Can the Kings Protest?

[ElRey]

I know we won this game, but I don't think the league is going to overturn it. I just don't like how Memphis' GM and coach are coming out and saying they clearly won this game when there is a lot of evidence otherwise. The proper response is just be glad you were given a gift and just shut up.

I now kind of DON'T want the league to overturn it. I want the Kings to remember this game and PUMMEL the living crap of the Grizzlies every time we play them.

 

[Gary]

Wonder how many people already got payed out for betting on the Grizzlies. How does that work if the NBA changes the win to the Kings?

That's probably why the NBA wont change it to a win.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

How many times have they asked the teams to replay the last part of a game and how often have they changed the out come of a game.

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I just expect that if they do support the protest they are likely to do as they have rarely done rather than as they have never done.

The difference here, as I see it, is that all if the other instances where the NBA has upheld a protest have had the offending ruling take place with time left on the clock - as little as three seconds, but in each case after the correct ruling was applied, play continued with the correct ruling. In our case, if the correct ruling is applied, the game is over.

For the NBA to say that the shot clock did not appropriately start and to replay...that would be a cop out since instant replay, if applied correctly, would have declared the game over. I mean, I'd take it, but it would be a cop out.

 

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[HereWeBoogie]

That's probably why the NBA wont change it to a win.

Haha maybe. But if you think about, since the Kings were probably a huge underdog playing on the road against the team with the best record in the league, there were probably MORE people putting money on the Kings than the Grizzlies

 

[VF21]

... i give adam silver a lot of credit for projecting immense strength as commish since he took over for david stern; i sincerely doubt that he'll throw his refs under the bus over a judgment call during a regular season game in november...

The other side of that particular coin is that Adam Silver and the league will acknowledge the advanced technology that shows the altered trajectory of the ball after it grazed Hollins' hand and use this game as a keystone to further strengthen the replay center role in the future. I would heartily support the center making those calls. If the whole purpose of replay is to make sure the correct call is made, then the officials are going to have to accept that their judgment calls may in fact be overturned.

At the end of the process, they may rule that Hollins DID touch the ball which means time ran out before it even got to Lee. Game Kings.

 

[Glenn]

The other side of that particular coin is that Adam Silver and the league will acknowledge the advanced technology that shows the altered trajectory of the ball after it grazed Hollins' hand and use this game as a keystone to further strengthen the replay center role in the future. I would heartily support the center making those calls. If the whole purpose of replay is to make sure the correct call is made, then the officials are going to have to accept that their judgment calls may in fact be overturned.

At the end of the process, they may rule that Hollins DID touch the ball which means time ran out before it even got to Lee. Game Kings.

This is the point, isn't it?

 

[SacKings384]

You know when I heard that they were going to have a replay command center I was really hoping that came along with a command center that would make the calls as well, as opposed to allowing the refs who make the initials calls determine whether or not they're personal call should be overturned.

 

[randymoss1881]

You know when I heard that they were going to have a replay command center I was really hoping that came along with a command center that would make the calls as well, as opposed to allowing the refs who make the initials calls determine whether or not they're personal call should be overturned.

All that stupid command center is doing is adding 2-3mon to every review no matter how obvious it is.

 

[hrdboild]

I don't think the NBA will change the outcome either. I'm mostly curious if they decide to state that the evidence was inconclusive or not. I think the timing on the clock is inconclusive. It started late, but he might have barely got it off anyway. But there does appear to be conclusive evidence that the ball was tipped in which case time would have expired before Lee even got to the ball. Watching it live I thought the ball was tipped and there are more than enough angles which show altered trajectory and spin to confirm that suspicion. They could use the "inconclusive evidence" line as an excuse to avoid admitting the refs screwed up the play twice: in real-time (not one of them was watching to see if 7 foot Hollins made contact with the ball?) and on the review, but it's pretty obvious at this point that it would just be an excuse. Upholding the call because it's up to the judgement of the refs on the court makes replay more or less useless. I have a feeling they're going to go this direction though just to get it out of the way until the same thing happens in a playoff game.

This happened when they implemented replay in baseball and the umps still got it wrong so often (they're stubborn that way) that they had to cave in and go to a central replay review center in New York, which has improved matters quite a bit.

 

[Fireplug]

As to the gambling aspect. Pretty sure after all these years that there are rules built into the betting world saying that the original result is what will result in a payoff.

Just like guys kneeling on the one yard line that could have scored, it is part of playing the gambling game.

And here is a new one. BTW, Pete D. appreciates all the stuff we all have been coming up with to help.

 

[VF21]

Thanks for all the effort you've put into this, Plug. I'm glad to see you getting some recognition from the front office.

 

[Glenn]

Thanks for all the effort you've put into this, Plug. I'm glad to see you getting some recognition from the front office.

"Plug" lacks the first name.

 

[New Era]

I'm wondering if the delay in the NBA deciding on this is a good thing for us. Seems to me if it was going to be the automatic "yeah, we screwed up, but we aren't changing it" answer we would have heard that already. Maybe they are just trying to figure out how to break the news and the possible ramifications of changing the outcome of a game like this.

 

[The Hammer]

I'm wondering if the delay in the NBA deciding on this is a good thing for us. Seems to me if it was going to be the automatic "yeah, we screwed up, but we aren't changing it" answer we would have heard that already. Maybe they are just trying to figure out how to break the news and the possible ramifications of changing the outcome of a game like this.

I'm inclined to think the delay is a good sign. That, when they eventually may rule in our favor, which would be an unusual thing, they will be able to say they considered it very closely and considered precedent, blah blah blah. I kind of have a feeling we may win this one. And if we do, I think a lot of that falls on Granger. The guy would have basically been second in command to Silver at the league if he stayed at league offices. Granger's probably our greatest asset in a case like this.

 

[VF21]

I'm inclined to think the delay is a good sign. That, when they eventually may rule in our favor, which would be an unusual thing, they will be able to say they considered it very closely and considered precedent, blah blah blah. I kind of have a feeling we may win this one. And if we do, I think a lot of that falls on Granger. The guy would have basically been second in command to Silver at the league if he stayed at league offices. Granger's probably our greatest asset in a case like this.

While I don't dispute the gravitas of Chris Granger, I think our greatest asset in this case is physics.