Buddy and Bogdan’s extension?
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I hope so. My only point is if an extension DOESN'T get done, then it's a failure of understanding his market if we thought he could be had for only 90 mil.
Yeah 90 mil is him being underpaid for the value he brings. I have no issue with what he's saying, he wants to be here. But he wants to be paid what he's worth.
PHXSUNSFAN
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Damn at the 40 second mark of this, he went after the Kings being a small market and basically called them out for never attracting any top FA targets.
That’s uncalled for imo. This is gonna get ugly if he keeps talking and it’s gonna ruin the progress that the Kings have made towards being a playoff caliber team.
This isn’t worth $20M, Divac is better off just paying him that.
Is this serious
How about no, we should overpay him cause he thinks nobody will come here great move his ass than. He’s replaceable we’re not talking about Fox or even Bagley here
Exactly 20 million goes a long way i don't care what he think he's worth 90 million is plenty enough, again it was dumb to pay Barnes and that was the move that pretty much set us back a long way but no need to compound.
Other than Fox (Bagley jury out would not trade him atm) everyone else is expendable.
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And this ladies and gentlemen, is how we end up never making the playoffs.
bubulina
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Didn't like how Buddy managed and is still managing his free agency. I won't shed tears at all if he leaves.
The Effort Police
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Are we going to throw a fit every time someone touches a nerve?
Because he's right. This is a backwater, loser franchise whose only path to relevancy is through homegrowing talent like we've been doing. Big name FAs don't sign here; everyone knows that. While everyone was begging to throw a 4 year max at Vucevic or whatever, they frontloaded Barnes' contract and went after 2-3 years deals with partial guarantees to seemingly be able to fit everyone into their plans.
You all better be prepared to hear something like this from Bagley in two years, who very much can be a diva. But maybe we're better off with some ho-hum role players and busts that won't be upstarts, for old time's sake.
This is also agent talk, btw.
Because he's right. This is a backwater, loser franchise whose only path to relevancy is through homegrowing talent like we've been doing. Big name FAs don't sign here; everyone knows that. While everyone was begging to throw a 4 year max at Vucevic or whatever, they frontloaded Barnes' contract and went after 2-3 years deals with partial guarantees to seemingly be able to fit everyone into their plans.
You all better be prepared to hear something like this from Bagley in two years, who very much can be a diva. But maybe we're better off with some ho-hum role players and busts that won't be upstarts, for old time's sake.
This is also agent talk, btw.
coolhandluke
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The Kings seem to have their priorities wrong. They were busy splurging on the bells and whistles (Ariza) while trying to skimp on the necessities (Buddy).
You have to secure the foundation first and that starts with keeping Buddy. He is the most consistent player and the best offensive option on the team. It doesn't make any sense for the Kings to lowball him with a 4 year, 90 mil contract when they just handed out a 4 year, 85 mil contract to Barnes. If this is how they are undervaluing a core player, what chance do they have of retaining Fox or Bagley without a solid foundation? Further, a guy like Buddy, with his gravity, provides improved spacing for Fox and Bagley to be more efficient. The fit is there, the chemistry is there - why do you want to mess that up?
You have to secure the foundation first and that starts with keeping Buddy. He is the most consistent player and the best offensive option on the team. It doesn't make any sense for the Kings to lowball him with a 4 year, 90 mil contract when they just handed out a 4 year, 85 mil contract to Barnes. If this is how they are undervaluing a core player, what chance do they have of retaining Fox or Bagley without a solid foundation? Further, a guy like Buddy, with his gravity, provides improved spacing for Fox and Bagley to be more efficient. The fit is there, the chemistry is there - why do you want to mess that up?
King Baller
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WCS could tell the difference? Is it because of the big deal he got with the W's? Oh, wait he got ................
Look at Bonzi Wells, DMC, IT and even Rudy Gay. The grass is not always greener and injuries happen.
Look no further at Steph Curry taking less on his first post rookie deal to allow the W's to build what they built. I know Buddy's older than Curry when he signed that deal, but Buddy and His Agent need to make the smart move and IMO that is a negotiation that leaves the Kings able to keep a good team around Buddy so he gets all those good looks at the hoop.
coolhandluke
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This is like asking a happy couple that just renewed their wedding vows if they could trade their spouse for your spouse and kid.
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Folsomkingsfan
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Who do we replace him with?
Livinthedream
All-Star
Wow. I have no problem with any player going after the salary they think they deserve. However, if the negotiations are happening through the media, it's a sign that things behind the scenes have stalled or are breaking down.
coolhandluke
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You are in for a rude awakening if you think Bogi is going to take an $13 mil per year contract.
Peja
Bench
I personally don't like Buddy's statement at all. If you really want to be here in the coming years and if you're committed to staying, you don't go out and talk like that.
I mean, does he thinks Vlade and the Kings are just going to give him 20 million more because he gave the public statement and put the pressure on them? I don't think it works that way.
I mean, does he thinks Vlade and the Kings are just going to give him 20 million more because he gave the public statement and put the pressure on them? I don't think it works that way.
kb02
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Please see my comments here (page 7 of this thread):
Yesterday at 8:07 AM
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Hoovtrain said: the report, and from his mouth, is That he’s weighing the offer...not that he won’t sign it
KB02: Yea, "but he's not going to sign it" is my opinion. He would've done so already. He has all of the facts. Knows the community, knows the team, knows...I don't see it, barring an injury.
The Kings are smart. Sequencing the offers. Using Bogi's offer as an anchor for Buddy's value. We'll see.
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coolhandluke
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So, no point in using a PR offer as a basis for comparison.
Tetsujin
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Beal is one of the most underrated players in the league stuck on a rebuilding/horrific Wizards team that won't be relevant again until he's probably past his prime. In your analogy, the Wizards would be an abusive alcoholic husband who owes the Russian mob several million dollars in gambling debt and Beal would be like the best friend girl from a Judd Apatow movie who is kinda cute but then takes off her glasses halfway though the film to reveal she's a supermodel.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
You mean the best way to get a raise isn't to badmouth your boss at the company Christmas party then puke all over his pants?
LPKingsFan
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Given the nature of restricted free agency, the team still holds most of the leverage, so Buddy is trying to use what he can. I wouldn’t be so quick to assume the team just brushes this off and doesn’t blink. Jason Jones’s piece today at the Athletic talks about how players/agents around the league are wary of this FO after they promised Cousins the Supermax and then turned around and traded him. Perception matters. And I think Vlade is attuned to that.
Section 101
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Buddy with the Bonzi move. He wont get that next year in RFA. GMs will be cautious with the uncertainty of the cap with revenues potentially blundering. China stopping all nba sales would drop the cap about $10 mil. Then add in people in the US upset and boycotting. Keep in mind the cap was projected to go up and teams set contracts accordingly. Many would beome over the cap and tax payers.
A smart move for Buddy and his agent is to sign the biggest deal. A smart move for the Kings was to get a deal done without this petty small time time franchise negotiation in the media heading into a very important season with a new head coach.
Yes.
