a season ticket holder. You may lose your preferred seats if we do get the new ESC.

Preffered seats is what your worried about? We have bigger fish to fry my friend.

 

[Glenn]

The only thing I disagree with is not attending the games. If there is a fight to be had, it's to show that Sacramento loves the team. The Maloofs can only operate on the margins for so long. Will starving them out work? If they're going to file anyways, not showing up will just add to their side of the argument. That being said, I do suppose it's better to rip off the bandaid all at once. It will be painful, but it might be for the best. Can we starve them out before the end of next season? That might be the question worth asking.

You seriously can't believe that the entire NBA knows about the Sacramento fans. I don't think there is anything that can happen to hurt our reputation. If you want to go to a game, go. If you don't want to go, don't go. But at this point, I don't think anything we do can change our reputation. What happened last year happens once in a lifetime the way everybody in the area rallied to keep the Kings.

AQ person on the BOG looking at low attendance for example would think "the Maloofds deserved it" and might even go as far as to attribute the bottom falling off attendance to the hatred for the Maloofs. We have seen that some people get rich by inheritance but most of the owners got rich by working ahrd and being intelligent. Besides they have Stern whipping up a frenzy of anti-Maloof frenzy.

Edit: I see several people agree with me. Hey, we are respected.

 

[kingjatt]

See here is the problem. I've been a season ticket holder since 1990. Lets say I give them up. Now the team gets sold and we get a new arena. There is no guarantee I get my service time back to get my preferred seats in the new arena. That goes for anyone who is not a season ticket holder. You may lose your preferred seats if we do get the new ESC.

theres no guarantee that we even get a new ESC or that the team stays, if less people going to the arena/less season ticket holders in fact does increases the chance of a faster sale from the maloofs, by which all indications from the higher ups says it does, then I would take the chance, I'd rather watch the kings from a few rows back than not have them to watch at all.

My thought process is that as long as people keep filing into the arena the more stern and the league office is going to think that the backlash is not that bad, as big of an issue it is to us its not as big to the league, they have many other things going on that matter more to them than our arena situation. The only way to shake them up and get their attention is to effect their pockets.

We dont have to worry about giving the magoofs amo for their case to leave next march because a 19 out of 25 season sellout streak does not happen by accident and with KJ in Stern's ear to reinforce the fact that kings fans are ready to spend money as long they have owners they can trust we (the city) has plenty of amo in our own right.

stern will be able to connect the dots if that arena is empty next year, he will know exactly why, not because we are not a loyal fanbase but because we have scumbag owners which he found out first hand in april.

I agree with CD its time to stop blindly supporting the maloofs as we have and its time to take a stand, they hit us where it hurts by not paying their share of an ESC now its our turn, (and the sponsors) to hit them where it hurts, in the pocket book.

 

[PurpleHaze]

I wholeheartedly agree that we as Kings fans must NOW put our foot down squarely on Maloofs neck and not continue to routinely "serve them." It starts with corporate sponsers. Perhaps someone could list biggest and most lucrative supporting MSE - so we can contact them with direct protest and prepare an organized boycott. Folsom Lake Ford, VSP Vision Care, Thunder Valley Casino, all come to mind. Then there's ones like Petkus Brothers who Napear pitches relentlessly on his KHTK sports radio show. I for one may still attend a few Kings games next season but will not park in their lot and will not buy a single concession item. But my cheering and yelling will definitely be as loud as ever for "our" Sacramento Kings team.

 

[fansinceday1]

If they're going to file for relocation regardless, then I will definitely go to as many games as I possibly can. I know that might not make sense to some, but I have loved THE TEAM since 1985. I will not blame the players for what the Maloofs may or may not do. I will support the team. I could not do anything else.

You have no problem with your hard earned money going into the maloofs pockets? Wow.......

 

[VF21]

You have no problem with your hard earned money going into the maloofs pockets? Wow.......

Whatever.

It's not about hard-earned money going into their pockets. It's about supporting the players who go out there every night and deserve my support. I won't buy food from them; I won't attend ANY other events at PBP; I won't pay for parking.

I don't attend a lot of games and I'm not a season ticket holder. I'm not buying any merchandise from the team store. I'm sorry if that's not enough for you.

 

[Mike0476]

This was what I posted a few months ago and I have not changed my mind from what I said. Some of what I posted is outdated.

"We have a week or two left in the season. I think we should support our team for the next couple of weeks and we need to do that. That's the respectable thing for Sacramento to do." - Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson, April 13, 2012

Mad. Upset. Angry. Frustrated. Sad. Depressed. Betrayed. Confused. Hurt. Helpless. Worried.

Those are some of the adjectives I have seen written by so many over the last 24 plus hours since what went down in New York.

It is completely understandable to feel what we are all feeling. It is human nature to do so.

I have also seen so many discuss the idea of boycotting and/or protesting. Really? Really?

What will that accomplish? Use your critical thinking skills and the first person to give me an explanation and tell me why that would work in our favor wins blue prints to the Death Star.

Boycotting and/or protesting is exactly what the Maloofs want you to do just like they wanted you to feel those adjectives I mentioned above. It is all a part of their plan so do not fall for it.

Maybe it is just me but I did not hit the panic button. Instead I came home from work to make a few phone calls to rally the troops. I was going to do this regardless of the outcome but this makes it that much more urgent. Then I watched a comedy movie (American Reunion was a funny movie and highly recommended). That is how I dealt with the situation.

Boycotting and/or protesting would only provide more fuel to the fire for the Maloofs to seek a relocation. Of course I do not see them getting the approval from their fellow NBA owners, but that is another story for another day.

For now the Sacramento Kings are still our Sacramento Kings. I did not see any moving vans. Did you? I admit I am blind to an extent but I never saw one. The team will remain in town for another season. After that? Who knows?

So what should we do?

We should continue to go about our lives as if the news we heard never happened, to an extent of course. Our local boy and hero Mayor Kevin Johnson said it best during his press conference. We should continue to support our team. That would be the respectful thing to do for Sacramento. That is how we should be remembered.

We need to show our local community and the nation that we have class and are not going to stoop down to the level of a family that has made it clear that they do not want to be in Sacramento.

We should NOT cancel our season tickets for next season. I refuse to do so. I hope others will follow in my lead. I will also attend other events at ARCO Arena (it will always be ARCO Arena to me) as long as we have any and that I would like to go to.

Please also remember we need to also think about those who are employed at the old barn. Most depend on their job there to keep a roof over their head, food on the table, to care for their families, as a second income, etc. Do not let them become the collateral damage.

Tweeting and posting your thoughts, comments and opinions are fine. But to get something to trend? What will that accomplish? The power of Twitter will not change anything. Trending how much you want new ownership will fall on deaf ears. Instead buy a ticket and support our town and our team. The visualization of a packed crowd to cheer on our SACRAMENTO KINGS is all our community and the world needs to see.

That is why I am asking you, yes you, to join us this Sunday at the Sacramento International Airport to welcome home the only hero in this arena saga: Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson.

Mayor Johnson has done the impossible and accomplished that in just one year. He played a game of poker with the NBA with the Maloofs hanging in the balance. Mayor Johnson threw down his cards and won us another year to keep our hopes and dreams alive.

Mayor Johnson was able to raise $10 million in new sponsorship and ticket money from the business community. He was able to get ICON on board along with some dude named Burkle.

If that was not enough he was able to bring on AEG, get an environmental issue taken care of, etc.

We owe our gratitude and appreciation to Mayor Johnson. So let's show him our love at the airport on Sunday and then again this Tuesday night at city hall.

Here's the catch though. There is a dress code. You cannot wear any Sacramento Kings gear including hats, jackets, jerseys, sweaters, shirts, etc. I do not want to see a Power Balance bracelet either.

Instead wear your white #FANS shirt. We are well known and respected by the city council as we have demonstrated that we are educated with facts on why we need a new downtown arena for reasons that are #BiggerThanBasketball (yes, there is a hashtag but I could care less if it trends or not). We do not have Kings tunnel vision. Yes, we admit most of us are Kings fans but not all of us are but more importantly we are #FANS of Sacramento.

If you do not have a white #FANS shirt, do not worry. Simply wear a plain white shirt. You will blend in nicely with the rest of us.

Mayor Johnson will be arriving in Sacramento tomorrow (Sunday) at 12:17 p.m. Flight (2284) Delta.

We will then be at Sacramento City Hall no later than 5:30pm this Tuesday evening.

Hope to see you all there.

 

[Larry David]

Whatever.

It's not about hard-earned money going into their pockets. It's about supporting the players who go out there every night and deserve my support. I won't buy food from them; I won't attend ANY other events at PBP; I won't pay for parking.

I don't attend a lot of games and I'm not a season ticket holder. I'm not buying any merchandise from the team store. I'm sorry if that's not enough for you.

The problem is that 9,000 fans at the game makes a case that the market went bad when the bubble went pop here. We used to draw when tickets were cheap until 2003. We used to draw when people had money here. Since 2008, the Kings often draw 9,000 PAID fans on a lot of nights. That's was the case before this spring, we have to show the league thing have changed since then in a big way.

Because of what went down, the casual fans are gone for next year. It's up to the die hards to make or break the Maloofs and a statment to the NBA. If a lot stay home, there will be some games with 4,500 paid fans when bad teams come to town on a Tuesday. We need to show the league that we're done with the Maloofs now and this can't fester or the market gets burned to the ground. 9,000 fans at a game is a problem. Because most people are done with the Kings, you can't average 15,000 next year. That ship sailed with Davis. If fans can't push the number up, it has to come way down to matter.

Same is a killer. It doesn't help KJ. It helps the Maloofs.

You want to support the players? Get them a real owner in the next 12 months!

The Maloofs have taken the gloves off and are playing hardball with the intent to move. It's time for the die hards to get smart and work to keep the team by dumping the owners.

 

[Larry David]

Mike. KJ has to say that. If he's out there saying, let's cut the Maloofs off at the knees, the other owners aren't going to help us. He was also talking about the end of last season. At this point, you are either helping the Maloofs keep the team and move it out or helping Stern or KJ with your money.

The place is often 75% full with a lot of tickets marked down or given away. It's all about leverage at this point. The Maloofs have to try to make the case that Sacramento isn't an NBA market any more. Stern can't get rid of the Maloofs until he can make the case that they are hurting the NBA's market.

Because of the black friday press conference, there aren't enough fans to make a case to the BOG by pushing the attendance number up. No matter what, it's going down. The only issue is how big of a drop. If it's just a little worse, the Maloofs case gets better. Nobody cares. Because Sac steped up last season with ticket sales, made a fair arena deal, and the Maloofs threw dirt on the league and the city Friday, and most fans stay away, Stern gets a lot of leverage to step in. There are fans here, they are just done with the owners, who failed the city.

 

[VF21]

The problem is that 9,000 fans at the game makes a case that the market went bad when the bubble went pop here. We used to draw when tickets were cheap until 2003. We used to draw when people had money here. Since 2008, the Kings often draw 9,000 PAID fans on a lot of nights. That's was the case before this spring, we have to show the league thing have changed since then in a big way.

Because of what went down, the casual fans are gone for next year. It's up to the die hards to make or break the Maloofs and a statment to the NBA. If a lot stay home, there will be some games with 4,500 paid fans when bad teams come to town on a Tuesday. We need to show the league that we're done with the Maloofs now and this can't fester or the market gets burned to the ground. 9,000 fans at a game is a problem. Because most people are done with the Kings, you can't average 15,000 next year. That ship sailed with Davis. If fans can't push the number up, it has to come way down to matter.

Same is a killer. It doesn't help KJ. It helps the Maloofs.

You want to support the players? Get them a real owner in the next 12 months!

The Maloofs have taken the gloves off and are playing hardball with the intent to move. It's time for the die hards to get smart and work to keep the team by dumping the owners.

If you don't want to go to the games, don't go. But please do not try and convince me to stay away. It's not gonna happen. I don't root for lins and I don't punish the players of the team I've loved since 1985 because the current owners are bozos.

The Maloofs are playing hard ball? So far, they look like they're playing Keystone Cops. You can hit them in the wallet in a lot of ways without actually giving up on the team. And I don't care what you say - staying away is an insult to the guys who are playing the game and I won't be a part of it.

I respect your right to your opinion and your choice, whatever it might be, but it does not mean I agree with it. I would ask for the same in return.

 

[Larry David]

I respect your right to your opinion and your choice, whatever it might be, but it does not mean I agree with it. I would ask for the same in return.

I do. And some people doing this isn't a big deal. When a lot of people take your position, it hurts the odds the team stays. IMO, if you want this team to stay badly enough, you should stay away.

Heck, stay away for a month or two. When the Kings are playing in front of A's crowds a lot of nights for a month, the point will be proven and the Maloofs might sell. You can cheer the guys on in 2013. By that point, a lot of fans will get what's going on. They can stay home and you can go. Win win.