A SAC/NY/CLE Trade that actually makes sense...

[Merdiesel]

Sacramento Kings

Incoming Players

David Lee
Salary: $990,600 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 9.5 REB: 7.9 AST: 1.0 PER: 16.97

Nate Robinson
Salary: $1,268,160 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 11.2 REB: 2.8 AST: 2.1 PER: 17.14

Stephon Marbury
Salary: $19,012,500 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.9 REB: 2.5 AST: 4.7 PER: 14.56

Outgoing Players: Quincy Douby, Mike Bibby, Ron Artest

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New York Knicks

Incoming Players

Eric Snow
Salary: $6,703,125 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 0.9 REB: 0.9 AST: 1.8 PER: 4.05

Drew Gooden
Salary: $6,453,416 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 12.1 REB: 9.0 AST: 1.0 PER: 13.39

Ron Artest
Salary: $7,400,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 19.1 REB: 6.1 AST: 4.3 PER: 17.20

Outgoing Players: David Lee, Nate Robinson, Stephon Marbury

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Cleveland Cavaliers

Incoming Players

Quincy Douby
Salary: $1,333,920 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.7 REB: 1.3 AST: 0.7 PER: 7.86

Mike Bibby
Salary: $13,500,000 Years Remaining: 2

Outgoing Players: Eric Snow, Drew Gooden

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• We get rid of the Bibby/Artest mess and bring in two young ballers in the process.

• Cleavland gets Bibby without giving up much.

• New York gets Artest, a solid rebounder in Gooden, and a veteran point guard in Snow.

the trade works on ESPN...
what do you guys think?

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Thumbs down to anything that involves bringing FSM to Sacramento.

 

[Gary]

The only way I would trade for Marbury is if there was a buyout that was to happen right when we traded for him, plus the other two teams in this deal would have to include "cash considerations" to the Kings in order to assist with this buyout.

Other than that hell no.. Marbury is a pile of trash, and that's putting it lightly.

 

[pkballr]

I would say no. Seems kind of repetitive to trade one point guard with a bad contract for another one with an equally bad contract plus an attitude. Also seems like a wash since we still have a log jam in the backcourt and our PF situation (PF#9) still exists in Sacramento. The only benefit I see is that we don't lose Ron Artest to free agency. But we seem to lose the most (or not benefit at all) while the other two teams do.

 

[Heuge]

Gosh that is horrible. No wonder Petrie doesnt do anything.

 

[OvechKiN]

i would only do that trade if KT AND SAR were shipped out

 

[DocHolliday]

i would only do that trade if KT AND SAR were shipped out

No one is taking SAR in a trade. Plus you don't have to worry about SAR. I feel that he will have to retire. His knees are shot. One surgery after the next. I don't see him coming back. He'll be slowed evern more.

 

[nbrans]

I don't think this trade is that bad for the Kings (and I don't know why people get their panties in such a bunch about Marbury -- it's just his contract we're interested in), but I'd hope for a little more. Robinson is such a limited player -- a 5'8" shooting guard -- and if we're giving up both Bibby and Artest I'd hope for either cap relief or a pick.

It also leaves the Knicks with Eric Snow as their only point guard. Something tells me they wouldn't go for that.

 

[CruzDude]

Marbury? NEVER!!! a cancer with attitude.

 

[nbrans]

Marbury? NEVER!!! a cancer with attitude.

If he's a problem, bench him or buy him out!! I don't understand this. Everyone clamored for years that we should bring in crazyman Eddie Griffin (RIP), but Stephon Marbury? Nooooooooooooo.

 

[Gary]

If he's a problem, bench him or buy him out!! I don't understand this. Everyone clamored for years that we should bring in crazyman Eddie Griffin (RIP), but Stephon Marbury? Nooooooooooooo.

It's not as easy as just "buying them out" Marbury is owed 40 mil over the next two years (or there about). He's a cancer where ever he has gone, and a jerk to boot. You think benching him would be a good move? The ONLY way I would trade for Marbury is if the otehr teams in this deal kicked in with some cash to HELP buy him out. If there was an understanding that he would be bought out upon the trade, and that he would NEVER see a Kings uni.

I never said to bring in Griffin

 

[bajaden]

If Marbury had just one year left on his contract I would consider it. But with two years. NO NO NO NO NO NO. What is the point. I love lee, but thats the only thing we would be gettin in return along with a bunch of headache's.

 

[nbrans]

It's not as easy as just "buying them out" Marbury is owed 40 mil over the next two years (or there about). He's a cancer where ever he has gone, and a jerk to boot. You think benching him would be a good move? The ONLY way I would trade for Marbury is if the otehr teams in this deal kicked in with some cash to HELP buy him out. If there was an understanding that he would be bought out upon the trade, and that he would NEVER see a Kings uni.

I never said to bring in Griffin

Look at what Portland did with Steve Francis. They just bought him out and he never stepped inside the Rose Garden. It IS just as easy as buying him out because it's free money, and in these scenarios people are proposing he's only being brought in to clear up cap space for the '10 offseason.

 

[chrisnu]

If there's a trade involving New York and Cleveland, I think it may involve Jamal Crawford going to Cleveland for shorter contracts. Donyell Marshall and Devin Brown (or Shannon Brown) would work.

 

[nbrans]

If there's a trade involving New York and Cleveland, I think it may involve Jamal Crawford going to Cleveland for shorter contracts. Donyell Marshall and Devin Brown (or Shannon Brown) would work.

Crawford has been NYK's best player this year, I think they're going to want more than just shorter contracts, particularly since they're a) not rebuilding and b) have no hope of getting under the cap in the foreseeable future, so shorter contracts have no real value.

 

[LPKingsFan]

The only problem with Marbury trades is that it doesn't make sense for us unless we send back more salary (SAR, KT). But why would the Knicks do it? They could just buy him out too...

 

[KingNation]

marbury would be worse for us than artest is. bad idea. and david lee looked like he was going to be good, but im not so sure anymore. and nate robinson is kind of a joke.

 

[VF21]

Look at what Portland did with Steve Francis. They just bought him out and he never stepped inside the Rose Garden. It IS just as easy as buying him out because it's free money, and in these scenarios people are proposing he's only being brought in to clear up cap space for the '10 offseason.

I guess I'm just dense because I simply cannot understand the "free money" concept when you're talking about $40 million. And it's not just about the salary cap. That's FORTY MILLION DOLLARS!!!!

 

[Proof21]

Yea..IMO $40 million dollars is just TOO much for a buyout. I REALLY hope the Kings don't make a move like that.

 

[Glenn]

Look at what Portland did with Steve Francis. They just bought him out and he never stepped inside the Rose Garden. It IS just as easy as buying him out because it's free money, and in these scenarios people are proposing he's only being brought in to clear up cap space for the '10 offseason.

I don't understand the comment about free money. Can you clarify that? And, buying a guy out doesn't clear cap space. We still have to apply $20 mil for the two years Marbury is ours whether he sits on the bench or is bought out.

 

[Bricklayer]

The $40 million for Marbury is ALREADY spent.

That's the key concept.

That money is leaving the Maloofs' pocket whether it goes to Marbury in a buyout, or a stack of worthless PFs to clutter our bench, or Ron and Mike to reup and come back. There is no EXTRA expense -- in fact often in these things you can get a "small" discount of some millions of dollars. So, with the money already spent, giving it to Marbury up front to go away is no worse financially for us than giving it to Kenny, Reef etc. to eat up roster spots, and if in the process we are able to make tactical maneuvers to get a chunk of caproom earlier, we are clear winners.

Now with that said, I am not a fan of this particular deal -- I like the idea of buying out Marbury as a way of liquidating our contracts which are actually longer than his (Kenny, Reef, Brad, Mikki, Salmons), not just in an even swap for Mike and Ron's contracts that run out the same time or even earlier.