BEE:Bibby needs a breather

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Bibby needs a breather, but Kings' offense could suffer



By Martin McNeal -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Thursday, March 17, 2005

Kings coach Rick Adelman knows playing Mike Bibby 43 minutes per game isn't the way to go, even though that might be the best way he sees to win.



Adelman says it's up to him to find more rest for Bibby, the only healthy pure point guard on the Kings' roster and their best clutch player.

Not only does Adelman risk fatiguing Bibby down the stretch, but increased minutes lead to a higher chance of injury.

And the earliest injured guard Bobby Jackson will return from wrist surgery is the final week of the regular season, if then.

"I have to do it," Adelman said of resting Bibby, "I really do. Maybe it's getting him out the last couple of minutes of the first quarter and then into the first couple of minutes of the second quarter when you get that first timeout to get him a really nice blow. I've just got trust in these guys.



"But the onus is trying to win games now, and sometimes it's hard to pull the trigger."

The guys to whom Adelman referred are Eddie House and rookie Kevin Martin, whom the coach says could see more playing time behind Bibby.

The Kings (40-25) meet the Golden State Warriors (20-44) tonight at The Arena in Oakland in what is the first of three games in four nights.

House says he's ready for more playing time.

"Yeah, I'd love to get some more playing time, but that's the coach's decision," said House, who is Bibby's brother-in-law.

Bibby has played no fewer than 41 minutes in each of the past five games and had a huge role in the Kings' 4-1 record. Bibby shot 40 of 92 (43.5 percent) overall and 8 of 25 (32 percent) from three-point range during that stretch.

During a seven-game stretch from Dec. 31 through Jan. 11, Bibby played at least 40 minutes per game. Four times, Bibby, then playing with Chris Webber and Brad Miller, shot at least 46.7 percent from the field.

The Kings are working with a different roster configuration now, and it's one in a learning mode. Adelman said part of Wednesday's practice (yes, including a rare scrimmage) was spent working on how to keep the Kings' offense flowing without Bibby on the court.

Adelman said he gave Bibby, whose left leg was sore, the day off from scrimmaging.

"What we've got to try to do is say, 'OK, he's out of the game, and this is what we're going to run,' " Adelman said, "and that's what we tried to do (Wednesday).

"I think what happens a lot is we just don't move the ball. We played different combinations (during practice). But I don't see any reason why we can't (play without Bibby). I have to be a little bit more aware of my substitutions and when he goes out, who do you want on the floor?"

Adelman said he can use Darius Songaila and Kenny Thomas to handle the ball at the high post when Bibby is out of the game, but that takes a little work.

"Once you get to practice it and look at it," Adelman said, "it's easier for those guys to incorporate it into the game."

The coach knows teams have recognized the Kings' difficulties minus Bibby on the court. Some opponents unveil full-court pressure as soon as he sits.

"But I don't think that really should be a problem," Adelman said. "We have big guys who are good enough that you can pass ahead and cut off them and get the ball. I think what's happening is we're bringing the ball up court and we're dribbling too much."

Bibby said Wednesday he believes he will be fine, as long as he can rest between games.

"I guess we'll see," he said when asked if he could play 43 minutes per game. Adelman can make it so Bibby doesn't have to find out.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/12576054p-13430742c.html

I think it's very smart thinking for Adelman to figure out what he would do if Bibby was unavailable. We need to give Bibby some minutes of rest per game but not lose games because of it.
 
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I guess that mean he's cleared to play tonight? I also have to say how proud I've been of the way Bibby has stepped up and grabbed the role of team leader....somebody had to or we would have totally fallen apart after DC and Cwebb left.
 
go bibby... hopefully house can do it... but he cant with mobley in the game... he dribbles too much.... and doesnt pass at all.... maybe with evans or martin in the game.
 
tough situation . . . . . . .

without Bibby the Kings would have a hard time putting 60 pts on the board. Offense really gets stagnent when hes on the bench. Mo isnt much of a ball handler, and CAt doesnt pass much, so it puts a ton of pressure on House and he is clearly a tweener, not really a point gaurd who can run the offense
 
The Kings have a nice break after the Laker game on the 10th of April. So, hopefully he can gut it out.
 
EmKingsFan4 said:
"I have to do it," Adelman said of resting Bibby, "I really do. Maybe it's getting him out the last couple of minutes of the first quarter and then into the first couple of minutes of the second quarter when you get that first timeout to get him a really nice blow. I've just got trust in these guys. .

that sounds like a good idea to me to start out with.

the team might struggle with bibby on the bench, for 12-15 minutes a game, but they would struggle MUCH more if he were on the sidelines for an extended period of time. i'd rather lose a game then bibby for any amount of time.
 
I think the idea of trying to run a little high post stuff with Kenny and Darius is good -- that is/was the offense, and even though those guys aren't going to be throwing wraparound passes to guys in stride for backdoor layups, they can make the simpler passes and the offense itself can get decent shots against weaker defensive teams. I doubt many easy shots, but at least decent non-forced jumpers if nothing else. Would not want to try that against San Antonio, but might be able to buy a few minutes just having "the offense" run the offense, rather than trying to have one of our weaker passers actually replace Bibby's passing from the point.
 
we can try Peja at the point. Peja crossess over Davis and takes off from the free throw line landing 2 inches past the free throw line and dunking the ball straight into the floor.
 
Im liking the fact that they actually held a scrimmage minus Mike so they can figure out exactly how to keep the offense flowing without him...its obviously been the main reason RA has played Mike so many minutes...but im glad to hear him say "i don't see any reason why we can't play with Bibby"
 
If Bibby keeps playing so many minutes Dr. Evil's gonna get miffed! :)

Seriously, I hope Mike doesn't wear or breakdown before the playoffs.
 
i guess all i can say is we will have to see how they do tonight with bibby not playing as much as he usually does. i think house can take on this role, but i wouldnt be honest if i wasnt saying that im kindda nervous for this game....
 
house could play more than the 5 minutes adelman gives him. maybe 10-15 minutes for house would be nice. Evans can come off the bench take mobley's spot and move mobley to PG and take bibby out for another 5 minutes. thats a good 15-20 minutes of rest a game. i guess it all depends on the circumstances.
 
mobley dribbles too much and doesnt look to pass.... if you take bibby out and put house in you will have to take mobley out for a couple of minutes too because he wont pass the ball.....
 
AriesMar27 said:
mobley dribbles too much and doesnt look to pass.... if you take bibby out and put house in you will have to take mobley out for a couple of minutes too because he wont pass the ball.....

lol thats really funny!! he's gotten better at passing ever since webber left. they kind of had a two man thing going on there for little bit but ever since he's been traded mobley has gotten better. but i do see where your coming from.
 
We do need Bobby, but honestly Bibby is in no greater risk this year than last, and it's not like we see articles concerned about other young palyers getting too much pt on other teams, (Kobe, Wade, Iverson, KG...)
 
HndsmCelt said:
We do need Bobby, but honestly Bibby is in no greater risk this year than last, and it's not like we see articles concerned about other young palyers getting too much pt on other teams, (Kobe, Wade, Iverson, KG...)

this is true, but, where other teams could conceivably maintain a competitve level without those guys, the kings couldnt do it the rest of the reg. season without mike. our new guys are still adjusting, and we've got two key pieces injured and in street clothes. who else would ya trust to run the offense for 40 minutes or so a game? geeeez...that would be a nightmare.
 
Padrino said:
this is true, but, where other teams could conceivably maintain a competitve level without those guys, the kings couldnt do it the rest of the reg. season without mike. our new guys are still adjusting, and we've got two key pieces injured and in street clothes. who else would ya trust to run the offense for 40 minutes or so a game? geeeez...that would be a nightmare.
I will respectfully disagree each of those teams is as dependent on the palyers mentioned as the Kings are Bibby. I could well have included Nash, Duncan, and Allen in the list as well.
 
Padrino said:
this is true, but, where other teams could conceivably maintain a competitve level without those guys, the kings couldnt do it the rest of the reg. season without mike. our new guys are still adjusting, and we've got two key pieces injured and in street clothes. who else would ya trust to run the offense for 40 minutes or so a game? geeeez...that would be a nightmare.

To be honest, it wouldn't be a new nightmare. It would just be an extension of the one I've been having since January.

;)
 
VF21 said:
To be honest, it wouldn't be a new nightmare. It would just be an extension of the one I've been having since January.

;)
oNly since January... been having the injured Key palyer nightmareshere since 200?
 
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