Beat the LA Lakers or higher draft position ?

[pdxKingsFan]

I really don't see the Warriors winning tonight, isn't Portland playing to avoid Dallas in the first round?

 

[Bricklayer]

Given the size of the rosters and the effect that any one player can have I think each league has it about right. One thing that might be interesting for the NBA to consider would be taking a snapshot of the standings at 60 games for lottery placement, at least then you'd have eliminated teams giving their all in the final month and a half.

That's actually a clever idea -- you should send it in -- although I could see some games be played there (wander along, then suddenly kick it into gear down the stretch to make the playoffs).

 

[jalfa]

I really don't see the Warriors winning tonight, isn't Portland playing to avoid Dallas in the first round?

Well, the season series is in favour of Portland. They've only lost the last game between the two, if anything, they should be trying to avoid the Jazz. Not that it really matters, though, since without Roy, it's really rather immaterial who they'll be playing.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

That's actually a clever idea -- you should send it in -- although I could see some games be played there (wander along, then suddenly kick it into gear down the stretch to make the playoffs).

It would depend on how it was implemented - I'm thinking the lotto teams would still be the teams outside the playoffs on the final day. I can't see bubble teams tanking just to move from a 14 to a 12, just in case. As for sending it in, if you're serious, to who exactly?

 

[Rookie]

That's actually a clever idea -- you should send it in -- although I could see some games be played there (wander along, then suddenly kick it into gear down the stretch to make the playoffs).

I thought about that but they'll be risking it. If they didn't play all out in that 60 games and end 2-3 game back from the 8th seed (assuming they could of been a lot better) with 22 games left, it doesn't guaranteed them a spot. And if they do make it they be competing with a very good team in the playoff, which would be another bad idea.

A flaw that I might see is team like ourselves after 40 game realized we ain't gonna make the playoff might tank for another 20 games and then finish it off by being spoiler. (Could be a good thing. )

 

[Big Cuz 15]

first of all, are you serious? You couldn't have summed up this novel?

Also, when was the last time tanking actually work to a teams favor? It almost always backfires. Losing breeds losers. Always has, always will.




what a bunch of pompous BS this is. Get off your high horse.
Because people on here disagree with you they're automatically short sighted. Lame.

living in the moment? we win, woo hoo, we beat the lakers without kobe in a game that means nothing.. YAY! lets toast to that! time to drive around downtown with my kings flags waving! we beat the lakers!

now that we wost, it's time to look forward to bigger and better things for next year.

 

[kupman]

People say that a lot, witout ever acknowledging that the league ALREADY is the only major sports league (in North America at least) with ANY kind of deterrence to tanking. The only one who has come up with the lottery idea to try to muddle matters. All the other leagues -- NFL, MLB, NHL, they just go by straight inverse order. In other words tanking should be a MORE direct problem everywhere BUT the NBA.

The problem isn't the NBA not trying to address the issue, the problem is the unique challenges of basketball/the sport itself. Its much easier/more direct for teams in those other leagues to tank, but its less talked about. Why? Because in none of them does a single tremendous player have the impact that it does in the NBA, nowhere is it of such paramount importance, and because for all the claims that its all a crapshoot etc. etc. those truly great players in basketball are routinely identified or at least heavily suspected. And its a flat out conundrum. The league in the past has dorked around with the lottery odds, how many teams were in the lottery etc., but that's all just tweeking. And when they open things up so that the top teams are less likely to get the top players all that does is allow pretty good teams like Orlando to get those megatalents, and leaves the terrible teams out in the cold, shortcircuiting the entire process of renewal and hope that the draft represents. As bad as tanking is, its nothing compared to the effects of year after year after year of losing for terrible franchises unable to ever get the player they need to turn things around.

For these reasons, I think the league should give 1 ping pong ball to each team that is not in the playoffs. If you are the poorest team and end-up with ball #14 - well better luck next year. This will only happen once every 14 years on average anyway.

Plus, even with a very poor drawing, things can turn your way with other avenues just as Boston did a few short years ago. Remember the look on Danny's face? Remember how happy Portland was? Little did we all that day.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Well, the season series is in favour of Portland. They've only lost the last game between the two, if anything, they should be trying to avoid the Jazz. Not that it really matters, though, since without Roy, it's really rather immaterial who they'll be playing.

Yeah, it turns out the local news is running a piece on why it would be good if they lose. So let's all cross our fingers.

Also they just reported LA is out tonight.

 

[Chupacabra]

Well, the season series is in favour of Portland. They've only lost the last game between the two, if anything, they should be trying to avoid the Jazz. Not that it really matters, though, since without Roy, it's really rather immaterial who they'll be playing.

Wait, is this suggesting that Portland would rather play Utah than Dallas? If so, yeahhhhh. LA is #1A and Dallas is #1B.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

For these reasons, I think the league should give 1 ping pong ball to each team that is not in the playoffs. If you are the poorest team and end-up with ball #14 - well better luck next year. This will only happen once every 14 years on average anyway.

That's the way the lottery was originally done (at least, after the first two "envelope" years). The one-team, one-chance format lasted for 5 years, presumably because it was not particularly liked by the poorer teams in the league.

 

[jalfa]

Wait, is this suggesting that Portland would rather play Utah than Dallas? If so, yeahhhhh. LA is #1A and Dallas is #1B.

If everybody were at full strength, then yeah, I believe Portland would rather play the Mavs. In the playoffs seeding is nothing and matchups is everything, the Mavs know, better than anybody else. But like I said, with all the injuries half the teams in the playoffs have, it's pretty much a crapshoot.

 

[Rookie]

Mavs known to choke during playoff.

They could lead by 3-0 and still lose. Or have the best record and lose to the 8th seed.

Utah got a better coach so they could definitely compete.

I don't follow them but if they hadn't improved on Defense, they're gonna be the one that I would pick as an upset.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Apparently after all the tie breakers are settled Blazers play Phoenix now, may not have even mattered if they won or lost.

 

[mac]

Apparently after all the tie breakers are settled Blazers play Phoenix now, may not have even mattered if they won or lost.

They already knew that during the game. Or at least the announcers did. The game was totally meaningless to the two teams playing, but very meaningful to us

 

[pdxKingsFan]

They already knew that during the game. Or at least the announcers did. The game was totally meaningless to the two teams playing, but very meaningful to us

I think that only worked out mid-way through the game. But there were a few posts that seemed to indicate that Portland would be playing Utah now which isn't the case.