Adelman on turning Timberwolves around

[Padrino]

i don't really know where else to stick this comment, but i just wanna say that i really miss rick adelman:

Minnesota Timberwolves hope to attract some veteran talent with their new 'vibe'

"Coach Rick Adelman has stressed to Kahn and team owner Glen Taylor that the quickest way to turn around a 26-40 season is to add veteran talent."

"When you look at Kevin and Ricky, and the style we play, I think people will take a look at what we have," Adelman said. "In terms of trades, we have pieces people would like to play with. This team was pretty good not too long ago until the injuries set in."

it sure is nice to have a head coach who is not reactionary, who understands what he has in his team, and understands what his team requires to get to the next level. he doesn't panic in the face of adversity. he's just as steady as they come, and understands professional basketball as a big picture game. ****, even kahn is showing some semblance of getting it:

"Nikola Pekovic established himself as the team's center of the future, so the Wolves would need to add only a backup center, not a starter. The center position is not a major concern, although Kahn indicated the team could use more shot-blocking."

i'm gonna be one depressed kings fan if the wolves begin filling in their gaps with the same gm who passed on demarcus cousins, while the gm who did not hesitate in drafting demarcus cousins has either become too impotent to get the job done any further, or is hamstringed by payroll-slashing owners...

 

[VF21]

I gave it its own thread, Padrino...

The Timberwolves better appreciate just how much they have in Rick Adelman. Makes me wonder now if one of the reasons the Maloofs let him go was because he saw right through them. Adelman is a man of principle and I'm pretty certain his BS alarm must have been going off constantly.

 

[rainmaker]

i don't really know where else to stick this comment, but i just wanna say that i really miss rick adelman:

Minnesota Timberwolves hope to attract some veteran talent with their new 'vibe'

"Coach Rick Adelman has stressed to Kahn and team owner Glen Taylor that the quickest way to turn around a 26-40 season is to add veteran talent."

"When you look at Kevin and Ricky, and the style we play, I think people will take a look at what we have," Adelman said. "In terms of trades, we have pieces people would like to play with. This team was pretty good not too long ago until the injuries set in."

it sure is nice to have a head coach who is not reactionary, who understands what he has in his team, and understands what his team requires to get to the next level. he doesn't panic in the face of adversity. he's just as steady as they come, and understands professional basketball as a big picture game. ****, even kahn is showing some semblance of getting it:

"Nikola Pekovic established himself as the team's center of the future, so the Wolves would need to add only a backup center, not a starter. The center position is not a major concern, although Kahn indicated the team could use more shot-blocking."

i'm gonna be one depressed kings fan if the wolves begin filling in their gaps with the same gm who passed on demarcus cousins, while the gm who did not hesitate in drafting demarcus cousins has either become too impotent to get the job done any further, or is hamstringed by payroll-slashing owners...

That's depressing to read. Maloofs are not nearly our only problem. A gm who hires both Westy, and extends Smart, should be fired, on top of the Musclehead/Theus/Natt travesties. Passing on Thibs twice is also a fireable offense, unless you campaigned to the Maloofs as hard as humanly possible to hire him, and they just said no. Doubt that's what happened though. Extending Smart is also a fireable offense, unless the Maloofs completely forced that, which I also doubt.

And Smart is a problem. Smart and Petrie, if on the same page, will ruin us, with or without the Maloofs. One difference between Adelman and the idiots we have here, is if he doesn't agree with the road an organization is about to head down, or is heading down, he gets up and leaves. We have people from the FO through the coaching staff who are far too comfortable with their jobs, and mediocrity, and when I say mediocrity I'm being as kind as possible.

 

[VF21]

Okay, I'm confused. I moved this post to the NBA forum because I thought it was going to be a refreshing change of pace, a discussion of Rick Adelman and the Minnesota Timberwolves. Is it going to be YET ANOTHER discussion of Smart and Petrie?

 

[Padrino]

Okay, I'm confused. I moved this post to the NBA forum because I thought it was going to be a refreshing change of pace, a discussion of Rick Adelman and the Minnesota Timberwolves. Is it going to be YET ANOTHER discussion of Smart and Petrie?

well, to be fair, my original post does engage in both. despite the occasional flaw, i was always a fervent rick adelman supporter during his time in sacramento, and i lament seeing him bring some small measure of success to another rebuilding franchise in his first year as their head coach, while the kings bumble about in a seemingly aimless fashion...

that said, i really would like to discuss adelman and the minnesota timberwolves at length, because i find that their team has some parallel to our own in terms of the rebuild process. they are a very young team structured around a promising guard and an elite big. they're also wanting for defense, and don't have a consistent contributor at starting SF. their bench is a little thin, as well, though not nearly as anemic as the kings' bench. i'd like to track the progress of the timberwolves in conjunction with the kings' progress over the next few seasons, because i see the wolves as being on the rise, after finally bringing rubio over and aggressively pursuing rick adelman prior to the lockout. those two acquisitions were a huge coup for an unpopular gm who had had several successive strikeouts...

are the kings also on the rise? as of the end of the regular season, that answer is a resounding "NO." but an offseason, a summer league, and a training camp can change much. time will tell, to be as cliched as possible...

 

[Big Cuz 15]

i'm sure adelman may have considered returning to sac if the magoofs didn't burn that bridge.

 

[VF21]

i'm sure adelman may have considered returning to sac if the magoofs didn't burn that bridge.

I can state with total certainly that Rick Adelman would NEVER return to Sacramento as long as the Maloofs own the team. That was written out of any possible consideration the day Adelman cleaned out his desk at Arco.

 

[rainmaker]

Okay, I'm confused. I moved this post to the NBA forum because I thought it was going to be a refreshing change of pace, a discussion of Rick Adelman and the Minnesota Timberwolves. Is it going to be YET ANOTHER discussion of Smart and Petrie?

I responded to Padrino and his OP, so YES.

Plus, it was in Kings Rap when I responded, so I assumed it was Kings related.

 

[VF21]

I responded to Padrino and his OP, so YES.

Plus, it was in Kings Rap when I responded, so I assumed it was Kings related.

that said, i really would like to discuss adelman and the minnesota timberwolves at length, because i find that their team has some parallel to our own in terms of the rebuild process.

If you look at Padrino's subsequent comment, as quoted in part above, I think it's pretty clear he hopes to discuss Adelman and the Timberwolves, so perhaps the discussion of Smart and Petrie can be contained in the other 3,456 threads already devoted to that topic.

Thanks.

 

[Padrino]

If you look at Padrino's subsequent comment, as quoted in part above, I think it's pretty clear he hopes to discuss Adelman and the Timberwolves, so perhaps the discussion of Smart and Petrie can be contained in the other 3,456 threads already devoted to that topic.

Thanks.

again, to be fair, i think its difficult to talk about a team like the timberwolves without talking about a team like the kings, at kingsfans.com, at least. its why i had difficulty placing my post in any thread or forum to begin with. generally speaking, you compare winning squads alongside other winning squads to determine their chances of reaching the ultimate prize. likewise, you discuss basement dwellers alongside other basement dwellers to determine their chances of rising in the direction of the ultimate prize. i truthfully cannot help but compare minnesota to sacramento, considering they are two teams at similar junctions of their rebuilding process. however, the former seems more poised to improve in the immediate sense with the inevitability of gravity on their side (rubio's transition into a wolves jersey) and their recently aggressive pursuit of a future hall of fame head coach in rick adelman...

even more revealing is the fact that we were all laughing at david kahn less than a season ago, and now he has the ability to amnesty darko milicic (one of his well-known blunders), can attempt to lure free agents to his team with the financial backing of an ownership group committed to improvement, and has a head coach perfectly capable of tying it all together with a big, fat bow on top. the kings, however, are mired in uncertainty. it is unclear that they will exercise their right to amnesty in order to free up a roster spot for any potential free agent signings that they may or may not be able to pursue because of an ownership group that isn't fully committed to improving the team. on top of it all, that same ownership group pushed for the extension of its inexperienced head coach, who seems incapable of tying anything together without first unsettling every given that the team was already relying on. i wanted to compare the two teams because they seem to me to be a parallel case study in why some rebuild succeed where others fail. again, time will tell. a successful kings offseason would change my mind in a hurry. and perhaps minnesota strikes out the same way sacramento struck out last offseason. we just don't know. but i wanted to prod at these notions, because i find them compelling...

 

[VF21]

I agree with what you've said. All I'm pointing out is that it appeared you wanted to bring a different - and welcome - slant to the topic, one that wasn't being beaten to death in a myriad of other threads. Basically, at this point, I've had my say. You guys are, as always, free to take the discussion in whatever direction you choose. To be honest, I was just intrigued with the different tack.

Peace.

 

[rainmaker]

If you look at Padrino's subsequent comment, as quoted in part above, I think it's pretty clear he hopes to discuss Adelman and the Timberwolves, so perhaps the discussion of Smart and Petrie can be contained in the other 3,456 threads already devoted to that topic.

Thanks.

it sure is nice to have a head coach who is not reactionary, who understands what he has in his team, and understands what his team requires to get to the next level. he doesn't panic in the face of adversity. he's just as steady as they come, and understands professional basketball as a big picture game. ****, even kahn is showing some semblance of getting it:

i'm gonna be one depressed kings fan if the wolves begin filling in their gaps with the same gm who passed on demarcus cousins, while the gm who did not hesitate in drafting demarcus cousins has either become too impotent to get the job done any further, or is hamstringed by payroll-slashing owners...

Uh, those are two clear references to our situation.

and he started his reply to you with:

well, to be fair, my original post does engage in both

I replied to his post in Kings Rap. Not my fault you then moved another thread, and then say the premise of my response shouldn't be here. No need to go around attempting to censor opinions you don't wish to hear. If anything, it looks like you took his post, bringing up both Minn/Adelman, acknowledging comparisons between the coaches/franchises, and turned it into a Minn/Adelman thread only, and want to censor opinion on comparisons between both franchises/coaches, while I'm typing my response to him and have zero forewarning that this was strictly a Minn/Adelman thread.

Then this:

Is it going to be YET ANOTHER discussion of Smart and Petrie?

First, that kind of shows your opinion on Smart/Petrie threads, and why you probably don't want more discussion on it, even though in Kings Rap I don't see a single thread on the first page dedicated to that conversation. And two, as I said when I replied to Padrino it was in Kings Rap. While typing, you moved the thread. When I hit post, it's over here, and then I see the above post directed at me. So while I'm typing a reply in Kings Rap, I should know you're turning his post into a thread, moved it here, and decided Smart/Petrie discussion isn't allowed? Why are you confused? How was I supposed to know any of that mid-reply?

Cheers.

 

[VF21]

Whatever. I've said all I have to say. I'm sorry you feel obliged to continue to beat the dead horse. I've explained why I did what I did. As I pointed out above, you guys can make this another repetitive thread about Smart and Petrie. It was intriguing to me to think about having a discussion that paralleled the Timberwolves and the Kings, instead of regurgitating the same old stuff that, whether true or false, has already IMHO pretty much been done to death.

I'm out. Do what you like.

 

[Kingster]

again, to be fair, i think its difficult to talk about a team like the timberwolves without talking about a team like the kings, at kingsfans.com, at least. its why i had difficulty placing my post in any thread or forum to begin with. generally speaking, you compare winning squads alongside other winning squads to determine their chances of reaching the ultimate prize. likewise, you discuss basement dwellers alongside other basement dwellers to determine their chances of rising in the direction of the ultimate prize. i truthfully cannot help but compare minnesota to sacramento, considering they are two teams at similar junctions of their rebuilding process. however, the former seems more poised to improve in the immediate sense with the inevitability of gravity on their side (rubio's transition into a wolves jersey) and their recently aggressive pursuit of a future hall of fame head coach in rick adelman...

even more revealing is the fact that we were all laughing at david kahn less than a season ago, and now he has the ability to amnesty darko milicic (one of his well-known blunders), can attempt to lure free agents to his team with the financial backing of an ownership group committed to improvement, and has a head coach perfectly capable of tying it all together with a big, fat bow on top. the kings, however, are mired in uncertainty. it is unclear that they will exercise their right to amnesty in order to free up a roster spot for any potential free agent signings that they may or may not be able to pursue because of an ownership group that isn't fully committed to improving the team. on top of it all, that same ownership group pushed for the extension of its inexperienced head coach, who seems incapable of tying anything together without first unsettling every given that the team was already relying on. i wanted to compare the two teams because they seem to me to be a parallel case study in why some rebuild succeed where others fail. again, time will tell. a successful kings offseason would change my mind in a hurry. and perhaps minnesota strikes out the same way sacramento struck out last offseason. we just don't know. but i wanted to prod at these notions, because i find them compelling...

This is the most interesting point of all to me. Wasn't it just yesterday that C-Webb and numerous others were blasting Kahn like nobody's business? The worm sure does turn, doesn't it? Definitely makes you question the conventional wisdom - on anything.