Anyone here know about NBA veto rights involving relocation?

[RookieOfTheDay]

He have waited 15 odd years for a reasonable plan and we are yet to see one. The fact is, you can't build an arena if you are not willing to spend money. The area has proven time and again does NOT want to spend money on an Arena. You can't build an arena unless you either get the money from someone, or you introduce some sort of taxes to fund it and that will ALWAYS fail because no one is willing to pay money for the arena to be build. How long do we exactly have to wait until a reasonable plan comes along?!

NBA tried to think outside the square to try anf get a plan that would require minimal input from the public because they know full well when ever you ask the public od Sacramento to put up some money for this, the answer is a loud NO!

That is the real problem here. How many proposals have failed before NBA got involved and what was the common issue with each of those failed proposals? NBA tried to get something done by swapping land and giving some incentives for all of those involved. The deal might have been a long shot but ANY deal that gets put forward to public of Sacramento IS a long shot because no one wants to contribute to the arena and expect it to be privatly funded. Just not going to happen. The hell would freeze over before there is a "reasonable" plan for those that keep screwing this thing over and over again.

Its easy to point the finger at the NBA because you need to have someone to blame. I would be looking at my own backyard before I start throwing pot shots at the NBA and the Maloofs. The fact is, if the NBA has a choice, they would want the Kings to stay in Sacramento because its ridicilously embarassing that Sacramento would be the only top 30 media market in the USA that would NOT have an NBA team. Hell it would be the only city that would not have a major league team full stop. Make no mistake, this is an issue that NBA would rather not have to face but they do not really have a choice.

Correct me if I'm wrong but i don't think the current ICON effort has any intention of putting anything to a vote. i'm certain they were planning on looking at options like private investors, hotel and rental car taxes, bonds, etc for financing. I do blame the NBA for the land swap deal because years were wasted on it. Years that could have been spent exploring other, more plausible plans.

 

[Uncia03]

I think there are several reasons of "why now"?

- New CBA in place in LA gives the team a better shot at attracting a free agent by luring them to the LA area instead of a Sacramento-team-that-will-be-moving-soon.

I think this is very, very important.

We all know that the Kings have not had much luck in being able to spend money in free-agency to get good players.

In fact, it's always been my feeling that the team's best chance would be to utilize their cap-space to absorb a major player's salary in a trade, rather than relying on free-agency.

But if we are looking towards free-agency to try and get a player like Nene, then I think it's critical that the team be stable. No free-agent is going to come to this team, if they don't even know where the team is going to be playing a year from now.
More important than being in the LA area, is the stability of the franchise. If the team moves this off-season, then free-agents might consider coming to this team, as there is less uncertainty regarding it's future.

 

[Uncia03]

Correct me if I'm wrong but i don't think the current ICON effort has any intention of putting anything to a vote. i'm certain they were planning on looking at options like private investors, hotel and rental car taxes, bonds, etc for financing. I do blame the NBA for the land swap deal because years were wasted on it. Years that could have been spent exploring other, more plausible plans.

The things that you're proposing that the Taylor/ICON group will be looking into seem rather obvious, don't they?

I don't think that you'll find anyone who disagrees with your assessment that the Land Swap was a long shot. With that said, don't forget that it was the City who was working with the NBA to try and put together the best proposal possible. The Land Swap was the best that they could come up with.

These things like private investors, hotel and rental car taxes, ect. have been considered in every possible combination over the last 14 years, but the fact is that they haven't been nearly sufficient to cover the funding needed to get something done.

ICON was going to sit down again and look at all the options. They would then present all of these options and say if you do X, Y, Z or A, B, C we can get the funding necessary to make something happen. And it's more than likely that some of those options would not be supported by the City Counsel for various reasons.
ICON could also come back and say, there are a lot of options, but there are not enough options which will create enough money to get something done.

Taylor said it was going to be a long shot to begin with. This is because he knew from the get-go that all of the obvious solutions weren't going to be enough to get things done, so they would have to try and find more 'creative' ways to get funding, and it's more than likely that those 'creative' means might not be palatible for the City to agree to.

You can't blame the Maloofs or the NBA for having doubts that Taylor/ICON can actually get something done, because they've seen how hard it's been in the past, and Taylor/ICON admitted that it was a long-shot to begin with.

Regardless of what happens with the Maloofs, if Sacramento wants an arena, and if they aren't going to raise taxes to fund it, some sort of creative means to finance the arena is going to have to be incorporated in order for anything to get done. And unfortunately, if there's one thing we've seen over the years, it's been the City's inability to do something creative to get something big accomplished.

 

[Section 101]

I think this is very, very important.

We all know that the Kings have not had much luck in being able to spend money in free-agency to get good players.
In fact, it's always been my feeling that the team's best chance would be to utilize their cap-space to absorb a major player's salary in a trade, rather than relying on free-agency.

But if we are looking towards free-agency to try and get a player like Nene, then I think it's critical that the team be stable. No free-agent is going to come to this team, if they don't even know where the team is going to be playing a year from now.
More important than being in the LA area, is the stability of the franchise. If the team moves this off-season, then free-agents might consider coming to this team, as there is less uncertainty regarding it's future.

Once again. Since Vlade was signed they havent been in the position (under the cap) to signed a free agent. Yes there were last year but the plan was already in place to wait a year after the CBA. Really, with the new age of the internet being in a specific city really doesnt get players much more income. The LBJ's, Wades, Melos get their money from national ads now.

Stability? There is already talk that the Anaheim move is temporary until Vegas gets an arena built. Remember the Kings would just be teneants which makes a move a whole lot easier.

 

[Trueblood]

Don't blame ICON for the failures of the past which it had nothing to do with. Stern and the NBA backing that cockamamie land swap plan is why were getting ****** now. Pretty much anyone with half a brain knew that plan would never go anywhere. They wasted three or four years on that nonsense. If Stern had backed a reasonable plan to begin with, maybe we wouldn't be losing our team now.

Actually, the land swap plan didn't come to existence until 15 months ago after KJ put together the task force.

The plan that the NBA developed was the Cal Expo plan that would've had the arena on the site of the state fair. That fell apart due to the recession but their thinking was good. Putting it on state land would allow for bonds to be used as front money for the project and eliminated the voters. Plus, unlike the land swap deal, the Cal Expo board wouldn't be seen as a hurdle but rather as an ally of sorts as they wanted the site to be redone. They were on board with it. The recession killed any chance of having a developer willing to put up the risk. We can't really blame Stern for the recession although I know a lot of people would like to.

 

[Trueblood]

Once again. Since Vlade was signed they havent been in the position (under the cap) to signed a free agent. Yes there were last year but the plan was already in place to wait a year after the CBA. Really, with the new age of the internet being in a specific city really doesnt get players much more income. The LBJ's, Wades, Melos get their money from national ads now.

Stability? There is already talk that the Anaheim move is temporary until Vegas gets an arena built. Remember the Kings would just be teneants which makes a move a whole lot easier.

Unfortunately for us, that may be another reason why they are waiting for April 15th. Vegas is supposed to be voting on whether or not to pass an arena bill this month. If it passes and the Maloofs and Samueli can't agree on a lease, they might not even stop in Anaheim. It will be straight to the Thomas and Mack while the new arena gets built.