Big (Man) Love, 2022-23 season

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/7 Big Man update:

Zion Williamson: 26/7/7/2/1 versus Pacers
DeAndre Ayton: 14/7/0/1/1 versus 76ers
Joel Embiid: 33/10/5/0/1 versus Suns
John Collins: 14/2/0/0/1 versus Bucks
Edris Adebayo: 16/5/3/1/1 versus Trail Blazers
Nikola Vucevic: 15/13/4/0/2 versus Raptors
Karl-Anthony Towns: 25/13/7/2/1 versus Knicks
Nikola Jokic: 26/10/2/3/4 versus Spurs
Anthony Davis: 29/4/2/1/1 versus Jazz
Domatas Sabonis: 19/14/6/0/0 versus Warriors


Honorable Mention
Alperen Sengun: 20/10/4/2/1 versus Magic
(BMOtN) Myles Turner: 37/12/1/0/3 versus Pelicans
Jarrett Allen: 10/20/3/2/2 versus Clippers

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/9 Big Man update:

Nikola Jokic: 24/4/6/2/1 versus Pacers
John Collins: 15/4/3/0/0 versus Jazz
Zion Williamson: 19/5/1/0/0 versus Bulls
Nikola Vucevic: 18/7/2/0/0 versus Pelicans
DeAndre Ayton: 9/6/2/0/0 versus Timberwolves
Rudy Gobert: 25/11/0/0/3 versus Suns
Karl-Anthony Towns: 11/8/4/0/1 versus Suns
Anthony Davis: 21/9/3/0/1 versus Clippers
Jarrett Allen: 20/7/1/0/1 versus Kings
Domatas Sabonis: 21/5/6/3/0 versus Cavaliers


Honorable Mention
Julius Randle: 24/11/3/0/0 versus Nets
Jonas Valanciunas: 21/13/3/1/0 versus Bulls
(BMOtN) Brook Lopez: 24/13/1/1/5 versus Thunder

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/10 Big Man update:

Joel Embiid: 26/13/2/0/1 [7 to] versus Hawks
John Collins: 11/4/2/1/0 versus 76ers
Bam Adebayo: 18/14/4/2/0 versus Hornets
Zion Williamson: 29/6/3/1/0 versus Trail Blazers


Honorable Mention
(BMOtN) Clint Capela: 18/20/0/0/0 versus 76ers

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/11 Big Man update:

Nikola Jokic: 29/8/3/0/0 versus Celtics
DeAndre Ayton: 14/5/1/2/1 versus Magic
Rudy Gobert: 15/6/1/1/0 versus Grizzlies
Karl-Anthony Towns: 13/10//0/0 versus Grizzlies
(BMOtN) Domatas Sabonis: 21/10/0/1/0 versus lakers
Anthony Davis: 24/14/3/2/3 versus Kings


Honorable Mention
Wendell Carter, Jr.: 20/10/5/0/1 versus Suns
Bol Bol: 13/15/1/0/0 versus Suns
Jakob Poeltl: 15/10/3/0/4 versus Bucks
Evan Mobley: 20/12/4/0/2 versus Warriors
Draymond Green: 2/10/13/1/0 versus Cavaliers

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/12 Big Man update:

John Collins: 6/6/0/0/1 versus 76ers
(BMOtN) Joel Embiid: 42/10/6/2/2 versus Hawks
Bam Adebayo: 24/15/4/1/1 versus Hornets
Zion Williamson: 26/4/6/1/0 versus Rockets

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/13 Big Man update:

Rudy Gobert: 15/13/1/1/2 versus Cavaliers
Karl-Anthony Towns: 29/13/3/1/1 versus Cavaliers
(BMOtN) Joel Embiid: 59/11/8/1/7 versus Jazz
Nikola Jokic: 8/6/14/3/0 versus Bulls
Nikola Vucevic: 9/6/0/0/0 versus Nuggets
Domatas Sabonis: 26/22/8/0/0 versus Warriors
Anthony Davis: 37/18/2/0/0 versus Nets


Honorable Mention
Julius Randle: 25/10/3/0/0 versus Thunder


I had Sabonis as a foregone conclusion, but then I saw what Embiid got into; good lawd!

 

[hrdboild]

11/13 Big Man update:

Rudy Gobert: 15/13/1/1/2 versus Cavaliers
Karl-Anthony Towns: 29/13/3/1/1 versus Cavaliers
(BMOtN) Joel Embiid: 59/11/8/1/7 versus Jazz
Nikola Jokic: 8/6/14/3/0 versus Bulls
Nikola Vucevic: 9/6/0/0/0 versus Nuggets
Domatas Sabonis: 26/22/8/0/0 versus Warriors
Anthony Davis: 37/18/2/0/0 versus Nets


Honorable Mention
Julius Randle: 25/10/3/0/0 versus Thunder


I had Sabonis as a foregone conclusion, but then I saw what Embiid got into; good lawd!

That's a crazy stat line. I hope Embiid stays healthy and leads his team into the Finals eventually. He's incredible.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/14 Big Man update:

DeAndre Ayton: 16/12/2/1/0 versus Heat
(BMOtN) Bam Adebayo: 30/10/1/1/0 versus Suns
John Collins: 16/9/0/1/1 versus Bucks


Honorable Mention
Clint Capela: 19/10/2/0/2 versus Bucks

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/15 Big Man update:

Domantas Sabonis: 17/7/7/1/1 versus Nets


Honorable Mention
(BMOtN) Jakob Poeltl: 31/14/5/0/1 versus Trail Blazers


I don't normally give out the award when there are only two worthy statlines, but Poeltl might not have another 30+/10+/5 game in his career, so...

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/16 Big Man update:

Rudy Gobert: 16/8/1/2/1 versus Magic
Karl-Anthony Towns: 30/5/5/1/0 versus Magic
John Collins: 12/3/0/0/3 versus Celtics
Nikola Vucevic: 14/10/0/1/0 versus Pelicans
DeAndre Ayton: 14/7/2/0/0 versus Warriors


Honorable Mention
Myles Turner: 20/10/3/1/3 versus Hornets
Bol Bol: 26/12/1/1/3 versus Timberwolves
(BMOtN) Julius Randle: 34/11/4/4/0 versus Nuggets

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/17 Big Man update:

Domantas Sabonis: 16/8/1/0/0 versus Spurs

No award.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/18 Big Man update:

Jarrett Allen: 20/12/2/0/4 versus Hornets
(BMOtN) Joel Embiid: 32/11/8/1/3 versus Bucks
Nikola Vucevic: 14/16/7/1/3 versus Magic
DeAndre Ayton: 17/10/8/0/3 versus Jazz
Anthony Davis: 38/16/2/1/4 versus Pistons


Honorable Mention
Bobby Portis: 21/11/3/1/0 versus 76ers
Jaren Jackson, Jr.: 25/12/0/2/3 versus Thunder

Giving it to Embiid by virtue of quality of opposition.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/19 Big Man update:

John Collins: 9/11/4/1/0 versus Raptors
Rudy Gobert: 8/13/1/1/0 versus 76ers
Karl-Anthony Towns: 12/8/3/1/0 versus 76ers
Joel Embiid: 32/9/6/3/0 [6 to] versus Timberwolves


Honorable Mention
Bol Bol: 22/11/0/0/2 versus Pacers
(BMOtN) Myles Turner: 20/11/0/1/1 versus Magic

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/20 Big Man update:

DeAndre Ayton: 13/11/4/1/0 versus Knicks
Domantas Sabonis: 15/13/7/1/0 versus Pistons
Edris Adebayo: 21/6/3/0/1 versus Cavaliers
Jarrett Allen: 8/6/2/0/0 versus Heat
(BMOtN) Anthony Davis: 30/18/2/3/1 versus Spurs

Davis is probably not getting back in the game, so I'm calling it.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/21 Big Man update:

John Collins: 16/1/2/2/1 versus Cavaliers
Jarrett Allen: 8/11/1/2/1 versus Hawks
Nikola Vucevic: 12/13/5/0/0 versus Celtics
Bam Adebayo: 17/14/5/1/2 versus Timberwolves
Rudy Gobert: 4/9/0/1/2 versus Heat
Karl-Anthony Towns: 25/8/9/1/1 versus Heat
Zion Williamson: 9/2/4/0/0 versus "Warriors"


Honorable Mention
(BMOtN) Julius Randle: 25/11/1/0/0 versus Thunder

I'll make it official tomorrow morning, but it's looking like it's gonna be Randle.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/22 Big Man update:

Domantas Sabonis: 9/13/8/0/0 versus Grizzlies
Nikola Jokic: 31/9/10/1/1 versus Pistons
Anthony Davis: 37/21/2/5/5 versus Suns
DeAndre Ayton: 14/15/2/1/0 versus lakers

The two most impressive stat lines came in losses. No award, unless needed for a tiebreaker.

 

[chief bromden]

11/21 Big Man update:

Domantas Sabonis: 9/13/8/0/0 versus Grizzlies
Nikola Jokic: 31/9/10/1/1 versus Pistons
Anthony Davis: 37/21/2/5/5 versus Suns
DeAndre Ayton: 14/15/2/1/0 versus lakers

The two most impressive stat lines came in losses. No award, unless needed for a tiebreaker.

I know you have your own rules for this stuff, and it's biased for my dislike of Randle's game, but to see Randle get the award for 25/11 and AD get nothing for his crazy steal/block fest on top of 37/21 makes me question the validity of this whole endeavor.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I know you have your own rules for this stuff, and it's biased for my dislike of Randle's game, but to see Randle get the award for 25/11 and AD get nothing for his crazy steal/block fest on top of 37/21 makes me question the validity of this whole endeavor.

I'm going to be honest with you: I don't like Randle's game, either. It just so happens that he did "enough" for the award on Monday night. That being said, as I look at his game logs, it appears as though the last few games have lifted his percentage of three-point attempts above my personal "Big Man" threshold, so I will likely be relegating him to "Tall Man," unless or until that percentage drops.

As far as Davis, it's unfortunate, but it bees like that sometimes. I went to bed before the game was over but, before I turned the TV off, I think he had already hit 30/15, or something close to that, and I said to myself, "Welp, it's a damned shame that he's not going to get it for a performance like that..."

No award, if your team loses. No exceptions. Well, let me amend that, slightly: if a guy put up, like, a 50/30 triple double with blocks, and his team somehow still lost, I think I'd feel compelled to give it to him, anyway.

 

[Telemachus]

I know you have your own rules for this stuff, and it's biased for my dislike of Randle's game, but to see Randle get the award for 25/11 and AD get nothing for his crazy steal/block fest on top of 37/21 makes me question the validity of this whole endeavor.

There is value in getting a win. Putting up big numbers in a loss lessons the value of the big numbers.

 

[hrdboild]

I'm going to be honest with you: I don't like Randle's game, either. It just so happens that he did "enough" for the award on Monday night. That being said, as I look at his game logs, it appears as though the last few games have lifted his percentage of three-point attempts above my personal "Big Man" threshold, so I will likely be relegating him to "Tall Man," unless or until that percentage drops.

As far as Davis, it's unfortunate, but it bees like that sometimes. I went to bed before the game was over but, before I turned the TV off, I think he had already hit 30/15, or something close to that, and I said to myself, "Welp, it's a damned shame that he's not going to get it for a performance like that..."

No award, if your team loses. No exceptions. Well, let me amend that, slightly: if a guy put up, like, a 50/30 triple double with blocks, and his team somehow still lost, I think I'd feel compelled to give it to him, anyway.

For some reason it amuses me that your rank of "Tall Man" is a demotion from "Big Man".

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I can't even take credit for that; I stole it from Bomani Jones. I don't think we use the same definitions, though: he's more of a "I'll know it when I see it" type, whereas I try to maintain something that I think resembles a consistent criteria.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/23 Big Man update:

Jarrett Allen: 24/13/2/1/0 versus Trail Blazers
Rudy Gobert: 21/16/2/0/0 versus Pacers
Karl-Anthony Towns: 23/11/8/2/2 versus Pacers
Domantas Sabonis: 15/13/7/1/0 versus Hawks
John Collins: 7/3/2/1/1 versus Kings
Edris Adebayo: 15/11/2/2/1 versus Wizards
Nikola Vucevic: 18/5/4/0/1 versus Bucks
(BMOtN) Nikola Jokic: 39/10/9/0/0 versus Thunder
Zion Williamson: 32/11/1/2/1 versus Spurs


Honorable Mention
Christian Wood: 26/12/2/0/0 versus Celtics
Jonas Valanciunas: 22/10/2/0/1 versus Spurs


I'll make it official tomorrow but, barring something historic in the second half of Clippers/Warriors, it's gonna be Jokic.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/25 Big Man update:

Rudy Gobert: 17/17/1/2/2 versus Hornets
Karl-Anthony Towns: 19/4/5/0/2 versus Hornets
Domantas Sabonis: 18/10/6/0/0 versus Celtics
(BMOtN) Bam Adebayo: 38/12/3/0/0 versus Wizards
John Collins: 8/5/1/2/2 versus Rockets
Zion Williamson: 14/5/4/1/0 versus Grizzlies
Jarrett Allen: 1/3/1/1/1 versus Bucks
Nikola Vucevic: 13/13/3/0/0 versus Thunder
Anthony Davis: 25/15/4/1/3 versus Spurs
DeAndre Ayton: 28/12/1/0/2 versus Pistons
Nikola Jokic: 19/13/6/2/1 versus Clippers

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/25 Big Man update:

(BMOtN) DeAndre Ayton: 29/20/3/1/2 versus Jazz


Honorable Mention
Alperen Sengun: 21/19/7/3/2 versus Thunder

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/27 Big Man update:

Rudy Gobert: 9/10/0/0/1 versus Warriors
Karl-Anthony Towns: 21/4/4/2/0 [6 to] versus Warriors
Bam Adebayo: 32/8/1/0/1 versus Hawks
John Collins: 23/14/2/0/1 versus Heat


Honorable Mention
(BMOtN) Ivica Zubac: 31/29/3/0/3 versus Pacers
Evan Mobley: 20/13/1/0/1 versus Pistons

1. This entire update is basically a formality. I saw Zubac's line in the second box score I looked at and said, "I don't need to see nothing else."
2. John Collins having his best game of the season on an afternoon where his team gave up a double-digit lead feels revelatory. Of what, I am not yet sure.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/28 Big Man update:

John Collins: 13/8/3/2/4 versus 76ers
(BMOtN) Joel Embiid: 30/8/7/2/2 versus Hawks
Rudy Gobert: 19/7/0/0/1 versus Wizards
Karl-Anthony Towns: 8/2/4/0/0 versus Wizards (injured 3rd quarter)
Pascal Siakam: 18/11/5/0/0 versus Cavaliers
Zion Williamson: 23/8/8/1/3 versus Thunder
Nikola Jokic: 32/12/8/0/0 versus Rockets
Nikola Vucevic: 16/9/2/1/0 versus Jazz
DeAndre Ayton: 17/12/1/0/0 versus Kings
Domantas Sabonis: 17/9/10/1/2 versus Suns
Anthony Davis: 25/13/6/0/4 versus Pacers

Embiid gets it over Jokic by virtue of quality of opponent.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/29 Big Man update:

Rassum-frackum TNT. Turner's war against big men continues unabated.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

11/30 Big Man update:

Joel Embiid: 19/6/6/3/0 versus Cavaliers
John Collins: 6/7/0/2/1 versus Magic
Bam Adebayo: 23/6/5/2/0 versus Celtics
Rudy Gobert: 9/1/0/1/1 versus Grizzlies
Pascal Siakam: 23/6/4/2/2 versus Pelicans
(BMOtN) Zion Williamson: 33/10/5/4/2 versus Raptors
Nikola Jokic: 17/9/12/1/1 versus Rockets
Nikola Vucevic: 17/8/1/2/1 versus Suns
DeAndre Ayton: 30/14/3/0/2 versus Bulls
Domantas Sabonis: 11/10/7/1/0 versus Pacers
Anthony Davis: 27/12/1/1/3 versus Trail Blazers


Honorable Mention
Clint Capela: 20/12/1/1/0 versus Magic
Mitchell Robinson: 15/20/1/0/1 versus Bucks


Collins seems determined to play himself off the nightly listing.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

12/1 Big Man update:

:: sighs ::

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Slightly less late End of Month update:



Big Man of the Month for November is Joel Embiid. Embiid won with four awards.



Big Man of the Month, season-to-date:

October: Pascal Siakam
November: Joel Embiid




Due to earning two Big Man of the Night awards as an Honorable Mention in November, the following player(s) will receive probationary addition to the nightly Top Tier Big Man listing:

Clint Capela (ATL)
Myles Turner (IND)