Brooks favored for Kings job

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Brooks favored for Kings' job

Monday, May 7, 2007 11:37 am EDT
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Sacramento Kings assistant Scott Brooks is favored to replace Eric Musselman as head coach.

Nobody else seems to think he'll get more than a courtesy cross-examine.

However, the contender getting the most ink from local writers is John Whisenant, who coached the WNBA Sacramento Monarchs to two titles.

Source: New York Post

Related: Sacramento Kings
 
I still have a hard time believing they would hire a person without major NBA experience after the Musselman debacle. This is not an organization that can afford to screw this up again.
 
Rockmeister said:
However, the contender getting the most ink from local writers is John Whisenant, who coached the WNBA Sacramento Monarchs to two titles.
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The most ink??

I don't think I have seen any articles locally about the coaching search let alone anything promoting Whiz.

If they are so high on this guy why don't they just promote Brooks and make Whiz and Assistant Coach??
 
Rockmeister said:
Brooks favored for Kings' job

However, the contender getting the most ink from local writers is John Whisenant, who coached the WNBA Sacramento Monarchs to two titles.

Source: New York Post

Related: Sacramento Kings
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Um...last time I checked it was only one...gotta love rumors!:D
 
What We Really Need....

...is a mole on the inside. Then we could get some decent info. Better yet, a few bugs in Petrie's office and in his telephone would work. Anyone have some ex-CIA experience?;)
 
This is just speculation.

I love the way the article says Brooks is favored but doesn't say by whom. ;)

And the idea of Whisenant getting the job is a retread rumor that already surfaced and sank back down to the murky depths ... Not to mention I'd like to see all the "ink" the "local writers" are giving Whisenant. :rolleyes:

I'm reasonably sure the New York Post doesn't have the inside track on this.

:)
 
It's Peter Vescey:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05042007/sports/racism_cries_academic_sports_peter_vecsey.htm?page=0

I'm still hearing Kings assistant Scott Brooks is favored to replace Eric Musselman in Sacramento. Nobody else seems to think he'll get more than a courtesy cross-examine. The contender getting the most ink from local writers is John Whisenant, who coached the WNBA Monarchs to two titles.

Are team president Geoff Petrie and the Maloof brothers serious? Allow me to answer that. They're probably as serious about Whisenant as Colangelo is about hiring Italian Ettore Messina should Mitchell leave - though, I suspect, the 42-year-old coach of Moscow would start out in the NBA as Marc Iavaroni's assistant.
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van gundy would be nice, but with this roster i just dont know what coach could make this team relavent going into next season.... unless we're lucky enough to get one of the top 2 draft picks....

but brooks? what kind of offense would he run? lets not get started with our defense, ewww... damn our roster sucks...
 
In Voisin's column this morning, she makes passing mention of Petrie's options, saying that if he isn't really impressed with any of the other candidates he MIGHT select Brooks. I'm thinking this could be where Vescey got the "scoop." Of course, also in this morning's Bee (which I'm just too lazy to post) is a comment by Jeff Van Gundy, who says he's not stepping down and doesn't know where the NEW YORK POST got that idea...

Ah, the joys of TDOS.

:p
 
I'd rather have Brooks for a year and look at our options next year than get JVG. The guy just blew that series, his rotations sucked too. I'm not down with him. Bring on Iavaroni!
 
JVG? What has JVG ever done? He slows down the game to a crawl, and pounds it inside... (Ewing, Yao, etc.) We have... Brad Miller and Shareef... I don't think JVG is the best fit... Plus, I think he and Artest would rub eachother the wrong way, because we all saw how he handled the Bonzi situation.
 
Vlade4GM said:
I'd rather have Brooks for a year and look at our options next year than get JVG. The guy just blew that series, his rotations sucked too. I'm not down with him. Bring on Iavaroni!
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Yeah, I'd definetely rather have Iavaroni or SVG. That would work for me. But hey, if it's in the NY Post about Scotty Brooks, then it MUST be true!
 
AriesMar27 said:
van gundy would be nice, but with this roster i just dont know what coach could make this team relavent going into next season.... unless we're lucky enough to get one of the top 2 draft picks....

but brooks? what kind of offense would he run? lets not get started with our defense, ewww... damn our roster sucks...
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BINGO! Why would a coach with any standing in the league take this job and it's current roster? He'd have to be a moron, which instantly should eliminate him from consideration. So if we get a coach before we change the roster, he's either going to be young guy like Brooks who'll take whatever he can get, or a moron who doesn't know what he's getting into. Petrie needs to make his deals now so he can get a good coach later.
 
Kingster said:
Why would a coach with any standing in the league take this job and it's current roster? He'd have to be a moron, which instantly should eliminate him from consideration.
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The Marx Brothers theory of recruitment, eh?

"I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member."
-- Groucho Marx, submitting his resignation to the Hollywood Friar's Club
 
Kingster said:
BINGO! Why would a coach with any standing in the league take this job and it's current roster? He'd have to be a moron, which instantly should eliminate him from consideration. So if we get a coach before we change the roster, he's either going to be young guy like Brooks who'll take whatever he can get, or a moron who doesn't know what he's getting into. Petrie needs to make his deals now so he can get a good coach later.
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Ok, I see your point there, but then why did Rick Adelman take the job back in 98' when we had, arguably, a worse roster than now, and more turmoil internally than we do now...i.e.: Richmond situation/trade, C-Webb uncertainties, management/ownership uncertainties...oh yeah, and NOTHING really in the way of talent to show on the roster. The similarities are there...different times, I guess. But would you have called Adelman crazy, back then, for taking the job? We arent THAT old...at least with our core of young guys...Garcia, Martin, Douby, Salmons, Price, Williams...and Ron isnt THAT old, either. Should be interesting to see who GP and Co. pull out of their hats this time.
 
There may well be as many as half a dozen coaches on the market this summer who have taken teams to the conference finals, or finals:

Brown (3 Finals, 3? Conf Finals)
Adelman (2 Finals, 2 Conf. Finals)
Carlisle (2? Conf Finals)
Stan Van Gundy (1 Conf Finals)
Jeff Van Gundy (1 Finals, 1? Conf Finals)
Brian Hill (1 Finals, 1? Conf Finals)
Bob Hill (1 Conf Finals)


Not that I am advocating the brothers Hill, but the fact is that there are a bunch of proven coaches out there, guys who have proven they can coach a team to 55-60 wins, if not necessarily to a title. And that's ignoring other vet guys out there like Rudy T (2 Finals, 1? Conf final), Fratello (1? Conf Final) etc.

If we end up with a Scotty Brooks, who hasn't even been an assistant on a top team, let alone the head man on a top team (unlike the much hyped Iavaroni who has apprenticed under HOF coaches for multiple elite teams), its just an enormous risk, and bigger yet given the options out there. He might turn out to be a good coach, he might not. But we've got very little evidence to go on, and a second coaching misfire at this point would be disastrous and truly doom us to crapdom for a good long while. One mistake is a mistake. If you make many in a row, that eventually just becomes who you are, and you are right back on the Dick Motta/Jerry Reynolds/Gary St. Jean treadmill of sucktitude.
 
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Bricklayer said:
There may well be as many as half a dozen coaches on the market this summer who have taken teams to the conference finals, or finals:

Brown (3 Finals, 3? Conf Finals)
Adelman (2 Finals, 2 Conf. Finals)
Carlisle (2? Conf Finals)
Stan Van Gundy (1 Conf Finals)
Jeff Van Gundy (1 Finals, 1? Conf Finals)
Brian Hill (1 Finals, 1? Conf Finals)
Bob Hill (1 Conf Finals)


Not that I am advocating the brothers Hill, but the fact is that there are a bunch of proven coaches out there, guys who have proven they can coach a team to 55-60 wins, if not necessarily to a title. And that's ignoring other vet guys out there like Rudy T (2 Finals, 1? Conf final), Fratello (1? Conf Final) etc.

If we end up with a Scotty Brooks, who hasn't even been an assistant on a top team, let alone the head man on a top team (unlike the much hyped Iavaroni who has apprenticed under HOF coaches for multiple elite teams), its just an enormous risk, and bigger yet given the options out there. He might turn out to be a good coach, he might not. But we've got very little evidence to go on, and a second coaching misfire at this point would be disastrous and truly doom us to crapdom for a good long while. One mistake is a mistake. If you make many in a row, that eventually just becomes who you are, and you are right back on the Dick Motta/Jerry Reynolds/Gary St. Jean treadmill of sucktitude.
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I'm with you on everything there Brick...but what did most folks think of Adelman when we hired him?? Re-tred...has been...old school...?? Folks thought that was a mistake of sorts at first, and I think wanted us to hire the younger, flashier Kurt Rambis or someone like him. I know the first thing that I said was 'Well THAT's great...um...' I'd definetely take a pass on the Hill's Bros....I'd like SVG...definetely NO on Ole' Whiz...Brooks, who knows...doubt we could pry Brown from Philly(and not sure I'd want him here anyways), but I would like Iavaroni or Elie. God dang this unknown is awesome!(just like 98'!)
 
Brown (3 Finals, 3? Conf Finals) - Short-term only
Adelman (2 Finals, 2 Conf. Finals) - Ain't gonna happen
Carlisle (2? Conf Finals) - Too much like Musselman
Stan Van Gundy (1 Conf Finals) - Possible
Jeff Van Gundy (1 Finals, 1? Conf Finals) - Not even sure he's available
Brian Hill (1 Finals, 1? Conf Finals) - not convinced of his overall greatness
Bob Hill (1 Conf Finals) - same as Brian

At this point, I think the Kings are going to really be in a dogfight with the other teams looking for coaches because we're bottom feeders, like a lot of other teams. In fact, the only reason we aren't further down the food chain is because of the beautiful "dive jobs" some teams in the East did.

You may think Scott Brooks would be an enormous risk, but it's the longshots who pay off the best when they do come in. At this point, I don't think it would be a step backward and that's all that I'm really looking for right now.

But again, none of this is concrete. We have no idea what direction Petrie is going to go...
 
does anyone think that players may think that scott brooks may have the "musselman stink" since he was part his coaching staff?

(I'm not saying SB is not a good candidate, just wondering if players will associate him with musselman)....
 
mdme said:
does anyone think that players may think that scott brooks may have the "musselman stink" since he was part his coaching staff?

(I'm not saying SB is not a good candidate, just wondering if players will associate him with musselman)....
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Yes I do.

I also think the fanbase will have the same reaction.

If he's the guy, the rope will be very short, and he's going to have to prove everything from the very start. He has absolutely no built in rep to cushion things and make everybody give him some leeway. He owuld actually be better off as a candidate and otherwise to never have been here last year at all. And if he was to be the guy, it should have been as an interim coach last season after a midseason Muss canning -- that way you see what he's got in an already lost season, and if he does well, he enteres the new season with a rep and people having a reason to expect success. (Alternately if he falls on his face then you can jsut dismiss him wihtout messing up a whole new season or having to give him a guaranteed multi-year multimillion dollar contract while you are still paying Muss).
 
mdme said:
does anyone think that players may think that scott brooks may have the "musselman stink" since he was part his coaching staff?

(I'm not saying SB is not a good candidate, just wondering if players will associate him with musselman)....
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I'm reasonably sure exactly the opposite might well be true. The players worked well with Brooks and I don't think anyone had a problem with him. I've mentioned it before, but I think Brooks and Jason Hamm are the two hold-overs who really worked with the players, in spite of some of the problems Musselman was having.
 
I go back and forth on Brooks. On the one hand, barring a positively miraculous offseason the Kings still aren't going to be very good next year, so maybe you test-drive Brooks for a season, see how he does, and go into the next season with another high draft pick and another shot at a new coach if Brooks isn't up to snuff.

On the other hand, that kind of dithering is somewhat worrisome, and you start talking about going from a down year to outright disarray.

So I don't know.
 
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