AleksandarN
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What is wrong with Brad this year? He is not rebounding at all him and Pedja are terrible. When your starting center averages 6.2 rpg and your starting small foward averages 3.6 rpg there is something wrong.
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they just suck.... normally i dont bash them after a loss, but this is some bull****....
SacTownKid
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Yeah, I must say the only player that has brought it for us is Shareef. I thought this was the "big 3's" time?
ParniValjak
All-Star
I am one of the biggest Brad fans around but he is just not performing at the level we know he can. 6.2rpg is a REALLY poor return. Not only that his current FG percentage is so NOT Brad like. His shot is off. His rebounding is off. He is just off.
Pedja is not much better. He has always been a pee poor rebounder. Its the same old story again. He had 6 rebounds at half time, 7 at 3 quarter time and none in the 4th quarter. Is it really too much to ask to have some sort of consistency in his play from quarter to quarter. I understand that the game ebs and flows but if you can't be consistent in scoring the points, there is no reason why you can't be consistent on the glass. Its more about the effort than anything else.
Pedja is not much better. He has always been a pee poor rebounder. Its the same old story again. He had 6 rebounds at half time, 7 at 3 quarter time and none in the 4th quarter. Is it really too much to ask to have some sort of consistency in his play from quarter to quarter. I understand that the game ebs and flows but if you can't be consistent in scoring the points, there is no reason why you can't be consistent on the glass. Its more about the effort than anything else.
hoops4kings
Bench
Unfortunately, Brad's defense has gone from not very good to laughable. Anyone can school him it looks like, and he hardly ever positions himself for a charge (ala Vlade). Since he's as slow as molasses, he needs to at least take some charges because he ain't stopping or blocking anyone inside.
I know he takes them from time to time, but he's gotta do something because his defense looks awful, and when his offense isn't going (or when he becomes invisible) he's pretty worthless out there.
I know he takes them from time to time, but he's gotta do something because his defense looks awful, and when his offense isn't going (or when he becomes invisible) he's pretty worthless out there.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
piksi said:
He didn't do too shabby though. 15 pts, 50% shooting, 7 boards (should be higher), and 7 assists.
But I was talking about the whole season. This guy is single handedly saving our FG% from setting record lows.
piksi
Hall of Famer
SacTownKid said:
I am OK with what he shows. Tonight he did not defend, he had some stupid turnovers and he missed FTs. I think that he will fit great if he stays healthy. Sometimes numbers are deceiving. he is the most consistant Kings so far this season. On the other hand we are 1-4
bozzwell
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SacTownKid said:
Please go away with Shareef and all that. Shareef is very good at being exceptional player on bad teams we know that - you don't have to stick it up our colective noses.
If you can't see what is wrong here and you have to have your petty little victories about Shareef being all that, let me tell you this: That one legged dude in Phily could do all that on a busted knee and make others better at the same time.
There you go, I said it. CWebb, I appologise for ever doubting you.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
piksi said:
Then again, a big reason we we were still in some of those games was because of Shareef and/or Bonzi Wells.
bozzwell said:
Please make a note that we didn't trade Cwebb for SAR. So, stop making it sounds like acquiring SAR is the reason we traded CWebb. The GM traded Cwebb for future flexibility. Cwebb's busted up knees will not allow him to perform at high level much longer but his salary is going up 15-18 millions range. Can you see the difference between 15-18 millions and 5.5 millions (SAR's current salary)? Once Geoff Petrie is able to package KT along with one of our current big three in a trade, the Kings will be able to move up again. I see the team as half way through a rebuilding process.
love_them_kings
Starter
yanon said:
yeah, we traded Cwebb for Kenny, Corliss, and Brian. Is that any better?
Webb's salary is like, what, a year or two away from being an asset? Final year of a big salary is typically easy to trade for teams who are just looking to clear up salary cap. Kenny's contract is longer (though smaller) than Webb's and I'm still waiting to see this "flexibility"
captain bill
All-Star
Exactly. Trading Webber was stupid. I was shocked then, and then proceeded to buy in to the "he's gonna degrade" argument, just because I needed to believe that, and then Kenny played decent. And now the truth is right there. This team is at the end of the line. No one plays with any heart, and all the talent we have doesn't matter because no one seems to care about the game at all. After tonight's game, I have to say I am 1000 times more proud of the Niners right now than the Kings. At least they try every single play, no matter how much they get burned. Sac is just playing asleep, no passion, no hussle, and absolutely zero effort in the fourth quarter. Something needs to change, now.
slugking50
All-Star
Trading Webb had everything to do with finances and the future not the present.
Coach T said something interesting(imagine that!). He thought that maybe Brad was still hampered by his broken leg rom last year. Thats something to think about.
Coach T said something interesting(imagine that!). He thought that maybe Brad was still hampered by his broken leg rom last year. Thats something to think about.
It seems to me that brad look uncomforable out there, brad rarely telegraphs passes, but since he so uncomforatable with the new players u know exactly where he is gonna pass, it all gonna wear off...i honestly think they just need time. We've seen flashes of how they can play, and it looks great! like its been said before, give it time..
One problem Brad Miller has is that he is not playing his position. When playing offense you can see him always near the 3pnt line. This is very wrong. He is playing Well's position, SG and Bonzi is playing C. This is not right. Adelman must fix this.
Other problem is that he is playing too soft. He must play aggresively and better his deffense.
He has a good jumper but when he miss, it's a secure rebount to de opponent.
ADELMAN OUT!!!! MALOOF OUT!!! PETRIE OUT!!!
Other problem is that he is playing too soft. He must play aggresively and better his deffense.
He has a good jumper but when he miss, it's a secure rebount to de opponent.
ADELMAN OUT!!!! MALOOF OUT!!! PETRIE OUT!!!
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thesanityannex
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Please nominate Sum182 for all King's Basketball Operations, the sure fire way to the lottery.Sum182 said:
Kev.in
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Brad needs someone with more of a presence playing next to him. Abdur-Rahim is a good player, but not the ideal fit. Vlade, Jermaine O'Neal, Elton Brand or Chris Webber. Specifically when he played with Vlade and Jermaine, Brad played his best ball. Abdur-Rahim doesn't have the size, the offensive presence of Vlade or the defensive presence of Jermaine. That doesn't mean Brad is going to rebound like this for the rest of the season. He can definitely pick it up, but it'd be a lot easier on him if he didn't have to be the biggest guy on the floor for us all the time.
captain bill
All-Star
We need to get a better PF who can really do everything- play D, dominate on offense, do all the dirty work. Put SAR at SF, Bonzi or Peja at SG. I can only see the flexibility of the Webber trade at this point meaning that we have an array of players and contracts to offer for that superstar player- of course, the only one now being KG. The true beasts of the NBA play at PF- Duncan, Garnett, Jermaine ONeal, Webber, Nowitzksi, Jameson, Chandler, Sheed. Yao and Shaq are really the only multidimensional big times centers- guys like Ben Wallace, Marcus Camby, Z are a lot more of role players and not play makers.
That doesn't mean that we can just excuse deficiencies at center, but I think it should be a much higher priority to have a great PF than a great Center- just ask, would you rather have KG/Duncan or Yao/Shaq? I think most of us, especially for this team, would rather see Garnett play in Sac.
Since we traded away our great PF, the only way I can see Petrie redeem himself is by trading our spare parts, contract pieces and "flexibility" from Webber, and one or two of our starters to get Garnett. Otherwise, we will absolutely be worse off than we would have been.
Okay- so here's my point. Miller is absolutely not the problem. All his shortfalls are because the team is not using him properly. Add a guy like KG, and we can initiate our offense from our point center and point power forward, let Peja and Bibby (or whoever's left) do what they do and just score. I can especially see this working if we trade Bibby- let the offense be initiated by Brad and Kevin, make Hart the roleplaying D player who hussles, scores when needed and is just energy for us. SAR and Bonzi can stick around at SF and SG- all they have to do is score and hustle, not carry the team. So, in other words, we need to trade Bibby and Peja for Garnett to turn this team into an elite team that maximizes all our players' skills.
That doesn't mean that we can just excuse deficiencies at center, but I think it should be a much higher priority to have a great PF than a great Center- just ask, would you rather have KG/Duncan or Yao/Shaq? I think most of us, especially for this team, would rather see Garnett play in Sac.
Since we traded away our great PF, the only way I can see Petrie redeem himself is by trading our spare parts, contract pieces and "flexibility" from Webber, and one or two of our starters to get Garnett. Otherwise, we will absolutely be worse off than we would have been.
Okay- so here's my point. Miller is absolutely not the problem. All his shortfalls are because the team is not using him properly. Add a guy like KG, and we can initiate our offense from our point center and point power forward, let Peja and Bibby (or whoever's left) do what they do and just score. I can especially see this working if we trade Bibby- let the offense be initiated by Brad and Kevin, make Hart the roleplaying D player who hussles, scores when needed and is just energy for us. SAR and Bonzi can stick around at SF and SG- all they have to do is score and hustle, not carry the team. So, in other words, we need to trade Bibby and Peja for Garnett to turn this team into an elite team that maximizes all our players' skills.
The "problems" of the team are IMHO pretty much based in how little time they've actually had to get to know each other's strengths and weaknesses.
What I saw last night renewed my hope that with more practice, they'll get more comfortable with each other and have more trust in their own game.
Brad Miller did an excellent job last night. Along with Peja, they - as veterans - set the tone.
^^That's just silly.
What I saw last night renewed my hope that with more practice, they'll get more comfortable with each other and have more trust in their own game.
Brad Miller did an excellent job last night. Along with Peja, they - as veterans - set the tone.
Sum182 said:
^^That's just silly.
I would rather have Shaq in his prime. He was a beast and an one-man wrecking machine. Put an elite guard and some role players around him, the Kings would be contending for the title every year and possibily win a few.
Well, since that didn't happened, the ideal superstar for this current team is KG. Someone on the Kings need to give KG a call. Let him know that we wanted him bad and he would be perfect fit for this system. Someone need to paint him a picture of leading the Kings to the NBA final.
Well, since that didn't happened, the ideal superstar for this current team is KG. Someone on the Kings need to give KG a call. Let him know that we wanted him bad and he would be perfect fit for this system. Someone need to paint him a picture of leading the Kings to the NBA final.
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That is just wishful thinking. Even when KG is on the trading block, the Wolves will demeand a better package than Bibby and Peja in return. Most likely they will ask for something like Bibby and Miller (because they already have Wally), a step down will be Peja and Miller, Peja and Bibby will be the least offer they are willing to take. I just hope that they don't ask for Miller, SAR, plus salary fillers. If they ask for this last combo, the Kings frontline will be very depleted.
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