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It's extra painful, again

For the second game in a row, the Kings give up a last-second tying shot and lose in overtime.

By Sam Amick - Bee Staff Writer

http://www.sacbee.com/351/story/104304.html
Last Updated 12:33 am PST Sunday, January 7, 2007
Story appeared in SPORTS section, Page C3

The compliments and words of encouragement came from every corner of the locker room.

Corliss Williamson talked about how his turnover and foul with 1:40 left in regulation hurt the Kings as much as anything. John Salmons lauded Kevin Martin for wanting the ball in a clutch sequence, even if the guard did miss two of his final four free-throw attempts in the Kings' 110-105 overtime loss to Portland. Mike Bibby made a point to say he wasn't upset with Martin, who couldn't say the same about himself.

Martin was the last player to leave the locker room Saturday night, sitting alone with his thoughts as coaches and players filed out. The only thing longer than his outstretched legs was the look on his face, one of confusion after he missed two of his four free throws in the final 16 seconds of regulation that would have given the Kings their fifth win in their last seven games.

It was déjà vu of the worst kind for Martin, as he and Mike Bibby had each missed crucial free throws late in the fourth quarter of Thursday's overtime loss to the Lakers that would have secured that win.
"I guess it's my time to be on the other side of the non-hero shtick," Martin said. "It doesn't feel good. You ride on that high for so long ... "
But Martin's struggles were not exclusive, as the Kings lost despite leading 91-84 with 6:54 remaining against a team that could have served as the perfect opponent for a team with defensive issues. Portland entered ranked 29th in the league in offense, averaging 92.3 points. The Blazers had averaged just 82.6 points in the last three games. Yet through three quarters against the Kings, they had 79 points, having hit 7 of 11 three-pointers.

Portland forced overtime even while hitting just 4 of 18 fourth-quarter shots and missing 11 in a row at one point. But no basket was bigger than Brandon Roy's fadeaway at the buzzer with Salmons defending. Portland had four seconds to score after Martin had missed his free throw with five seconds remaining.

"I was in front of him, and he stepped back and created a little space," said Salmons, who was 1 for 5 shooting in 31 minutes. "With good players, that's all you need to get a good shot off. He hit a tough shot."

Roy, a rookie guard out of Washington, scored a career-high 23 points on 8-for-15 shooting, his production coming mostly against Kings stopper Ron Artest.

"What I told our team before the game was that Portland's record isn't indicative of what they are because they have had Brandon Roy out for a lot of games (due to injury)," Kings coach Eric Musselman said. "(He) is an unbelievable rookie who plays with great poise."

Shareef Abdur-Rahim and Kenny Thomas could do little to stop Portland forward Zach Randolph, either, as he did well for his own All-Star campaign with 32 points and 15 rebounds. Little-used center Maurice Taylor had more success than anyone in defending Randolph, and his six rebounds was second on the team despite playing just 13 minutes.

"We're letting teams push us around a little too much, just letting them push us and not pushing back," Bibby said. "We've got to get tough. Everybody rebound. It's all about effort on the defensive end, and I think, as a team, we're giving enough effort.

"It's getting frustrating, getting embarrassing. I hate to lose. And until the effort's there from everybody on the team, we're going to keep losing."

It was a rare night when Martin, Bibby and Artest were effective, yet the Kings needed more. Williamson provided just that in the second half, scoring eight points during a 15-0 run that spanned the third and fourth quarters and gave the Kings an 88-79 lead.
 
"We're letting teams push us around a little too much, just letting them push us and not pushing back," Bibby said. "We've got to get tough. Everybody rebound. It's all about effort on the defensive end, and I think, as a team, we're giving enough effort.

"It's getting frustrating, getting embarrassing. I hate to lose. And until the effort's there from everybody on the team, we're going to keep losing."

A little selective editing:
http://www.nba.com/kings/news/wrap_Kings_vs_Blazers_010607.html
“We need to do more,” Bibby continued. “We’re letting teams push us around a little too much. We have to get tough and have everybody rebound. It’s all about effort on the defensive end and as a team I don’t think we are giving enough effort to win games.

“I don’t care about my offensive stats, we lost the game. I hate to lose.”

Either way Mike it's the pot calling the kettle black on the defense. The effort starts with YOU, FIRST!
 
What I've seen is Bibby at least attempting to defend. He can't all of a sudden be the defensive player of the year.

This team is struggling because they have no set roles in which they can begin to get comfortable. There isn't a "second unit" per se; there isn't a bit of cohesiveness or unity.

Until/unless they get that, nothing is going to get better. And the ONLY way they can get that is from the coach...and it's not gonna come from stats.
 
It seems that especially during crunch time the team is playing the game not to lose instead of to win. The team seem rattled and have no cohesion at the end of the fourth. I do not think this deals with effort.
 
Bibby was getting hit and bruised, I doubt you can say, PLAY SOME LOCKDOWN EFFORT DEFENSE BIBBY, and he'll do it.. Atleast hes not offensively retarded
 
What I've seen is Bibby at least attempting to defend. He can't all of a sudden be the defensive player of the year.

This team is struggling because they have no set roles in which they can begin to get comfortable. There isn't a "second unit" per se; there isn't a bit of cohesiveness or unity.

Until/unless they get that, nothing is going to get better. And the ONLY way they can get that is from the coach...and it's not gonna come from stats.

I trust if that is the case about Mike(since I do not get to watch the games as much). Just hard hearing him talking about defense given his reputation.
 
Guard defense is overrated. A great defensive frontcourt can make any guard look great, and a bad one can make any guard look awful.
 
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In any case, guard defense in the nba is harder with the no touching rule (freedom of movement). Defenders have to give offenders the initiative and react accordingly. Defenders cannot limit an option. Ever since that rule has been instated Nash has been unstoppable running circles in the key, Parker has been slashing with ease, Wade has been a free throw machine, and Kobe dropped 81 with perimeter offense.
 
Atleast hes not offensively retarded

Hey, don't knock the offensively retarded. Shaun Livingston, Tyson Chandler, Ben Wallace or Jeff Foster would be a huge boon for our team right now, and even someone like Eric Snow would be getting good minutes off the bench.

Some of us want to blame Petrie for the roster, and others want to blame Muss for the plays and rotation. While there is truth to both perspectives, I also have to give the Maloofs some credit for the current mess. They had Petrie build a purely offensive team for Adelman, then expected that hiring Muss would somehow fix the lack of defence. Instead, it has left us with a couple of defenders who are spread too thin, who are too slow to deal with a quick guard, and too small to deal with a dominant big, and the remainder of the team defend like... Bibby and Brad. It's like taking a very skilled volleyball team and telling them that, from now on, we will be wrestlers. Maybe it will work, but probably you will see a lot of volleyball players pinned to the mat.

So, to look at the positive sides for Petrie and Muss, Petrie did a good job of building a team which is well-suited to someone very unlike Muss. Muss might, with more experience, be a good coach for a team which bears little resemblance to the Kings.

Phooey on the Maloofs for creating the mismatch. A pox on Powerpoint.
 
It seems that especially during crunch time the team is playing the game not to lose instead of to win. The team seem rattled and have no cohesion at the end of the fourth. I do not think this deals with effort.

I agree. And until they can find a way to play to win, we're not gonna see many W's.

I can't even count the number of times I've stared at my TV in disbelief as the parade of ridiculous rotations begins, most often just when the group on the court is really beginning to run smoothly.

"Hey, look! It's a team! Quick, Douby! Get in there and stand in the corner. Taylor, go in there and shoot some jumpers..."

Etc. ad nauseum
 
I agree. And until they can find a way to play to win, we're not gonna see many W's.

I can't even count the number of times I've stared at my TV in disbelief as the parade of ridiculous rotations begins, most often just when the group on the court is really beginning to run smoothly.

"Hey, look! It's a team! Quick, Douby! Get in there and stand in the corner. Taylor, go in there and shoot some jumpers..."

Etc. ad nauseum


What I don't get is we still have Douby on the active list. How many guards do we have as backups, Price, Cisco, Douby, Salmons. What These guards don't see much court time anyways. We need to activate Williams and just let him do his thing crashing the boards. I would rather see 2 boards in 3 minutes then one 3 pointer in 5 minutes.
 
What I've seen is Bibby at least attempting to defend. He can't all of a sudden be the defensive player of the year.

This team is struggling because they have no set roles in which they can begin to get comfortable. There isn't a "second unit" per se; there isn't a bit of cohesiveness or unity.

Until/unless they get that, nothing is going to get better. And the ONLY way they can get that is from the coach...and it's not gonna come from stats.

Right On!!!
 
Good teams, with a small lead in the fourth, protect the lead by trying to score, being agressive (that draws fouls to shoot as well). The Kings the last two games seemed to be playing (as indicated above) not to lose, to try to run slow down half court sets. Not their style. And I also agree with VF that until there is more of a "set" or known plan at the end, this can continue.

In the Coach's defense, the players are not helping to see who should be the "rotation". Douby is being given more time for scoring help. Brad in and out with flu both games didn't help. Mo came in and showed some suprising hustle, rebounding and assists. That was different. KT up and down as is SAR. And so it goes. No consistency from most to help coach set a rotation.
 
What I don't get is we still have Douby on the active list. How many guards do we have as backups, Price, Cisco, Douby, Salmons. What These guards don't see much court time anyways. We need to activate Williams and just let him do his thing crashing the boards. I would rather see 2 boards in 3 minutes then one 3 pointer in 5 minutes.

I agree that we need to designate one guy that just isn't going to play. If you are going to give one guy playing time, STICK WITH IT. Give him significant playing time. Don't send him in there for four minutes, and when he misses a shot pull him back out and not play him for another two games. Phil Jackson has this amazing ability to shape roleplayers. Brian Cook, Luke Walton, Sasha Vujacic are all guys who have been GIVEN playing time in order to better themselves and their confidence. They didn't necessarily earn it originally. They had to keep it but only after they had made mistakes. There were times when my family will be screaming what the hell take Luke out!!!! But he leaves them in. Muss will send Douby in for a few minutes here and there. Send Price in for a minute or two. Send Garcia in for a minute or two. You will NEVER be good in the NBA if everytime you get in the game you are afraid this next play could be your last for the next couple of games. Many even say pretty much any NBA player if given time can perform well. There is NO SENSE in dividing up minutes between all the guards. Pick one or two guys and stick with them.

Ever notice how when Cisco gets in the game he seems... scared? Immediately jacking up shots and running all over the floor trying to do something? Well wouldn't you do the same thing if you thought in about two minutes you were going to be off the court for the next game or so? Or that if you proved ineffective in those couple of minutes those minutes would then be divied out to somebody else? Stick with someone. Stick with a lineup. Let them play together. Let them pass together. Let them rebound together. Let them defend together. Give Douby 8-10 minutes a game, or if not Douby then Cisco, or if not Cisco then Price. And don't send Douby, Cisco, and Price in all at once. Put Douby in with the starting lineup and see how he does. (I don't mean starting I mean taking out Martin or Bibby but leaving in the rest of the starters) Williams is another guy. A big mans effectiveness can not be gauged unless he is given ample time to do so. Especially a shotblocking/rebounder. TIME will set any NBA player free. It will make the team better, the lineups better, the attitude better and most importantly the chemistry better.
 
Well if the Kings want to know WHY they are getting pusshed arround one thing to look at is SIZE. If putting Mo Taylor is helping your offense it speaks VOLUMES about what the offense was like BEFORE he came in. He did not bing shooting skills, he brought rebounding, and the ablity o fill the paing... in other words SIZE.

Im not saying we HAVE to start Mo when Brad is out, or that ANY big man is better than the small line up we keep seeing. I will say ALMOST any big including Mo is better than Hobbi ball if you are getting beatne up by a bunch of semi-skilled near thugs. Also while Muss is playing with line ups like a 12 year old with a new chemestry set why NOT try starting Mo if Bard is unavailable?
 
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