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Petrie wants to cover all his bases in draft



By Martin McNeal -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PDT Saturday, June 25, 2005


Geoff Petrie believes in information-gathering.
So armed with one choice (No. 23 overall, the Michael Jordan pick, Petrie calls it), the Kings' president of basketball operations has brought in or seen in private workouts more than 40 players in preparation for Tuesday's draft. Petrie would like to find a hidden gem capable of an immediate impact. If he can't, he hopes to draft someone who can grow into an impact player.

"My thought is to leave no stone unturned," Petrie said. "We've brought in a lot of players, and where we're picking, you want to find somebody who can play."


Petrie has said the Kings need to upgrade their defense, athleticism and backcourt playmaking ability. However, he knows that's difficult with a low first-round choice.

Teams picking 10 to 15 places higher than the Kings speak of merely trying to find the best player available rather than looking to fill a specific need. And many of those teams are able to draw far more players for private workouts than the Kings.

"We tried to get all the players we thought would be in the top 30 to 40 players taken, from No. 1 on down," Petrie said. "But there are another 15 players or so we would have loved to get in starting with (7-footer Andrew) Bogut, but that just was not going to happen."

Bogut, the center from the University of Utah and Australia, is expected to be taken first overall by the Milwaukee Bucks.

Agents and front-office types agree that a setting where coaching staffs can interact with the players is valuable. But there are rules, written and unwritten, that influence just how much education can occur.

"The workouts are limited to four players at a time, and there only can be one-on-one or two-on-two situations," Petrie said. "So there are things you can't learn, because you don't see the five-on-five. We do a lot of shooting drills as well as a lot of dribbling, passing and cutting drills."

Agent Aaron Goodwin had six players work out for the Kings, including athletic 5-foot-9 guard Nate Robinson from Washington and perhaps the draft's best shooter, 6-1 Salim Stoudamire from Arizona. Goodwin said he likes his players to hold individual workouts.

"Teams not only can see you play, but they can see some intangibles," Goodwin said. "You can see a player as a person, firsthand. You can talk to him, take him out to dinner if you want to. How can that be a bad thing?"

Mark Bartelstein and Goodwin have become two of the most popular and successful agents. Bartelstein said he wants his players not only to participate in individual workouts but compete. One of the more recent trends with potential draftees is agents preventing their clients from competing against other players. They would rather have their clients participate only in one-on-none drills.

"I believe in the guys we represent," Bartelstein said, "and to me, it sends a terrible message if you don't want your guys to compete against others."

Bartelstein represents 6-9 New Mexico small forward Danny Granger, who has risen from perhaps a low first-round or second-round choice at the start of last season to maybe a high lottery choice. Granger and 6-8 Syracuse forward Hakim Warrick went one-on-one a few weeks ago, and the competition and intensity left many observers impressed.

"They went to war," Bartelstein said, "and I believe both players did themselves proud."

Kings prospects

Some of the players the Kings either have had in town for workouts or seen in combined private workouts with other teams:
Alex Acker - Pepperdine, SG, 6-foot-5, 190 lbs.
Will Bynum - Georgia Tech, PG, 6-0, 200
Mike Bell - Florida Atlantic, PF, 6-9, 210
Marquin Chandler - San Jose State, SF, 6-7, 220
Will Conroy - Washington, PG, 6-2, 190
John Cox - South Florida, G, 6-5, 210
Sharrod Ford - Clemson, PF, 6-9, 225
Francisco Garcia - Louisville, SG, 6-7 190
Ryan Gomes - Providence, PF, 6-7, 240
Danny Granger - New Mexico, SF, 6-9, 225
Quemont Greer - DePaul, SF/PF, 6-7, 245
Luther Head - Illinois, PG/SG, 6-3, 185
Julius Hodge - N.C. State, SG, 6-7, 205
Mindaugas Katelynas - Tenn.-Chattanooga, PF, 6-9, 230
Keith Langford - Kansas, SG, 6-4, 215
David Lee - Florida, PF, 6-9, 245
Ed McCants - Wis.-Milwaukee, G, 6-2, 185
CJ Miles - Skyline HS (Dallas), SG, 6-6, 207
Doron Perkins - Santa Clara, PG, 6-2, 200
Jameel Pugh - Sacramento State, SG, 6-4, 225
Filberto Rivera - UTEP, PG, 6-2, 175
Nate Robinson - Washington, PG, 5-9, 185
Salim Stoudamire - Arizona, PG/SG, 6-1, 190
Omar Thomas - UTEP, SG, 6-3, 205
Dijon Thompson - UCLA, SF, 6-7, 209
Hakim Warrick - Syracuse, SF/PF, 6-8, 215
Louis Williams - Gwinnett (Ga.) HS, SG, 6-1, 175
 
Interesting that a Digou, Simien and Blatche aren't on that list. But then again that list may be incomplete and who's to say that GP won't take someone not on the list. If GP can swing a deal to get Bogut then he may go down as the greatest GM ever depending on who the Kings would have to sacrafice.
 
Interesting that the overwhelming majority of those prospects are guards! Are there not enough good big men in the draft? Unless GP is planning on getting his SG through the draft and his big man through trade or free agency...
 
Somehow, from all of this, I gather that Petrie is going to pick another head scratcher, but we'll turn out fine in the end.
 
Here is a player I hope the Kings draft. He pretty much fills our needs plus he surprised everyone by not pulling out. Someone gave him a promise to draft. Since Petrie is always tight lipped about everything he does maybe we are the ones that made the promise.
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1020
Mile Ilic



It was somewhat surprising to see Ilic on the early entry list, and even more surprising to see him not pull his name out of the draft on the deadline on June 21st. We didn’t take him too seriously when he put his name in initially and decided to leave him off the Centers article a few weeks ago entirely. Ilic staying in forced us to scramble a bit to get footage, but we lucked out a bit and two tapes of him from this past season fell right into our lap. Even though this is an article about European forwards, we decided to squeeze Mile Ilic in because of the fact that people need to know a little bit more about this little known 7 foot prospect from Serbia & Montenegro who is being talked up as a potential first round draft pick in an extremely deep draft.

For starters, Ilic has outstanding size at at least 7 feet tall, sitting on a pretty nice frame, with an excellent wingspan to boot. Like most European players his age, he is a skinny player, but his overall build leads you to believe that he will fill out once he comes over and starts hitting an NBA weight room. In terms of size, he might remind you of Nenad Krstic a little bit, but that’s where the comparisons between the two end, as Ilic is a little more gifted physically but not nearly as far along skill wise compared with Krstic at the same age. The biggest thing he brings to table has to be his athletic ability for a player his size. Ilic runs the floor fluidly and is usually one of the first players down the court in transition as he has good speed in the open floor. Even more impressive is the quickness in which he gets off the ground, showing a nice vertical leap, which gives him a lot of potential in the shot-blocking department when you take his size and length into consideration, not to mention the fact that he appears to have pretty decent timing.

Ilic is a fairly aggressive player that plays the game with purpose and understands his role on both sides of the floor. He moves well off the ball and will ask for the ball in positions he feels comfortable creating offense from. He appears to have an effective, although very ugly, jump shot which he can use effectively to score from 15-18 feet out, although not consistently quite yet. Inside the post, his go to move appears to be a baby hook shot that he can get off as long as he isn’t being challenged physically too much. That appears to be the extent of his game right now, as he’s still a pretty raw player that is also considered a late bloomer compared with other players in this draft.

In terms of weaknesses, once again we are talking about a player that is yet to fill out completely and visibly lacks strength on both ends of the floor. He has very little back to the basket game right now as his footwork is below average and he just doesn’t have the strength to establish and hold a spot in the paint. This lack of strength hurts him in the rebounding department as well, a problem that is only compounded by the fact that he doesn’t box out that well and doesn’t seem to have the best hands in the world either. His size, length and athletic ability make up for things here, as does the fact that he puts in a good amount of effort here.

Defensively, he gets backed down by stronger players than him, although he does a decent job trying to fight back. As with most raw seven footers, foul trouble is an issue for him at this point. Too often he’ll bit on pump fakes or leave his feet early to come up with a blocked shot. If he can improve his footwork on the defensive end and learn to use his lateral quickness better, he has some potential as a shot blocking threat. His feel for the game is just average, though, and he still needs to do a better job of maintaining a consistent intensity level for every minute he is on the floor. At times he will play with a lot of intensity and make his presence felt in many different ways, while in others he’ll lose his focus for a period of time and look completely out of it.

To his credit, Ilic got better and better as the season progressed and finished off very strong with a 24 point, 10 rebound game in the semi-finals of the Serbian playoffs. In the Adriatic league, he scored in double digits in 10 of his last 11 games, overcoming a very slow start which saw him reach double digits only once in his first 15 games.

All in all, considering his size and athletic ability and the history of the NBA draft, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Ilic get drafted somewhere between 25-35 or so. He could make at least make a very solid backup for someone down the road, and that alone might warrant a pick. He reminds of a slightly more athletic Rasho Nesterovic. There will probably be more talented players on the board where he is picked, as he’s not the most skilled player in the world, but his physical attributes and the fact that he’s still far from reaching his full potential could make a team decide to bite on him somewhere in that area. We couldn’t get a clear cut answer regarding whether or not Mile Ilic will make it over to the States next year or not, but we did find out that his buyout is yet to be finalized. His agent Marc Cornstein claims to have an excellent working relationship with his team, KK Reflex, so according to him that should not be a major concern.
 
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Really a long player, at 7'1 Mile Ilic enjoys enough athleticism to be considered a very interesting prospect. He shows decent mobility, being able to run the court pretty well as a trailer, and a nice vertical leap. Already quite a good shot blocker, his leaping ability and long wingspan gives him the potential to become a great one. He also shines as an offensive rebounder, getting many rebounds with those physical gifts and his eagerness looking for them.

Besides scoring some easy baskets off of put-backs and offensive rebounds in general, Ilic shows an incipient mid-range jumper that, if properly worked on, could help him a lot to raise his production. He also has some game with his back to the basket, especially scoring off turnaround jumpers or a semi-hook shot. Although not having great handles, he can put the ball on the floor to try the penetration. His first step isn't anything more than average, but his long strides do the rest. He's not a bad passer, particulary facing the basket.

More than anything, Ilic shows potential, great potential to become a nice inside presence on both ends of the court. He has been playing significant minutes with Reflex's first team from not long ago, and he has already given signs of his great possibilities as a player.

 
Ilic sounds like a gamble who's not ready yet. Not sure that's what we are looking for with our only pick in the draft. Maybe if we had a second rounder.
 
Bricklayer said:
Ilic sounds like a gamble who's not ready yet. Not sure that's what we are looking for with our only pick in the draft. Maybe if we had a second rounder.

They are all a gamble at the 23 rd pick. Why not gamble on a 7 footer.
 
When I read a day or two ago on draftexpress that Ilic (or his agent) thinks he could get taken in the 1st round, I immediately thought of the Kings. He could be worth it. Sure, he's not ready to play now, but if he is in a year or two then you end up very happy you took him.
 
AleksandarN said:
They are all a gamble at the 23 rd pick. Why not gamble on a 7 footer.

There are gambles, and then there are guys who sound very raw and have never played at a level that lets you get any sort of real read on them.
 
Nice too see Garcia, Hodge and Warrick on that list..
Jameel Pugh will be a steal too , the guy is crazy athletic and defensive, hes got a 50 inch verticle. Maybe we can sign him if he comes to our training camp...
 
Bibby_Is_Clutch said:

Well at least Darko was touted as some sort of revolutionary KG sort of player -- potential to be the first true superstar type European player and all that. Nothing against Ilic because I have never seen him play, but that scouting report described a whole bunch of 7'0" skinny kids out there. Too thin, ok face up jumper with poor form, one move in the post, not enough strength, potential to be a shotblocker maybe. Certainly nothing remotely exciting there. If we scout him and think he's got potential, ok. But doesn't sound like some sort of must have talent when you only have one pick and some glaring needs.
 
Bricklayer said:
Well at least Darko was touted as some sort of revolutionary KG sort of player -- potential to be the first true superstar type European player and all that. Nothing against Ilic because I have never seen him play, but that scouting report described a whole bunch of 7'0" skinny kids out there. Too thin, ok face up jumper with poor form, one move in the post, not enough strength, potential to be a shotblocker maybe. Certainly nothing remotely exciting there. If we scout him and think he's got potential, ok. But doesn't sound like some sort of must have talent when you only have one pick and some glaring needs.

word
 
what about fransisco garcia? watching the prospect video on espn.com he might be what we are looking for. one of the things they said about him was his great defense. and a lot of mocks have him close to our pick or after we have selected.And being compared to reggie miller is not a knock either. anyone have anything to say?
 
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sauce-26 said:
what about fransisco garcia? watching the prospect video on espn.com he might be what we are looking for. one of the things they said about him was his great defense. and a lot of mocks have him close to our pick or after we have selected.And being compared to reggie miller is not a knock either. anyone have anything to say?

Trajan Langdon.

We have enough limited shooters, and there have been some serious questions raised about Garcia's ability to compete against NBA level athletes.
 
Bricklayer said:
Well at least Darko was touted as some sort of revolutionary KG sort of player -- potential to be the first true superstar type European player and all that. Nothing against Ilic because I have never seen him play, but that scouting report described a whole bunch of 7'0" skinny kids out there. Too thin, ok face up jumper with poor form, one move in the post, not enough strength, potential to be a shotblocker maybe. Certainly nothing remotely exciting there. If we scout him and think he's got potential, ok. But doesn't sound like some sort of must have talent when you only have one pick and some glaring needs.

Is Darko a bust or something? For all I've seen he just hasn't got much playing time.
 
Bricklayer said:
Trajan Langdon.

We have enough limited shooters, and there have been some serious questions raised about Garcia's ability to compete against NBA level athletes.

Doug christie didnt score all that much and he was a great player for our system.
 
sauce-26 said:
Doug christie didnt score all that much and he was a great player for our system.

That's because he could do everything else. Garcia is a soft shooter (yay!). And one who has a rep for disintegrating against the better COLLEGE competition, let alone pros.
 
what about sun ming ming? if we are gonna waste a pick, lets waste it on a slow 7'8 asian dude.... he cant be any slower or useless than ostertag was last year... with the active roster now at 14 players....
 
AriesMar27 said:
what about sun ming ming? if we are gonna waste a pick, lets waste it on a slow 7'8 asian dude.... he cant be any slower or useless than ostertag was last year... with the active roster now at 14 players....

Again...if we had a second round pick maybe. But with your only pick in the draft, and for the first time in a long time it being important we get something productive out of this one?

Now if we had #53 to go with #23, I'd say sure, why not. Openly advocate it even. Odds down there are so low take the shot at the unique freaky project.
 
Bricklayer said:
Well at least Darko was touted as some sort of revolutionary KG sort of player -- potential to be the first true superstar type European player and all that. Nothing against Ilic because I have never seen him play, but that scouting report described a whole bunch of 7'0" skinny kids out there. Too thin, ok face up jumper with poor form, one move in the post, not enough strength, potential to be a shotblocker maybe. Certainly nothing remotely exciting there. If we scout him and think he's got potential, ok. But doesn't sound like some sort of must have talent when you only have one pick and some glaring needs.

I can't make up my mind about Ilic. When I was in Serbia earlier this month, I saw him play (on TV) and I thought: Whoa! Serbian Tyson Chandler with better offence... four years from now, though. I could not understand why he stayed in the draft this year with all the post-Darko backlash against young and unproven Euro's (nothing wrong with Darko, but he didn't play so far and he got picked ahead of Wade, Bosch and Hinrich?!). Then I thought maybe the kid has some real drive and desire on him and he wants to get to NBA ASAP and develop here, and that in turn made me think that at 7'1'' and with that kind of atittude he could be a steal at #23. That's when I heard a rumour that he knows he will be drafted in the first round as he has had promise from Pop and the Spurs, who can wait on him 2-4 years to develop.

Still don't know what to think about drafting him in the first round, since he will need time to develop, but he will develop into a Chandler-like monster and if he can hit that ugly jumper in NBA, he'll be great.

And I promised myself to stay away from kingfans.com in the TDOS. Oh, well....
 
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