Adelman's coaching

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VF21 said:
And yet, we continue to beat both Jerry Sloan's teams and, generally, Don Nelson's teams in the playoffs. Go figure...
We beat them in spite of Adelman not because of him. Adelman always plays to his opponents strengths. He is reactive instead of proactive like good coaches or even decent coaches.

Bill Simmons quote - "4. Rick Adelman at the end of Game 2 ... my God. Some of the worst shot selection ever. The Kings' collapse in Game 3 wasn't much better. I wrote the joke "NBA Entertainment needs to release a DVD called 'Rick Adelman's Greatest Playoff Collapses'" two years ago. Now we have enough for two full DVDs and a third DVD of extras and deleted scenes. "

On the 2002 loss against Dallas
Worst Coach in a Playoff Series: Rick Adelman

Granted he doesn't have Chris Webber, but he is being out-coached by Don Nelson!! How is this happening? Well Don Nelson does have help on the bench. He has former NBA coaches Del Harris and Paul Silas. As well as his son. This still doesn't excuse Adelman. The Kings should have swept this series... nuff' said. After destroying the Mavs in game one they completely folded in games two and four.
 
Right... because, as everyone knows, when you want expert basketball analysis, you go to Bill Simmons...

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We did not beat the Jazz and Mavericks "in spite" of Adelman. This team doesn't really do anything "in spite" of Adelman, with the possible exception of refusing to fight for rebounds or defend...
 
VF21 said:
This is getting ridiculous IMHO. ....

NBA coaching isn't brain surgery. It's more difficult. In brain surgery, you only have a certain number of factors to consider and they are usually pretty easy to recognize (as in "Oops. That artery shouldn't be spurting blood like that."). In coaching, you have the personalities and skill levels of your own players AND the opposition to consider on a nightly basis. You have to gauge how your players are feeling - both physically and emotionally. You have to do the right things to give them motivation without appearing either lackadaisical or maniacal.

Uh.... what?
 
#1sacfan said:
We beat them in spite of Adelman not because of him. Adelman always plays to his opponents strengths. He is reactive instead of proactive like good coaches or even decent coaches.
That's perhaps the dumbest comment I've ever read. Seriously ... I've read some bad ones before, but this one has got to be number one. I would love how you explain that a team won a game "in spite of coaching". Did the coach call a play and they said, "No. I think that's the wrong call, Coach. We're gonna do our own thing".
 
keflanag said:
That's perhaps the dumbest comment I've ever read. Seriously ... I've read some bad ones before, but this one has got to be number one. I would love how you explain that a team won a game "in spite of coaching". Did the coach call a play and they said, "No. I think that's the wrong call, Coach. We're gonna do our own thing".
There is nothing "dumb" about their comment. Superior play can overcome
inferior coaching.
 
ImaKingsFan said:
There is nothing "dumb" about their comment. Superior play can overcome
inferior coaching.
There is very rarely superior play that doesn't stem from superior coaching. A poorly coached team inevitably looks like it -- they are disorganized, selfish, lack cohesion, confidence and hope. Our guys have never evinced any of those things. They are prepared, well coached, and play the game with more discipline than almost any other squad in the game. That doesn't happen with the inmates running the asylum.

A coaches greatest gift to his team is providing the framework for the team to win within. We focuse entirely too much on in game decsionmaking -- 90% of games are won or lost long before you ever get that far. They are won by the team which is better prepared, better organized.
 
Better prepared, better organized AND with a better ability to stick to the game plan and not go insane for short periods of time...
 
I was speaking from personal experience, my High School team won the State championships in spite of our coach. Ray Charles could have outcoached him. We won because we had enough talent to overcome his incompetence. It is embarassing for me but my car accident and head injury are making it hard to give you specific examples right now other than my own personal experiences but there are many instances in all of professional sports where the athletes are able to overcome coaching blunders and still get the W. I was just defending sacfans statement that teams "can" win in spite of the coaching which I think most fair minded people could agree with. In defending sacfans statement I was not aiming my comments at RA's coaching, just that his statement was not the "dumbest" thing ever said, that talent can and does in some cases overcome bad coaching.
 
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