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AriesMar27
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when he is 32, injured and is getting 10 million with 3 years remaining on his contract he wont look all that hot....
Bonzi Wells
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Padrino
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AriesMar27 said:
32 is hardly old in the nba, unless your chris webber or allan houston w/ major knee surgery. when he's 35 and injured, then i'll give creedence to your argument. by then, however, he will have done the kings proud, i'm sure you don't always make the trade for the younger guy...especially when the younger guy is unproven and the older guy is playing and producing at an incredibly high level. and you certainly do not trade a guy for fear of injury when he has no history of major injury.
Bad Boy Bo
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I'm dedicating the off-season to start a re-sign Bonzi campaign.
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AriesMar27
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no but he will be 30 when next season begins.... 2 years into this huge contract that hes working on he'll be 32 with 3 years remaining....
i love what he's doing for us in the playoffs but im not going to want him in 2 or 3 years....
i love what he's doing for us in the playoffs but im not going to want him in 2 or 3 years....
ImaKingsFan
Bench
Unreal..do we really have to have talk of trading Bonzi in this thread which is supposed to be HONORING him for the way he has been playing?
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Padrino
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AriesMar27 said:
by the end of his contract, he will be about 35, and out of his prime. that's fine. he can still be effective as a banger/hustler until he's 35, easily. look at finley or van exel. unlike bonzi, they're shooters, but they still are effective in their older age as utility players off the bench. bonzi can serve that purpose towards the end of a contract while martin and/or francisco reach the top levels of their respective games.
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Padrino said:
ditto... i'll go to the personnel section if i have to rant.....
Kingsroots
G-League
You know, I don't think at this point the Maloofs have any other option but to re-sign Bonzi. Yes he is playing probably beyond his normal skill level in hopes to get that big contract, but what I also see is some really great chemistry between him, Bibby, Artest, and the rest of the team. I also see a little fear in other teams sg and sf when they play us now. Bonzi and Artest create matchup nightmares on both ends of the floor... If the Kings get past the Spurs, which is still a major hurdle, there is no question as to whether they should resign him or not. Just my five cents. (calculating inflation)
GoGoGadget
All-Star
Bonzi Wells is golden.
If they let him join the list of players who've just walked away, I may literally lay down in the street and cry.
If they let him join the list of players who've just walked away, I may literally lay down in the street and cry.
Kev.in
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AriesMar27 said:
Bonzi is a better power forward than Nene ever will be.
If Martin and Garcia are better than Bonzi in 3-4 years, then that'll handle itself and the Kings will be able to trade him. This is a guy that's been traded 3 times since he was drafted. Even if he's making big money, he's got some value. It's not like we're talking about a Jerome James type of sitation here.
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Kev.in said:
though i agreed to not talk about it.... say we do trade him after 3 or 4 years... what kinda of webbertradesque garbage will we pick up in return? hell it might be jerome james... his contract will have 1 less year on it than bonzi's....
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
AriesMar27 said:
Oh good lord. That's ridiculous. Under your argument, we should never have signed Vlade Divac or Doug Christie either. 30 ain't dead. I like young. I like winning more. You get a winner. You wrap him up.
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Bricklayer said:
understandable... but if we had the chance at it id rather go with a young big than an old small.... bonzi is a hustla and is balling out of his mind right now, but damn....
AriesMar27 said:
I think it hinges on the outcome of the series. If we beat the Spurs, there is no real logic behind breaking up the team that took out the champs as an 8 seed. However, should we fall, you could make the case. Kevin Martin is having a great series as well. Everyone are saying the right things right now, but a year down the road, when Martin is looking to be extended, who knows?
GoGoGadget
All-Star
AriesMar27 said:
Playing the "what if" game is a slippery slope.
What if we sign & trade Bonzi for Nene and he has a career ending injury after playing two games?
What if we take a gamble on a young big who ends up a bust?
What if decrepit Arco Arena crumbles to the ground and smushes all but Jason Hart and Sergei Monia?
What if... ?
All you can do is play the highest odds at a given moment. Right now the highest odds are on keeping the tough little 2 guard that is playing a pivotal role in our lowly 8th seed systematically dismantling the defending champs.
SacKings384
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There is NO question that you re-sign Bonzi Wells. The ONLY argument you could have is the fact that this is his contract year. But guys have come into Sacramento and been solid citzens even though they had baggage when they arrived. Has Bonzi matured? I think so... What will keep Bonzi and Ron happy? Keeping Rick Adelman that's what... Either way, the Kings NEED to re-sign him. He was the MVP of the team for the first part of the season. And is helping TREMENDOUSLY with the rebounding problem. No questions here, Bonzi played FANTASTIC!
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GoGoGadget said:
that goes both ways, lol....
what if bonzi injures himself in the offseason like amare did?
if we make it to the second round or beyond i couldnt complain unless some team gets nene and he plays well....
but yeah... what if?
SacKings384
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Nene? What is everyones obsession with Nene? He's injury prone, coming off of KNEE surgery! That is one injury that just puts up CAUTION as soon as you look at it. A guy that young, and has already missed a full season +? Not only that, but he is a big man that relies on quickness... That's just a bad combination.
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^^^so you wouldnt take him or amare?
SacTownKid
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Bricklayer said:
Totally, I just think Bonzi finally is on a team where he is going to get 38 minutes, and is on a team where he is the best rebounder. 30 ain't old. At 35 he is a nice expiring anyway.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Venom said:
Kevin's having a good series, and a nice establishing series for a playoff rook. 14pts 5rebs 40% shooting, and the one big breakout game.
But its not ever close to the same level. What Bonzi is doing -- its star level stuff. I have absolutely no hesitation saying that Bonzi Wells has been better than Tim Duncan or Ron Artest this series. He is dominating the world champs, and indeed the whole series. Does not mean he is in fact a superstar. Does mean he is displaying here championship mettle, and doing it in the most inspiring of all possible fashions.
You deal with Kevin's extension when it comes around. On this playoff series alone Bonzi has made himself a very valuable commodity -- even if we are stupid enough to let him go, some other team would scoop him up in a nanasecond precisely as a playoff difference maker. So if Kevin were to lay down the threat, start me or lose me, you will have the option of complying by moving Wells. Or maybe even after a couple of years of adulation from the Arco faithful, Bonzi might be willing to move to the bench to become a bigger Bobby. Regardless, you don't give up players capable of not only playing at this level, but of inspiring.
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SacKings384
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Bricklayer said:
I don't see Kevin being that type of guy. Kevin is signed until the end of the 2009 season. I don't think the Kings should or shouldn't re-sign Bonzi based on re-signing Kevin Martin. Once again, how can you question a re-sign unless you think he's ONLY playing well and hard since it's his contract year? (this is not directed at you Brick) He is a rebounding machine, a mismatch, and he has some decent defense. And he brings TOUGHNESS... What more do you want?
KingKong
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quick dog said:Look at Parker's face at the bottom of the Bonzi Slam Photo. That is the same expression Parker would have if he had just had "a close encounter of the third kind" with an 8-foot green alien. Bonzi Wells is clearly the greatest human being on the planet.
Thanks QD, you really owe me a coffee now.
