Adelman - Bench Problems ???

[Folsom Al]

In reading thru some of the posts, I felt a burning desire to start a new thread.

I like our problems. Our bench has seen more playing time the last 3-games due to injuries.

We haven't even seen Bradley play !!!

Our team is just like back in the Pre-Season ... with the addition of Mobley, Barnes, Bradley and House ... and our two new phenoms (Evans & Martin) ... add G-Tag to the mix and Songaila (after he comes back from chasing that popcorn vendor imposter dude) ... sent DC off to Orlando ... Adelman and Staff, probably have an overall idea what our King's potential is ... but, they've gotta put it out there on the floor. Now add, Bibby is not 100% and we cannot count on B-Jax any time soon. C-Webb needs to rest his knee from time-to-time (gotta accept this one) ... and G-Tag doesn't have a FULL SMILE !!!

That's alot of UNKNOWNS to deal with and expect to continue playing at a high-level.

This is where Coach Adelman excels ... we all question his decision-making as the season progresses and it's tuff to "trust and believe" - at times ... but, as frustrating as it gets ... I believe his goal is to win as many games as we can, yet ... accept the fact that some of his "experimenting & ideas" are gonna lose some games as well. I think Adelman has gotten better with trusting his bench ... Kings bench is alot deeper then he may have thought ... he's also still a bit stubborn due to his loyalty to our starters.

Tuff place to be ... but, like in the past ... I like our problems ... I'm sure other teams wish they've got our problems.

 

[albeitrue]

Adelman DOES have an undying devotion to his starters, but now that he is one "original" starter short (and I am hoping he's not as devoted to Cat's minutes as he was to Doug's), I'd like to see the rotation mixed up a little from the bench. Having guys there who can contribute and add energy is what made King's great in the beginning! Adelman having confidence in the bench = better chance of winning games down the stretch. If memory serves, that is when we have been winning games.

How can he use the starters to solve that problem (only winning games down the stretch)?

 

[NanaKing]

Tell it like it is....Albeitrue! Hope Adelman reads the boards. Go Kings
BTW, good job, Freak!

 

[albeitrue]

YES, thank you for your social graces Proud Grannie!

Thank you Freak for the new Avatar's, as you can see I just grabbed mine and ran....

 

[piksi]

RA is not going to change. His style is to play guys who he is comfortable with as much as possible.

 

[keflanag]

(and I am hoping he's not as devoted to Cat's minutes as he was to Doug's)

So, in what way was Adelman devoted to Doug's minutes? Adelman plays guys who perform. This year Doug's minutes had dropped significantly. If Cutino steps up and performs well, I'm sure his minutes will be up from what Doug's were. If he doesn't, he'll be sharing his mins. with Mo and Kevin.

 

[Folsom Al]

The Real Questions are ...

RA is not going to change. His style is to play guys who he is comfortable with as much as possible.

#1 - Will our King's ever be 100% for a substantial stretch of games ??? No, C-Webb's knee rehab process is a clear indication of needed bench starts/play.

#2 - Adelman admits being loyal to his starters and he also admits to going to the bench to change things up. Is this done out of CONFIDENCE, FRUSTRATION or DISCIPLINE ??? Could be all three ...

#3 - Our starters have shown their value/worth at their position ... Adelman is NOT the type of coach who makes line-changes due to STARTING LINE-UP MIS-MATCHES. He has shown that once an opponent exploits/capitalizes on MIS-MATCHES and shows signs of pulling away/catching-up ... he's quick to counter and change his personnel on the floor. Why are some King's fans so hung-up with who starts ??? Adelman knows ... it's who's on the floor in the 4th quarter that's gonna determine the outcome.

 

[Heuge]

Adelman DOES have an undying devotion to his starters

I think he has a devotion to those who are producing. I recall a number of times where he would consistantly not play JWill a few years back. Or last year when he would not play Vlade in the 4th. Or this year, when he would pull DC during crunch time..
the only exception seems to be CWebb. It seems as though he will be in late no matter how terrible he has played. (I'm not sure I agree with that)

 

[VF21]

Okay, I confess to being confused.

The title of the thread makes it appear as though this is going to be a complaint about RA and his use of the bench OR problems on the bench itself.



Adelman has done an OUTSTANDING job of utilizing the players he's had available this year. In fact, he's gone to the bench more frequently and sooner than I've ever seen him do before.

RA is not going to change. His style is to play guys who he is comfortable with as much as possible.

That statement simply is not true. He has changed somewhat, or at least altered his philosophy in some situations. You can't expect someone to completely reverse a lifetime of coaching a certain mway. The fact he's even altered his long-time habits is a plus.

As far as playing Webber late in the game, Adelman has the utmost faith in Webber's ability to be more of an asset than a liability on the court during critical times and I agree 100%. Even if his shots aren't falling - and that seems to happen less and less - there are a myriad of other things he can do better than anyone who might come in to replace him. If you're gonna pay someone the amount of money Webber is earning to do a job that includes performances at critical times, you either allow them to do that job or find someone to replace them. At least that's my three cents...

 

[Folsom Al]

Partially True ...

Okay, I confess to being confused.

The title of the thread makes it appear as though this is going to be a complaint about RA and his use of the bench OR problems on the bench itself.

Not a complaint ... nor is it problem on the bench itself .... but, people getting hung-up with WHO STARTS and WHY IS (fill in players name here) NOT GETTING MORE PLAYING TIME ???

Other teams would KILL to have a bench like our Kings (in the process of proving their worth, but in my eyes - strong bench). People are saying Adelman has a problem with utilizing his bench and I'm on the other side ... it's not that he doesn't want to play 'em ... it's where to get the minutes. So, he's compromised like he always has ... it's who's on the court to finish the game. The one plus he has this year that he hasn't had is the athleticism on the bench and using it ... versus our not having seen this kind of play in MANY-MANY MOONS and wanting to see more of it - ALL THE TIME. Adelman gives it to us and his players in doses ... at his discretion.

 

[VF21]

Ohhhhhhh, okay. Now I see... Sorry. I guess I should have had the Starbucks delivery stop at my house.

 

[Folsom Al]

Just Got Back ...

Ohhhhhhh, okay. Now I see... Sorry. I guess I should have had the Starbucks delivery stop at my house.

Now that's a great idea ... STARBUCKS DELIVERY !!!

With the kids having the day-off from school ... went and got myself a Caramel Macchiato - Espresso and an apple-fritter ... treated the kids to WHATEVER they wanted ... place was packed.

 

[KP]

RA is not going to change. His style is to play guys who he is comfortable with as much as possible.

And thats why we will continue to play .650 ball while he is here, No matter what happens.

 

[piksi]

And thats why we will continue to play .650 ball while he is here, No matter what happens.

We passed a point where .650 is enough several years ago.
.650 will not give RA a new contract.

 

[KP]

We passed a point where .650 is enough several years ago.
.650 will not give RA a new contract.

Oh yeah I forgot you were the Gm of the Kings now Piksi...

However, I agree with your point. It's just that I think that they will do much more than just .650 and a weak playoffs this year. It's called "optimism".

 

[uolj]

It's just that I think that they will do much more than just .650 and a weak playoffs this year. It's called "optimism".

No, it's called "realism".

 

[piksi]

No, it's called "realism".

so the last 2 years were not real ?

 

[KingsFan54]

RA has seen what his bench can do. Christi being traded and Webber out one game and bibby out one game he's had to utilize his bench like never before. I think he knows now that he has some very telented players sitting on the bench and is not afraid to use them....

 

[KP]

so the last 2 years were not real ?

"Real" injury filled...

 

[albeitrue]

So, in what way was Adelman devoted to Doug's minutes? Adelman plays guys who perform. This year Doug's minutes had dropped significantly.

RA is edit: USUALLY devoted to his starters down the stretch, including times when Doug could not produce offensively late in the game and we were behind in the score. It was because of Doug's injury that his minutes were down, and THEN because of Evans' superb play when Doug was playing injured. There may not have been many available bench minutes if Doug had not become injured.

If Cutino steps up and performs well, I'm sure his minutes will be up from what Doug's were. If he doesn't, he'll be sharing his mins. with Mo and Kevin.

Frankly, I'm not sure which scenario works out best for Kings! Sure it's important to have dependable starters, but to have active bench-players who are also proven reliable through PT, even sweeter in my estimation.

 

[uolj]

so the last 2 years were not real ?

I was mostly playing around, but yes, you could make a realistic case that based on the last two years and the current state of the team the Kings will do better than .650 and a weak playoffs.

 

[piksi]

I was mostly playing around, but yes, you could make a realistic case that based on the last two years and the current state of the team the Kings will do better than .650 and a weak playoffs.

I hope You end up being right

 

[Andriod_KiNg]

I want to see more of Special K , i mean he had a career high 17 the other day and played great D , let him in and rest Mo up ...