Any news about Peja's injury?
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That's just awful.
I understand not being effective, but if he sits multiple games - he deserves the wuss of the year award.
You have to show up. Nothing can be done about a dislocated finger for the most part. Pop it back in and let's keep playing.
I know it's different, but when I played tight end - I can't tell you how many jammed or dislocated fingers I had. You just pop it in and keep going.
I understand not being effective, but if he sits multiple games - he deserves the wuss of the year award.
You have to show up. Nothing can be done about a dislocated finger for the most part. Pop it back in and let's keep playing.
I know it's different, but when I played tight end - I can't tell you how many jammed or dislocated fingers I had. You just pop it in and keep going.
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I said there is a difference, but I said I wouldn't blame him for losing effectiveness. I would blame him if his shot is off and he doesn't really contribute any other way. I would have choice words for him if he sits out because of it.
Also, I've seen WR with torn up knuckles and dislocated fingers catch the next pass. That requires a LOT more pain resistance than putting your body in front of someone.
Also, I've seen WR with torn up knuckles and dislocated fingers catch the next pass. That requires a LOT more pain resistance than putting your body in front of someone.
Oh come on. I don't usually defend Peja in these types of situations, but anyone who's seen the game last night saw that Peja was in really bad pain.
You can't compare your high-school , or whatever you're referring to injuries to NBA ones. The NBA is about 50,000x more physical than any game you've been in.
You can't compare your high-school , or whatever you're referring to injuries to NBA ones. The NBA is about 50,000x more physical than any game you've been in.
I don't know man I've jammed one of my shooting hands before and it is extremely painful. After an hour or so it feels better BUT if someone comes along and tries to slap the ball away from you and hits your jammed finger instead the pain is twice as bad. Usually I would get on Peja about this but since I've experienced the pain I'll let him sly on this one.
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Yes, it was.
He went coast to coast and Fortson went to swipe the ball. Peja got hurt again there. He came out on the next seriest.
He didn't shoot well after halftime. He was 0-4 before getting his pinky reinjured.
His rebounding didn't go up, he had a couple boards that happened to come to him ... but he didn't get in there and hustle for the rebounds.
His defense also did NOT go up. No one's did. We switched on EVERYONE and this left open players open for 3 on every defensive stand.
He went coast to coast and Fortson went to swipe the ball. Peja got hurt again there. He came out on the next seriest.
He didn't shoot well after halftime. He was 0-4 before getting his pinky reinjured.
His rebounding didn't go up, he had a couple boards that happened to come to him ... but he didn't get in there and hustle for the rebounds.
His defense also did NOT go up. No one's did. We switched on EVERYONE and this left open players open for 3 on every defensive stand.
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Peja is known to be a wuss.
First - pain is pain. It doesn't matter if it was high school or not.
Second - I played football for the University of Alabama, a top tier NCAA division 1 school, and have a ring to prove it. I also played for the Houston Texans. I am sure that I can officially say that the NBA is NOT 50,000 times more physical than any game I've been in. Thanks for trying to let me know though.
First - pain is pain. It doesn't matter if it was high school or not.
Second - I played football for the University of Alabama, a top tier NCAA division 1 school, and have a ring to prove it. I also played for the Houston Texans. I am sure that I can officially say that the NBA is NOT 50,000 times more physical than any game I've been in. Thanks for trying to let me know though.
As someone who often calls Peja on his wussiness, I would say that's just taking it too far. He came back. He played. In years past he probably would have spent a week in the hospital followed by another month of "rehab" on the beach working on his tan. But he came back this game and at least gave it a go. Problem being, that if the finger is injured that's going to effect your shot, tough guy or not. And his shot is pretty much all he's got. I've played through a lot of injuries in my time, and sorry, they effect your game. The "tough guy" part is going back out there and playing, but you're rarely going to be as effective as you would be without the boo boo.
Now I DID feel it knocked him back into passivity, and that is where the "wuss" may have reentered things. We'll see tongiht -- he certainly has a built in excuse now not to even try to compete against Bowen (not that he has any luck agaisnt him even when healthy). Be interesting to see what he does or does not bring.
Now I DID feel it knocked him back into passivity, and that is where the "wuss" may have reentered things. We'll see tongiht -- he certainly has a built in excuse now not to even try to compete against Bowen (not that he has any luck agaisnt him even when healthy). Be interesting to see what he does or does not bring.
I hate getting into any discussions with you because you obviously know much better than me and I am just making a fool of my self.
By the way as far as I remember Peja was near the 3pt line, trying to fake FDF when he swiped him acros his hand. It didn't look to me like he was driving coast to coast (that was on a play or two before he got slapped)
By the way as far as I remember Peja was near the 3pt line, trying to fake FDF when he swiped him acros his hand. It didn't look to me like he was driving coast to coast (that was on a play or two before he got slapped)
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Wait - I say the same thing as Brick and I'm Peja-bashing?
Sorry, I don't buy it.
I'm not bashing the guy. I just think when you get paid millions to do a job, you find a way to get it done. Give it 100% of what you can.
His PINKY was hurt. NOT his legs. Not his body. Not his arms. All of those things he could use perfectly. Instead he became passive.
Sorry, I don't buy it.
I'm not bashing the guy. I just think when you get paid millions to do a job, you find a way to get it done. Give it 100% of what you can.
His PINKY was hurt. NOT his legs. Not his body. Not his arms. All of those things he could use perfectly. Instead he became passive.
I have always tried to come across as a bigger person, especially when dealing with people who think they know it all. Sometimes it is just easier to let them think that. I have been around here for a while and every once in a while somebody like that comes along.
I still think you have it very wrong on the play when Fortson re injured Peja's hand.
I still think you have it very wrong on the play when Fortson re injured Peja's hand.
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I don't feel I know it all. I just state things in that manner. You just have to get to know me as a poster.
I'll admit it when I'm wrong, especially if it's been proven to me.
It's possible.
I think I remember the commentators mentioning that play as the play that injured his hand - but I could just be imagining or they could be wrong too.
Either way - the coast to coast play was dumb.
I'll admit it when I'm wrong, especially if it's been proven to me.
It's possible.
I think I remember the commentators mentioning that play as the play that injured his hand - but I could just be imagining or they could be wrong too.
Either way - the coast to coast play was dumb.
I think we can all agree that the point is that Peja WAS INJURED. To win, we need a healthy Peja on the court. I personally think if he has to sit a couple of games in order to have him 100% then so be it. Its better than risking the chance of him getting hurt even worse. Sure, a injured pinky is not the same as a broken back or something but for him to be effective he needs to be able to produce offense for the team.
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To win - we need to play offense like we did in the first quarter.
Granted, Peja's not going to go 9-10 on most nights - but getting the ball to the post and allowing Peja to get open from this is the BEST brand of basketball this team can play.
In my opinion, and I'm sorry if this conflicts with some tiem tested values around here, Reef and Peja are the best options on the team. Period. They are head and shoulders better than anyone else on the roster. Followed by Bibby, followed by Miller.
We need to find a way for both these players to take 15+ shots a game. The team needs to get the ball to the scorers where the scorer is comfortable .... and we need to do this a LOT more.
Granted, Peja's not going to go 9-10 on most nights - but getting the ball to the post and allowing Peja to get open from this is the BEST brand of basketball this team can play.
In my opinion, and I'm sorry if this conflicts with some tiem tested values around here, Reef and Peja are the best options on the team. Period. They are head and shoulders better than anyone else on the roster. Followed by Bibby, followed by Miller.
We need to find a way for both these players to take 15+ shots a game. The team needs to get the ball to the scorers where the scorer is comfortable .... and we need to do this a LOT more.
I have been as critical as Peja as anyone on this board.
Last night, he did NOT wuss out. He was obviously in pain, which has no relevance at all to whether or not some here would have been able to withstand that pain and more. He came back and he still got a couple of rebounds, he tried to move inside a couple of times, etc.
No, he wasn't on fire any longer and he really wouldn't have been on the court had we anyone on the bench who could really replace him, but Peja does NOT deserve some of the unending bashing he's getting in here.
playmaker - I think part of your problem is you assuming we have to get to know you and your style of posting. I think what some are saying is that among the established members of the board, your comments do appear as though they are bashing. It's not about comparing you to Bricklayer, whose comments are well founded and backed up by years and years of pretty lucid in-depth analysis.
Last night, he did NOT wuss out. He was obviously in pain, which has no relevance at all to whether or not some here would have been able to withstand that pain and more. He came back and he still got a couple of rebounds, he tried to move inside a couple of times, etc.
No, he wasn't on fire any longer and he really wouldn't have been on the court had we anyone on the bench who could really replace him, but Peja does NOT deserve some of the unending bashing he's getting in here.
playmaker - I think part of your problem is you assuming we have to get to know you and your style of posting. I think what some are saying is that among the established members of the board, your comments do appear as though they are bashing. It's not about comparing you to Bricklayer, whose comments are well founded and backed up by years and years of pretty lucid in-depth analysis.
For the record, here's what I had to say (in the PBP) about the injury when it happened:
http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showpost.php?p=219992&postcount=43
I don't think Peja was in the midst of a lay-up OR he would have gone to the line to shoot fouls, which you can clearly see he did not. In addition, he DIDN'T go immediately to the bench.
http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showpost.php?p=219992&postcount=43
I don't think Peja was in the midst of a lay-up OR he would have gone to the line to shoot fouls, which you can clearly see he did not. In addition, he DIDN'T go immediately to the bench.