Artest to Denver For Linas Kleiza and Eduardo Najera

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But the point is if Denver has offered us a pick, I have a hard time pictureing GP not taking it. I just don't think any team is going to give us one for Artest.

Well, supposedly they have agreed in principle, and it's just a matter of haggling over whether the filler is Kleiza or not. I hope that is true, because, if so, it's the only offer being discussed which doesn't leave us with any major risks, bad contracts or other junk.

Some of the press were speculating as to whether Artest or Kidd would be traded first. Obviously they aren't as familiar as we are with the front office's slogan, "wait and see." But I remain cautiously optimistic about this one. Denver fans still think that if they make it into the second round, there should be parades and a state holiday to commemorate the event, so I think it could happen.
 
Well, supposedly they have agreed in principle, and it's just a matter of haggling over whether the filler is Kleiza or not. I hope that is true, because, if so, it's the only offer being discussed which doesn't leave us with any major risks, bad contracts or other junk.

Where did you hear this?
 
Well, supposedly they have agreed in principle, and it's just a matter of haggling over whether the filler is Kleiza or not. I hope that is true, because, if so, it's the only offer being discussed which doesn't leave us with any major risks, bad contracts or other junk.



WHERE??
 
Where did you hear this?
Yeah, no kidding, I'd love to see something on this somewhere, other than something speculative. If they have agreed in principle, Ron probably wouldnt be in the lineup tonight in Houston, you would think.

edit: I'd take Kleiza and a pick, if that's true.
 
I have been looking all day, espn, si, realgm, hoopshype.....radio.....i think fnordius is wishful thinking.....


I dont mind a eddie/Kleiza/ and a PICK.
 
I have been looking all day, espn, si, realgm, hoopshype.....radio.....i think fnordius is wishful thinking.....


I dont mind a eddie/Kleiza/ and a PICK.
I guess if there's any validity to this offer, we'll hear about something soon, I'm sure. Any deal in the works today I'm sure wouldnt get announced until tomorrow because its already 4:15pm, probably...but who knows.
 
Where did you hear this?

There have been a number of rumors in the press. Some of them I couldn't post because of weird relationships between Kingsfans and certain blogger sites, but I think this one should be okay...
Sacramento currently wants both Nene and Linas Kleiza.The most Denver wants to give up is a first round pick and Eduardo Najera.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9341-NBA-NBA_Trade_Rumors_Artest_to_Denver_-120208

So my impression is that the problem is coming from Sacramento, not Denver.
 
that link also says:

Kyle Lowry, PG, Memphis Grizzlies
Lowry could be the most fought over player in the NBA right now. Denver, Chicago, Philadelphia, Miami, New Jersey, and Golden State have all expressed interest in trading for the starting point guard. Denver is willing to use it's 2008 draft pick to pick up either Artest or Lowry, and it appears that they lead the Lowry sweepstakes.


I want lowry on kings.....but denver might have already passed on kings.
 
There have been a number of rumors in the press. Some of them I couldn't post because of weird relationships between Kingsfans and certain blogger sites, but I think this one should be okay...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9341-NBA-NBA_Trade_Rumors_Artest_to_Denver_-120208

So my impression is that the problem is coming from Sacramento, not Denver.
Well, I guess if no trades happen, we'll just let Ron walk, and get his money for next year on the cap, and hopefully trade Bibby before next season.
 
There have been a number of rumors in the press. Some of them I couldn't post because of weird relationships between Kingsfans and certain blogger sites, but I think this one should be okay...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9341-NBA-NBA_Trade_Rumors_Artest_to_Denver_-120208

So my impression is that the problem is coming from Sacramento, not Denver.


Good god...I hope we dont end up with Nene. Dude's contract is huge..Even if he ever played (which he doesnt) it aint worth it, he's not that great. Would F-up the rebuild.

I wouldnt mind an expiring and a pick for Ron. Thats better then just letting him walk.
 
Good god...I hope we dont end up with Nene....
I wouldnt mind an expiring and a pick for Ron. Thats better then just letting him walk.

Yeah. I find it disturbing that while Denver is said to be offering us a fine rebuilding package, we're supposedly turning it down because we want a "win now" refurbishing package. If true, someone isn't learning from their mistakes.

"Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results."
-- Rita Mae Brown
 
Allen Iverson, Carmelo Anthony and Ron Artest - and only one ball? That could really get interesting!

;)
 
Yeah. I find it disturbing that while Denver is said to be offering us a fine rebuilding package, we're supposedly turning it down because we want a "win now" refurbishing package. If true, someone isn't learning from their mistakes.

"Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results."
-- Rita Mae Brown

If it's Nene you're referring to, I don't think acquiring an oft-injured 25 year old big man who's still being paid on potential rather than production really qualifies as "win now" mode. It doesn't necessarily mean an end to the idea of salary cap space either. Unless we manage to trade or buy out Brad Miller, Kenny Thomas, Shareef, and Mikki Moore than we're not going to have significant cap space for three years anyway. At that point the only players we've still got signed are Kevin Martin and John Salmons so another 10 million or so on the cap isn't going to prevent us from going after any free agents with a max deal. So the real question isn't whether we're rebuilding or not, it's whether Nene would be a good acquisition or not from a talent standpoint.

Considering how hard it is to predict what you can get out of the draft, I think acquiring a young big man might not be such a bad idea for the future of the team. Looking forward, the only position with any certainty on our roster right now is starting SG. We need a lot of players and we're not going to be able to draft them all. And considering the way salaries tend to inflate from year to year, 3 or 4 years from now $10 million dollars may look like a bargain for a starting PF. Of course if you think Nene's a bust than the whole issue is moot, but that's a different issue than roster management. Financially I don't think his longterm contract is a deal breaker for the rebuild plan. And the risk involved could be canceled out by the relative difficulty of acquiring a big man in the draft. Remember Nene was drafted 7th overall. Can anyone say for sure we'll even get a pick as high as 7th in the next few years with the Eastern Conference the way it is?

It's the Linas Kleiza hang up that doesn't make sense to me. Yeah he's a decent player, but we don't have playing time for him anyway unless we trade someone else. Sure his rookie deal is low-risk, but I don't see why acquiring him should be a deal breaker from the Kings' point of view. If we can get a first round pick out of a player we're going to lose anyway, what's the holdup? Whether to acquire Nene or not is one thing, but holding out for Linas Kleiza doesn't really have any advantage for us unless Denver is more desperate than we think they are. Which could be the case, I suppose, considering all the recent trades.
 
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If Denver watched tonight's game, I have to think they may be rethinking their whole position.
 
Well, supposedly they have agreed in principle, and it's just a matter of haggling over whether the filler is Kleiza or not. I hope that is true, because, if so, it's the only offer being discussed which doesn't leave us with any major risks, bad contracts or other junk.

I read that article on ESPN too. It said the "most" Denver is willing to give is Najera and a 1st. But I don't buy it, and not just because ESPN rarely get it right. GP is a tough bargainer but he's not stupid. If Denver threw in a pick, Artest is gone.

As for GP asking for Kleiza, I don't think he wants Kleiza that badly; but someone has to be included because Najera alone doesn't match Artest's salary. Only JR Smith or Kleiza's salary works. I think Denver wants to sent us JR Smith, and GP went, "No way! Give us the other guy."
 
Allen Iverson, Carmelo Anthony and Ron Artest - and only one ball? That could really get interesting!

;)
But, think about it from this persective....AI, Carmello, Artest, Kmart and Campy - that line-up could hold teams to 50 points per game.
 
Talked to my friend yesterday (was going to post until the internet went out) but he hasn't heard anything. He works at Arco in customer relations for ticket holders, but he usually catches wind of things before they happen. He hasn't heard anything yet. Business as usual.
 
VF, you hear anything? My friend that works at Arco said something was going to go down late Monday to early Tuesday. He was loading up on some coffee before he left when he heard a couple suits talking. All the major players are in New Orleans for the weekend he said, so I am not sure if these guys are anything special or just speculating. He didn't know the two guys, but it's a big office. It was probably nothing because he walked in on them mid conversation so he probably missed a big chunk of it... Maybe they're buying a big boat, or had a huge load of laundry to pick up on mon-tues.. Who knows. I will bug the hell out of him tomorrow. No work for me :D
 
OK, so I bugged my friend today, and he had nothing new to tell me. No buzz in the office or anything. D'oh!
 
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